NT00

Yumi Christmas IF

Added 2022-12-31 02:37:39 +0000 UTC

(Using a Translator)

I think there are a lot of people who are disappointed in Part 2

The work has become a confusing situation between Pure love and NTR, and I have had a lot of thoughts and expressions recently.

In this IF, the relationship between the two does not change, It is a new type of IF where the story can continue.

I don't know how it'll look.

Let's think again about the direction of the painting during the break.

I am aware that the amount has been decreasing recently.

Condition problems and Live2D production,

When I think about the quality of the picture, I can't keep up with the quantity.

With next year just around the corner, I would like to express my apologies to those who felt disappointed and disappointed.

I would like to thank everyone who supported me, and I will do my best next year.

Happy New Year in advance.

my physical limitations, I organize and post PSD as soon as I wake up.

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今度のPart2の他にも最近失望した方々が多いと思います。

作品が純愛とNTRの間で方向性が混乱した状況になり、最近構想と表現に悩みが多かったです。

関係が変わらない、ストーリーが続けられる新しいタイプのIFですが、

どう見えるか分かりません。

休憩期間中、作品の方向性について考え直してみます。

最近分量が少なくなっていることは認知しています。

コンディション問題とLive2D製作、

絵のクオリティを考えてみると前より分量についていけなくなるようです。

来年が目前の今年、失望と残念さを感じた方々に申し訳ないというお言葉と

支援してくださる皆さんに感謝の言葉を、そして来年も頑張るという言葉を申し上げます。

予め、新年明けましておめでとうございます。

体力の限界でPSDは寝て起きた後すぐ整理して投稿します。

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이번 Part2 이외에도 최근에 실망하신분이 많다고 생각합니다.

작품이 순애와 NTR사이에서 혼란스러운 상황이 되었고, 최근 구상과 표현에 고민이 많았습니다.

이번 IF는 둘사이의 관계가 변하지 않는, 스토리가 이어질수있는 새로운 타입의 IF입니다만

어떻게 보일지 모르겠습니다.

휴식 기간동안 작품의 방향성에 대해 다시 생각을 가져보겠습니다.

최근 분량이 적어지고 있는것은 인지하고 있습니다.

컨디션문제와 라투디 제작, 그림의 퀄리티를 생각하다보니 전보다 분량을 못따라가 가게 되는것 같습니다.

내년이 코앞인 올해, 실망과 아쉬움을 느끼신분들에게 죄송하다는 말씀과

지원해주시는 모든분들에게 감사의 말씀을, 그리고 내년도 열심히 하겠다는 말씀을 드립니다.

미리 새해 복 많이 받으세요

체력의 한계로 PSD는 자고 일어난뒤 바로 정리해서 올리겠습니다

2023-01-05 19:11:28 +0000 UTC

I think as Yura her limits are starting to change for example the first kissing video as a guy said, first she said that she won't kiss jin because he smells like smoke, then a small "chu" on the lips, then just "lick the tip of the tongue" and then " a deep kiss with jin" because Haru could not resits Yumi's tentation. The interview video aiming to no-condom sex with jin were Yura was "acting" she didn't want to haru watch that video but jin sent it anyway and finally the video she recorded before christmas night that we don't know if they had sex with that special condom or not. So I think there's a posibility that she allows no-condom sex with jin at some point or another, but that's up to NT00. About the IF, it's just an IF. If people don't like that "NTR" route just don't look the IF route, it has nothing to do with the main route anyway because is an IF.

Waifu Sommelier

2023-01-05 18:46:30 +0000 UTC

Fuck_Y00

2023-01-01 22:19:36 +0000 UTC

Kado2007

2023-01-01 04:26:27 +0000 UTC

Well, now with a cooler head I think I can give a more sensible opinion beyond my personal tastes on this story... I perfectly understand that we are all disappointed, unfortunately this last chapter in both versions felt like a failed attempt to please everyone and that, as it has been proven, does not work, it is difficult for all of us to always be happy. Due to this, I believe that the only possible solution for the sake of quality, quantity and the health of the author is that he only tell what he wants to tell without having to feel pressured by anyone and if what he wants is a vanilla, then whoever does not like it You can stop contributing in the end with your money and your time, the same thing happens with the story going to one side NTR, in the end we read what we like and pay for it, nobody forces us. I think that continuing with the alternative routes will continue to generate discomfort in the future and will leave the feeling that we continue to receive less, so NT00 only tells the story you want and if unfortunately there are no more ideas then finish the story as quickly as possible and let's move on to something else, I think it's the healthiest thing for everyone, in the end someone is always going to complain. Happy New Year and happy holidays.

