LOZ: Tears of the Wardrobe Feedback
Added 2023-11-24 23:36:17 +0000 UTCTears of the Wardrobe is done! It's been a fun project, I tried a lot of new stuff with this one. But now it's about time I asked you all what you thought of it. Please be honest, I'll take things constructively and try to take what I can into account for future projects!
So vote on the options you most agree with, and if you have specific feedback you'd like to offer, please leave a comment. I'd really appreciate it.
Comments
Apologies for the spoilers! I tried to wait a good while after the game's release to avoid that as much as possible, but I guess that didn't completely dodge the issue for everyone.
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 17:00:55 +0000 UTCThanks for the feedback and detailed ranking of different aspects of the comic! I'll keep this all in mind going forward!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:57:00 +0000 UTCThanks for the feedback!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:55:08 +0000 UTCThank you so much for the very detailed comment, this is a lot of really helpful feedback! I'll respond to a couple things that stuck out. First, glad you think it was evenly paced compared to Couple Stuff! Couple Stuff got a lot of criticism for its pacing at certain points, so it's an area I'm trying to improve in. Next, I'm glad you liked the chibi characters! However, I DID try to make Rauru a chibi, which clearly I didn't do a great job of XD. It's hard to make a goat-dragon-man look properly chibi, I guess. I can understand the disappointment and confusion around the story choice! It definitely makes certain things unclear, and I can see how that can take away from the story. Glad that despite all of the criticisms, this was still your favorite comic of mine to date! I hope that I can continue to improve and make better comics in the future.
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:50:25 +0000 UTCThanks for the feedback! The difference in approach is a good note to keep in mind for the future.
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:41:53 +0000 UTCThanks for the feedback! Glad I did a good job on the chins XD))))
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:40:15 +0000 UTCThanks! If by "research" you mean dumping nearly 200 hours into the game, then yeah, I researched it really well XD. Also, I've had ideas for fun non-canon what-if style stuff for my characters that I'd like to do at some point, so it's good to know there's interest in that.
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:38:56 +0000 UTCThanks for the feedback! I was aiming for something more fast-paced and sequence-like for this particular project, but I still plan on doing more fleshed out comics like you described in the future!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:35:15 +0000 UTCI appreciate the feedback! I understand that for a lot of people there comes a point in these kinds of sequences where a line is crossed. Happy to know you liked it regardless!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:33:03 +0000 UTCNice to see the perspective of someone who prefers IP over OC. Glad you liked it!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:28:23 +0000 UTCI tried to focus on covering a wide range of sizes in this one, so I'm glad I succeeded in that!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:26:52 +0000 UTCThanks for the feedback! OC stuff isn't going away, this was just a bit of a different thing I wanted to try out!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:23:36 +0000 UTCHappy to know you enjoyed it! I'm glad it was still appealing for a non-fan.
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:22:11 +0000 UTCGlad you like the art, and thanks for the feedback about the layout! I don't think certain pages would have worked in the traditional format, but I understand that you would have preferred it was different, and I acknowledge it's possible that would have been better! Also, thanks for the feedback on the IP vs OC question!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:19:37 +0000 UTCI appreciate the feedback! That was somewhat intended because I was going for more of a sequence feel with this one, but I understand that isn't to everyone's tastes and I want to take these kinds of criticisms into account!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:11:05 +0000 UTCI'm happy to know you think each panel was worthwhile!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:08:03 +0000 UTCThank you!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:06:11 +0000 UTCHappy to know you enjoyed it despite not being a fan of the franchise!
Better-with-Salt
2023-12-04 16:05:56 +0000 UTCas a zelda fan i loved this. there's not enough good art of botw/totk zelda, and especially not enough good fat art. i would love to see this comic expanded at some point!
Eel
2023-11-26 06:31:22 +0000 UTCi dont say this for many books, less so for horny novels but i would literally buy a physical copy of this, it was so good imo
Hog Horror
2023-11-26 02:03:10 +0000 UTCTotally agree. Especially when the main character of the gain in the comic already has so much fat art out in the world, it would have been nicer to just see OC's instead. Especially Salt OC's, who are God Tier.
BodyEx
2023-11-26 00:21:58 +0000 UTCAbout the question about OC's: whenever you do stories or comics with oc's it feels a lot more stylized, personal and meticulous for some reason. When it's existing characters it's like 'oh, neat, fat art of this character!' but when it's oc's it's lore, worldbuilding, characters that were never supposed to be thin in the first place with a stoey suiting their gain, fitting personalities. I just think oc projects are where your art really shines, also because I like every one of your oc's very much.
sad hammerhead
2023-11-26 00:09:42 +0000 UTCI thought the comic was enduring but it wasn’t my favorite. The middle felt lack luster and Some of the pages in the middle felt filler and a little unimaginative (ex: the part where she transforms into dragon. Maybe show the dragon body up close to See how it looks. That be cool.) still for a Zelda weight gain comic it matches in line to what you’d expect and fits the lore of the game lol
Toon Boy
2023-11-25 21:51:01 +0000 UTCThis was my favorite sequence so far, which is saying something because I would have said that about Selene's and Serena's before that. It was the right length, well paced in terms of size transitions, and ended at a nice size. I loved the secondary fattening of another character in the sequence, and that the premise of the story wasn't too crazy, even if it was a bit simplistic. That being said, if you are looking for subjects of future sequences, I'd love to see a similar length sequence and size up with some of the OCs (Maybe making it non-cannon so that the size can really go nuts).
