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The Odyssey of Homer: Speak, Memory (Lecture on Books I-VIII)

'Speak, Memory — of the cunning hero, the wanderer, blown off course time and again after he plundered Troy's sacred heights.'

Welcome back to the world of Ancient Greece. Let us gather around the singer of tales and listen to the old story told anew: the story of the homecoming of Odysseus.

Today, as we journey through the first eight books of Homer's Odyssey, we're discussing the epic's overture, fathers and sons, the oral-formulaic tradition, vibrant characterisation, nostos, how story heals us, and much more.

Please do feel free to enjoy the discussion even if you haven't read these parts of Homer's Odyssey yet. You can enjoy our talk before, during, or after your reading in the way that best suits you.

Timestamps:

0:00 returning home with Odysseus

2:00 ‘speak, memory, of the cunning hero’

4:00 beginning with an appeal to the muse

6:00 appreciating the opening of the epic

8:00 modern preference for the Odyssey

10:00 why you should chant Homer aloud

11:00 why does the poem begin this way?

13:00 the reason we love hearing old stories

14:00 great literature is endlessly rereadable

16:00 the power of living vicariously 

18:00 what does returning home mean?

20:00 Homer of the Iliad vs the Odyssey

21:00 appreciating the Telemachia together

22:00 tragedy in Agamemnon’s nostos

24:00 the temporality of the Odyssey

25:00 what has happened to our hero?

26:00 the arrogant suitors in Ithaca

27:00 on the theme of fathers & sons

28:00 becoming a man without a father

29:00 on the trajectory of growing up

30:00 when we become our own parents

31:00 Athena guides & protects Telemachus

33:00 the transition from youth to manhood

35:00 Homer’s extraordinary metafiction

37:00 Telemachus rails against the suitors 

38:00 call to adventure on the hero’s journey

39:00 the day-night rhythm of the Odyssey

40:00 stock phrase of Dawn’s rose fingers

41:00 the colour palette of Ancient Greece

43:00 untranslatable oral-formulaic tradition

44:00 Telemachus calls the council of elders

46:00 Ancient Greek concept of aidos/shame

48:00 how Penelope outwitted the suitors

50:00 Zeus sends the omen of two eagles

52:00 recklessness, devouring & pride

54:00 being the child of your parents

55:00 what is the meaning of prayer?

57:00 Eurycleia tries to protect Telemachus

58:00 maternal vs paternal archetypes

1:00:00 the restraining concern of loved ones

1:01:00 you leave the shire to save the shire

1:02:00 first reaction to the Telemachia

1:04:00 one’s first journey away from home

1:05:00 Telemachus travels to meet Nestor

1:06:00 self-consciousness of the Odyssey

1:07:00 what happened after the fall of Troy?

1:08:00 my experience travelling from home

1:09:00 meeting Menelaus & Helen in Sparta

1:11:00 telling tales of our hero’s cunning

1:12:00 how stories ease our pain & grief

1:13:00 hard times become fond memories

1:15:00 discovering the miracle of escapism

1:16:00 capturing Proteus/Old Man of the Sea

1:18:00 meaning of searching for your father

1:19:00 Penelope prays to goddess Athena

1:20:00 finally getting to the hero Odysseus

1:21:00 learning to read dream symbolism

1:22:00 Odysseus in the cave of Calypso

1:24:00 the purity of the Homeric pastoral

1:26:00 Odysseus weeping at the shore

1:27:00 Calypso as both saviour & captor

1:29:00 the danger of remaining in stasis

1:30:00 endless pleasure is actually pain

1:31:00 one needs pain in order to prosper

1:32:00 how Odysseus can inspire us all

1:33:00 our hero leaves the island of Ogygia

1:34:00 Poseidon kicks up an awful storm

1:36:00 welcome to the land of the Phaeacians 

1:38:00 meeting the character of Nausicaa 

1:39:00 heroes must be put to the test

1:40:00 was this epic writer a young woman?

1:42:00 divine guides in unlikely forms

1:43:00 how art preserves the ephemeral

1:44:00 an ancient depiction of utopia

1:45:00 stories as ever-expanding circles

1:46:00 King Alcinous & Queen Arete

1:48:00 Demodocus the singer of the tales

1:49:00 Odysseus performs at the games

1:50:00 singing the fate of the Greeks

1:51:00 Odysseus prepares to tell his tale

1:52:00 assignment for our next discussion

1:52:00 your thoughts on the Odyssey?

Resources to Explore:

Reading Assignment:

Our next discussion will cover books nine to sixteen of this sublime epic masterpiece. And we will be discussing this next leg of the journey this coming weekend.

Now we're going to discover everything Odysseus suffered during his struggle to return home. So continue bringing yourself to Homer's epic, making notes on any themes or ideas that capture your attention and imagination.

Questions to Consider:

1) Which character resonates the most with you?

2) What does returning home mean to you?

3) What kind of person do you think Homer was?