Mysterious Quote

2023-01-01 01:04:39 +0000 UTC

좋은 거 기대합니다

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 22:17:26 +0000 UTC

그거 겁나 잘만들었던데 대단해요 ㅋㅋㅋ 본편보다 더 꼴릿했습니다 특히 중국에서 만든거는 너무 정밀해서 여기 말고 다른데다 푼건가 싶었어요 본편 크리스마스 파트 활용해서 저도 만들어 볼까 생각중이에요 ㅋㅋㅋ

2022-12-31 21:47:47 +0000 UTC

NT00さん、明けましておめでとうございます！十分な休息をとってください。私はあなたの本が大好きです

Weitziy

2022-12-31 19:24:15 +0000 UTC

Live 2d를 파이즈리씬과 교배프레스씬 둘다 내놓으면 민심정리 가능할 거 같네요 다만 작가님의 컨디션상 불가능 할 것 같습니다

2022-12-31 18:16:55 +0000 UTC

Opinions can be lost in a sea of comments. Leave a like here if you loved the IF version and want the author to know it 💞💕💞

Dax

2022-12-31 17:58:44 +0000 UTC

I have to admit I'm very confused with the IF route. Is Yumi putting everything on Haru now to get his shit together or is it something else. Like if he does beg for her to stop and truly wants out of the netorase play would she end it or would she keep going because she is Yura now. I mean does that mean that she would no longer view him as her boyfriend or care about him as much, does she still love him the same or would that fade? I guess the main question I have is would she really ever stop the play even if Haru wanted to in that scenario, cause I don't know and I can't tell if that is her goal in that scenario. Another question I have is whether this is the direction the story is going or not. I like the bond between Haru and Yumi and having this be the way the story is going I don't know how I feel about that. I guess though if the IF route is just a one off than it really won't matter, because as far as I know the IF stories are just alternatives that emphasize ntr. But let me know down below if I'm completely wrong or not.

Waterdwellar

2022-12-31 17:57:04 +0000 UTC

in viewpoint i like it, people's tastes vary

apalotega

2022-12-31 15:26:26 +0000 UTC

작가님 새해복 많이 받으세요! 앞으로도 기대하겠습니다!