The_Murp
2023-11-25 18:52:22 +0000 UTCLoved the comic, but from what I found is that if you want to separate from the crowd, you’ve got to strike a balance between the wg and the story, a good sequence with both is more likely to keep me engaged, so if that means not every page has fan service but has character work that is building up to it, I’ll be far more engaged
Chroma L
2023-11-25 17:31:53 +0000 UTCI loved this series a lot! Haven't played the Zelda games, but I love her various character designs. If I had any issue with this series, it's that focusing on a single character for so long wears the novelty a bit thin. The artwork is still amazing, but it's almost like you start to know what to expect, if that makes sense...? Additionally, my personal favorite parts of any story are character interactions, so larger casts help keep me glued to my seat because the focus of the story can change at any time (though Link being traditionally mute makes that understandably trickier in this scenario). There's also the fun of varying sizes and body types -- a slightly longer version of something like Tipping the Scales could be nifty, or perhaps the much-clambered-for epic of Nat, Chloe, and co. Another idea that might help with variety would be spacing out the release of pages a bit more (maybe once a week or even once every two weeks) if you want to focus on a single character without making them 50% of your content for two months. And briefly on the pacing since that seemed to be the most commonly cited concern, I think it was very good overall... I don't think you could have done much better for the scope of this story if you wanted her to be bigger in every page. Having a couple of pages between size jumps might have helped to ground things a bit, but there's only so much you can do gradually in 13 pages. It was certainly nice to see the upgrade to full shading for these, but I'm wondering if a higher volume of flat-color illustrations would be a potential solution? Just a shower thought, lol.
WeaponA
2023-11-25 16:03:20 +0000 UTCThe plot kinda spoiled my playthrough of the game, haha Also, your OCs are delightful, so more of them is always a win. You've got great stuff with your main girls (Chloe and Nat), but it's been *a minute* since we've seen them in a comic. I'd love one about Nat getting absolutely ENORMOUS, because of her grumpy brat energy! Maybe in a non-canon way (it was all a dream!), because those OCs seem to have their own progression thing going on. Maybe she starts dating a closeted feeder...?
Guy Face Thrace
2023-11-25 13:51:10 +0000 UTCTo make this concise, I REALLY loved the paneling in this series. The technique behind each part was very impressive, and the fact that pretty much every page had a new "fanservice" perspective was really cool. The story stayed consistent for me, though I LOVED the more introspective parts (pages 3, 8, 10, and especially 11) (That's personal taste talking though). Looking at what you accomplished with this series, I am interested to see how your next project will take shape! Ratings/10 (With 5 being average) Story......6 (high points were an 8) Fanservice..........8.5 Pacing..................7 Paneling..............9.5 Outside of personal preferences, this is your best (on a technical and mechanical level) series to date.
FlyingHigh1998
2023-11-25 04:08:47 +0000 UTCI liked that it was Zelda, but I also would've greatly enjoyed something similar with OCs (like Val & her bf) I love the sequence though. And Salt's characters always look good, be they established or original.
Joe Smith
2023-11-25 04:01:36 +0000 UTCYeah part of me hoped the last two pages were pound town time lol
Azshana
2023-11-25 02:36:30 +0000 UTCI love how LARGE Zelda got🥵❤️❤️
BlackWolf997
2023-11-25 01:55:31 +0000 UTCAs far as content, quality, length, interest, etc. It’s easily the best comic I believe you’ve done, with only Losing Control in comparison to match (for me personally). Though that’s partially because I’m a fan of the game. I feel that what raises the bar is that its a weird mesh of being a kink-focused comic mixed with a love for the series. It’s more than just a regular sequence piece of ‘Zelda gets fatter’ that has been done numerous times before, but also littered with well thought-out Easter eggs from the game (Koroks, Zelda’s secret well, the jingle, the school drawing on the last page, Hateno Cheese being an actual cooking ingredient in the game, along with being able to make the different meals on page eight.) I had mentioned in my criticism for Couple Stuff in that the story seemed to rapidly skip ahead with Shannon’s gain practically doubling over the next page. With Tears of the Wardrobe however, it’s all evenly paced. I feel that whatever size would be the reader’s favorite, it was covered in at least one of the pages and given focus. The chibi versions of characters were an adorable touch, and somewhat preferred them in comparison simply because I love the contrast of small/thin vs large/fat. Somewhat reminded me of the Teen Titans cartoon. Though it was a bit conflicting to look at with pages eight and nine when Rauru wasn’t in this form and Sonia was as they were right next to each other. I understand that the focus is on Zelda, and that this was most likely done to not take away from that while also having less on the page, but I think it might have been better if Rauru was also in the small chibi form for page eight. The only slight disappointment I experienced checking in every week was page four, in that it was the realization that it wasn’t exactly a sequel series or an original tale, but just a retelling of the original game plot with the weight gain twist infused with it (or an alternate fat timeline, whatever works for LoZ). Part of it is that you already sort of know what will happen next. The other is that alone also causes more questions for the comic. Was Ganon set free? What does Link do all this time? Why does he go to the light dragon? Etc. None of this distracts from the main selling point of course, which is just sexy fat fiction. As I said from the start, I think this is the best you’ve done, but I’m not sure if I would think differently if this was based on a franchise I was unfamiliar with and couldn’t pick up on all the little fan-service tidbits scattered around. I think the web-comic style worked for this for the imagery of everything, think it all just depends on the project and how it visually tells the story. The final note I will say is that it was also a nice comic in your style to see differ in plot in that it was less realistic and more fictional. Looking forward to the next comic, regardless on whether it takes place in the real world or a concept more out there. 10/10
Splerm
2023-11-25 01:25:49 +0000 UTCI liked the sequencing, seeing the snippets of story that lead into each other. And of course the art was good lol. I think it works well for an established IP like this, but for your OCs it would be better to flesh out the story more since we don't have as much background information.