4) What was the most significant journey of your life? Who did you become, or realise you were, along the way?

And please do share with us your impressions, favourite passages, and striking ideas from the opening of Homer's Odyssey. If this is your first reading, does the epic meet your expectations? If this is a reread, is the experience any different this time around?

Happy reading, everybody!

The Odyssey of Homer: Speak, Memory (Lecture on Books I-VIII)

Comments

I believe the consensus is that the oral poets of the time told the full epic saga which tells from the age of gods to the age of heroes and their deaths, including Troy and what happened before and after. So it is possible Homer had a poem for what happened in between but it’s not survived. I think it’s mentioned in one of the lectures as these other epics that didn’t survive have names and I believe are referenced in other works and were generally known to be written by other poets and play writes. I think the tale’s plots were known by the audience at the time and the art came from the poets version of the tale and the spin they put on it. So to the get the most enjoyment it might be worth learning the major plot points, however the good thing about oral poetry is that it is so repetitive and Odysseus and the characters will several times throughout the narrative fill these gaps in for you and give reminders and cues for the uninitiated. The Odyssey has a bit of a Pulp Fiction style ordering to keep things punchy.

Craig Mckissick

I just read the first chapter and there seems to be a gap. We last left the Iliad with the burial and the scene skips to Odysseus stuck on an island because Calypso has a crush on him. What happened in between. Was Troy burnt to the ground. Was Hectors father killed and the women taken as slaves and how many soldier were survived and were able to sail home. I have so many questions. It seems like a movie with a cliffhanger that never gets answered. Was there another book between the Iliad and the odyssey? Im using the Lombardo edition again because I don’t have to struggle to understand both the text and what’s going on. For now, he s my go to author for ancient translations. I even got a copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh by him.

Cynthia Ford

I think we could use some new punctuation in discussing all these great books. Emojis are so yesterday and puerile. Punctuation is literary. https://knowadays.com/blog/11-uncommon-punctuation-marks-and-how-to-use-them/

Tatiana

I've read contemplated this exact part of this poem you quoted plus plus on to it's end at the beginning of every decade of my life since I turned 40. At 40, I thought life and adventure would start to go downhill, but it hasn't. I read, contemplated and posted on social media these parts of the poem at ages 40, 50, 60 and 70. I'm 73 now; maybe at 80 or maybe at 90 I'll start to yield and just contemplate what I've learned but I'm not ready yet! "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

Linda Axon

Thank you Benjamin! How sublime to read Tennyson's Ulysses in conjunction with The Odyssey. "Death closes all: but something ere the end, Some work of noble note, may yet be done, Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods. The lights begin to twinkle from the rocks: The long day wanes: the slow moon climbs: the deep Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends, 'T is not too late to seek a newer world. Push off, and sitting well in order smite The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths Of all the western stars, until I die."

Terri Matter

Clarissa, agreed. Presently wrestling with it, ha.

Angelina

The Cavafy poem! I took a course on Cavafy and Seferis at uni, none better.

Tatiana

Ben didn’t tell us what book his grandmother was reading! If you want a book that won’t end, I recommend Clarissa 😁

Tatiana

I am getting so much out of the resource section for this reread. Ben, the links to the art and theatre are wonderful especially the example of Greek theatre with Agamemnon . Part of the greatness of The Odyssey is that it has permeated so much of what we have already read, seen and felt in our culture and this familiarity takes it to a higher level.

Jane

I am excited about this announcement too, Tatiana.

Jane

Serena: i absolutely agree! Ray Bradbury did too! I heard him discussing this once when asked something about modern film. It’s the same with so much popular music now. There are no dynamics anywhere only a steady pummeling of a highly compressed and highly processed narrow and dense sound that does not breathe at all. Whew. That touched a nerve 😅

Lily

Ben, I really like what you say about the slackening of tension in stories. I notice, for example, that many of the newer movies go forward with action or even humor to such an extent that it becomes bland because there's no build up or slackening. A good example of this are the marvel movies. It starts out with an action scene but but it's filled with action scenes thereafter so that even the grand finale is no more Grand than one of the minor scenes. To me, it makes for bad storytelling.

Serena J Cavanaugh

Yes! The words do fly on wings also in the Lombardo! I love all the mentions of dawn. Dawn is that feeling of home for me, where I feel weighed down enough to want to linger longer in bed and where pure unpolluted thoughts enter my head and I try to link the dream world with my consciousness.

Valentina

Ben, I like to think that your Nan was revisiting a well- loved book. Rereading a favorite as we do.

Serena J Cavanaugh

Just read that Pynchon is dropping a new book! We had so much fun with Gravity’s Rainbow here. He is old like Cormac McCarthy, who dropped his last duology and died.

Tatiana

This seems to be an issue with the phone app, not an issue when I login on my desktop.

Greg

Is anyone else experiencing Patreon issue, where your comment as typed is accepted but then as you view it, it is truncated in random places?

Greg


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