SEOK SEOK

2022-12-31 15:26:07 +0000 UTC

ntr이 문제가 아니라 너무 부실함

태협 김

2022-12-31 14:29:01 +0000 UTC

Just because Haru is Netorase's taste does not confirm this work as a pure NTS. The reason for the problem this time is that the artist ambiguous the position of the work by referring to NTR's room, referring to the "irreversible line" while dealing with the story of senpai and hojin in the sequel. Of course, the author said something about the NTS that the relationship you said does not change. However, the author spoke about his plans and pledges through various channels, including Pixiv and Twitter, as well as Patron, which I said in an earlier commentOne of them was that Sipi said he would also draw NTR IF ending in "The Main Story" (i.e., that of the 32 episodes before the sequel). However, the promise was not kept, and instead, he said he would draw an IF every month, but the promise was not kept. Often, the introduction of IF also lacked relevance to the main story. And in the sequel (not the main story), the author is constantly trying to introduce the NTR IF route, and the story of the sequel has already gone too far to be just a simple NTS episode. In this situation, there are too many changed plans to believe that the light NTS policy that the author said after the main episode is still maintained. Meanwhile, the work is causing conflicts between NTS-NTR, pure NTS, and vanilla. NTS-NTR is divided into hojin and senpai, each hoping to establish their own NTR, pure NTS hopes to settle down as an open couple who enjoy NTS along with maintaining the status quo, and Vanilla hopes that Haru will someday liquidate NTS and become a complete couple. And the writer was clearly aware of the three categories and was filling everyone's needs little by little without clarifying their position among them, and this time, the complaint came out. None of them are 'unjust' and all have been sponsored by the artist's work and promises outside of the work. It is not that the author is not responsible here. Knowing that there have been such conflicts since the days of serializing the main story, the artist was intentional to put the work back to the middle ground through the follow-up work even after it was completed. I am not just trying to accuse this of being wrong. First of all, the artist has been painting at least every month, and it is also possible to try to be sponsored by fans from different classes. Also, nasaneji is nasaneji, and it is neither NTR nor NTS nor vanilla. This distinction is postmortem. However, the author clearly understood and used the situation of the fans, and was trying to say that the reaction of the fans due to such actions is not unfair, and proposed three ways to solve the problem. You said NTR works are overflowing, but there are plenty of NTS works, especially in the West, such as sharing and hotwife. And it is a rather strange logic to put up with the fact that there are many other NTR works. I don't know if I checked the contents properly using a translator, and I don't know if the meaning is conveyed properly because I used a translator. I hope it was delivered well and I hope you enjoy your porn life in the new year. --------- 단지 haru가 네토라세 취향이라고 해서 이 작품이 순수한 NTS로 확정된 것은 아니다. 작가는 후속작에서 senpai와 hojin의 이야기를 다루면서 '돌이킬 수 없는 선'이라는 것을 언급하면서 NTR의 여지를 언급하면서 작품의 포지션을 애매모호하게 한 것이 이번의 문제의 원인이다. 물론 당신이 말한 관계가 변하지 않는 NTS에 대한 말을 작가가 하였긴 하였다. 그러나, 작가는 패트론 뿐만 아니라 픽시브, 트위터 등 다양한 경로로 자신의 계획과 공약에 대하여 말을 했는데, 내가 앞선 댓글에서 말했다시피 작가는 '본편'(그러니까 후속작 이전의 32편짜리의 그것)에서 NTR IF엔딩도 그릴 것이라고 하였던 것도 그 중 하나이다. 그러나 그 약속은 지켜지지 않았고, 그 대신 매월 IF를 그릴 것이라고 했지만 그 약속도 지켜지지 않았다. 종종 IF라고 내놓는 것도 메인 스토리와는 연관성이 부족하였다. 그리고 (메인 스토리가 아닌) 후속작에서 작가는 NTR IF루트 도입을 시도를 지속적으로 하고 있으며, 후속작의 이야기도 단지 단순한 NTS 에피소드라고 보기엔 이미 너무 깊은 곳까지 들어와버렸다. 이 상황에서 작가가 본편 끝나고 말한 가벼운 NTS 정책이 여전히 유지되고 있다고 믿기엔 변경된 계획이 너무도 많다. 한편 이 작품은 NTS-NTR과 순수 NTS, 그리고 바닐라 세 부류가 갈등을 일으키고 있다. NTS-NTR은 hojin과 senpai로 나뉘어 각자가 각자의 NTR이 성립되기를 바라고 있고, 순수 NTS는 현상유지와 더불어 NTS를 즐기는 오픈된 커플로 정착하기를 바라며, 바닐라는 언젠가 haru가 NTS를 청산하고 완전한 커플로 거듭나기를 바라고 있다. 그리고 작가는 그 세 부류를 명확히 인지하고 있었고 그들 사이에서 입장을 명확히 하지 않은 채 모두의 요구를 조금씩만 채워주고 있었고, 이번의 불만이 나오게 된 것이다. 이들 중에 어느 한 부류도 '정당하지 않은' 부류는 없으며 모두가 작가의 작품과 작품 외적인 약속에 의해 후원을 해왔던 것이다. 여기에 작가의 책임이 없는 것은 아니다. 본편을 연재하던 시절부터 이러한 갈등이 있어왔던 것을 알고 있으면서 완결된 후에도 후속작을 통해 다시 작품을 중간 지대로 갖다놓았다는 것은 작가가 의도성이 있었다는 것이다. 나는 이것이 마냥 잘못되었다고 비난하려는 것은 아니다. 우선 작가는 적어도 매달 작품을 그려왔고, 각기 다른 계층의 팬들에게 후원을 받으려고 하는 것도 할 수 있는 일이다. 또한 nasaneji는 nasaneji이고 NTR도 NTS도 바닐라도 아니다. 이러한 구분은 사후적인 것이다. 그러나 작가는 팬들의 상황을 명확히 이해하고 이용하였고, 그러한 행위로 인해 팬들이 보이는 반응 역시 부당하지 않다는 것을 말하려는 것이고, 그로 인한 문제를 해결하기 위해 3가지 방법을 제안한 것이다. 당신은 NTR작품이 넘쳐난다고 하였는데 NTS작품도 충분히 많으며 특히 서양 쪽엔 sharing, hotwife같은 것이 넘쳐날 지경이다. 그리고 다른 NTR작품이 많다고 해서 참으라는 것은 다소 이상한 논리이다. 나도 번역기를 사용해서 내용을 제대로 확인한건지 모르겠고 지금 이 문장도 번역기를 사용한 것이라 의미가 제대로 전달되는지는 모르겠다. 잘 전달되었기를 바라며 새해에도 즐거운 포르노 생활 되길 바란다. 파파고 돌린다고 번역체 씀 ㅋㅋ

soddl

2022-12-31 13:52:42 +0000 UTC

Ok, I think that in this one Yumi is a lot out of her character, to much submission towards Jin, she never was like that, the promise to let Jin fuck her wherever he wantend and her agreeing to it on spot is to forced in my opinion, It also lacked Haru feelings while he has been watching this scene. It just don't add up to the characters from vanilla from which it originates from, it's unlogical I would say. Either way thank you for your work NT00 and enjoy your holidays

THE RED ONE

2022-12-31 13:29:00 +0000 UTC

Hopeful for more Yumi POV too!