Nowwho
2023-11-25 01:11:55 +0000 UTCThe last one's hard. I'd certainly welcome a similar project with OCs, but I can't say I'd outright "prefer" it... But I'll say phenomenal depiction of double chins.
TextileMonster
2023-11-25 01:02:34 +0000 UTCI enjoyed the adventure! The pacing was good and I liked that the project was well researched. I liked that you used the opportunity to experiment as well. Personally would love to see a similar project with your OC's. Even if it was a "what-if" scenario or non-canon series of events. Like a role-reversal or personality swap between characters.
Showtime
2023-11-25 00:40:54 +0000 UTCI really liked it overall! Phenomenal art as usual! I just wished there was slower pacing/development. The beginning gain felt rather fast and sudden. I personally think black/white or simple colored comics can go a long way since you can flesh the story (and gains) out more :)
Berry's Bakery
2023-11-25 00:29:37 +0000 UTCI like Zelda, not the biggest fan. Only ever played a few games (mostly siblings) and never finished them. Loved the comic. Last quarter was a bit too big for me, but I know there’s lots of people that like that size. Do wish we got to see more parts with earlier parts of her gains. 🙏
Theonewun
2023-11-25 00:17:16 +0000 UTCI love that it was an established IP. The more I care about characters, the hotter the weight gain becomes. I generally do not care about OCs.
Mike Ole
2023-11-25 00:12:59 +0000 UTCI'm mainly glad that all the sizes got some attention in this sequence. Was so happy to see Zelda hit immobility especially after Courtney failed to reach it in the ending of Couples Stuff after all the other sizes were shown off there. It made Zelda's weight gain feel complete. Beyond that, I enjoyed your varied use of panelling, and that this was a more standard sequence that was light on story. For how much story focused sequences/comics there are nowadays, this was refreshing.
SomeLostLeo
2023-11-24 23:54:02 +0000 UTCI might just be a horn dog but i wish link and zelda would have how fat sex at the end of the
David j Chang
2023-11-24 23:46:20 +0000 UTCOverall, this was an excellent comic. Your art was stellar and the pacing was great. Although I would love to see more work like this with your OCs, this was very well done and a good use of an IP. Keep up the good work!
Solar-G
2023-11-24 23:45:38 +0000 UTCI've never really been a Zelda fan so much of the plot was just me going along with the ride, but I did like her growth and the artwork, which is mostly what I'm here for.
Zoey
2023-11-24 23:44:16 +0000 UTCThe art was excellent for me! I thought the dialog was also really good. I think the layout/paneling felt odd and weird to me. Would have preferred layout like you have done for previous comics. But as always I only give this feedback because you seemed to ask for it. I’m honored to be a patron of your work. I’m not sure on whether I liked that it used an established IP. I have loved your comics with your original characters. I think I prefer that.
Cory
2023-11-24 23:43:28 +0000 UTCI liked, only issue is how explosive her growth was since it felt too fast
mswoman
2023-11-24 23:40:41 +0000 UTCI think it was one of your best comics tbh. Every panel seemed like you were showing Zeldas growing body from a new angle or situation and all of them feel worth looking at more than once
Naval warfare
2023-11-24 23:40:24 +0000 UTCJust wanted to say I thought the comic was fantastic!
Thiscantbereal
2023-11-24 23:39:47 +0000 UTCI had no idea what was happening because I’ve never played a Zelda game but I loved how you made her so many different sizes so people with every taste would have something to like. Was a work of art, appreciate all you do!
Azshana
2023-11-24 23:39:03 +0000 UTC