StefML

2022-12-31 13:24:49 +0000 UTC

失望なんてとんでもない、どうか先生の心の赴くままに描いてください。今年も沢山の素晴らしい作品をありがとうございました！！とにかくお身体を大切に、来年が良い年でありますように！

kudan

2022-12-31 12:40:20 +0000 UTC

Lol, I knew that why people being crazy as the story being told it will be raw sex more than half year already, but they being told it just kidding. I think everyone will be angry, even there are a if routes been provided. And I never think this could be a good solution. We never know what he plan of this story. But how to connect the story could arrived to the end that he plan for is the important thing. Maybe there are no plan for the end just depends on readers opinions.

2022-12-31 12:40:17 +0000 UTC

Ruthless I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I think the best solution to the problem is to end the story sooner rather than later because nobody here is going to be happy, that was demonstrated with these two versions so divided from each other, In case I already thought that the story was half exhausted but I continued to support it because I love his art.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 12:28:38 +0000 UTC

really disappointed with the camera angle of this. we dont get to see any kissing or yumi in her santa costume getting it on

HyperH

2022-12-31 12:08:43 +0000 UTC

I totally agree with this mate

Waifu Sommelier

2022-12-31 11:55:54 +0000 UTC

Well if she says she'll stay Yura for a while it's fine. She should keep having sex with Jin using the special condom since he's Yura's boyfriend. She doesn't have to turn into a slut and seeing other people. There are a lot of other perverted things Jin and Yura could do together. I wonder how Haru will react to that after a while.

BrilliantEast

2022-12-31 11:52:46 +0000 UTC

I wanted to thank you again for the translation advice. insert Thanos meme I did it myself between deepl and google trad I found what I think is the right traduction.

BrilliantEast

2022-12-31 11:41:48 +0000 UTC

결국은 작가가 스토리를 납득 시켜야 이 상황이 진정 됨. 스토리에 자신 없으면 정사신을 강화시키던가 스토리도 못잡고 그렇다고 정사신이 엄청난것도 아니고 두 가지 다 놓치고 있는 상황이고 작가가 말하는 속칭 본편에서까지는 루트 나누고 조삼모사 식으로 봉합이 가능했지만 지금은 본인도 줄타기 하면서 본편하고 IF에서 중심 못잡고 있는게 맞는거 같음. 누차 말하지만 순애 엔딩이든 NTR/NTS 엔딩이든 납득이 가게 진행시켜야 하고 두 파트를 나눈 이유를 확실히 보여줘야 함. 본편 이후의 스토리를 확실하게 못 잡으니까 단편으로 그리던게 의도든 아니든 독자 입장에선 스토리 진행 되는걸로 느껴졌고 작가도 딱히 부인 안하고 IF스토리는 오마케나 PSD 파일에 담아두고 대사도 안 붙히고 알아서 상상하게 만들고 오죽하면 NTR루트 좋아하는 해외독자들이 PSD파일이나 오마케 파일 편집에서 NTR루트를 만듬. 작가가 중심을 못잡는 중인데 그걸 보는 독자들은 중심을 잡을수 있을까?

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 10:59:31 +0000 UTC

No one is saying that she has to leave Haru, I think Haru watching yumi as yura have raw sex with jin like in the "if" would be an inflection point for Haru to think about his fetish and stuff. It isn't a NTR route nor Yumi having sex with a bcc nor humiliating NTR nor turning yumi into a slut like some kid said above.

Waifu Sommelier

2022-12-31 10:53:08 +0000 UTC

yes that's what I'm afraid of. I dont want Nt00 to drive himself crazy trying to cater to everyone needs. he should write it the way he wants to do it. Of course the feedback is good to take into consideration but at the end of the day , it should be his own idea.

Ruthless

2022-12-31 10:41:46 +0000 UTC

I dont know if translation got most of what you said correctly but this has never been a true NTR. The start of Haru and Yumi relationship was already messed up because of Yumi. She's the caused of Haru's fetish. so it's more of a NTS route if anything. she doesn't want to leave him for some other guy. If that was the case she would have stood with the senpai. The story would not make sense going to NTR route. from the beginning Nt00 wrote that these plays of NTR/NTS will not break Yumi and Haru's relationship. There's thousands of NTR with the BS endings you can read, this one is not it.

Ruthless

2022-12-31 10:37:22 +0000 UTC

저랑 반대시네요. 전 선배가 나오면 안보고, 호진이랑 유라가 나오면 봄..ㅎㅎ 선배는 제 취향이 아니라서.. ㅠㅠ

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-12-31 10:23:49 +0000 UTC

올 한해 고생하셨습니다. 내년에도(2월부터) 좋은 퀄의 작품으로 찾아와주셨으면 합니다. 그리고 이야기는 일단 본인이 생각하시는대로 진행을 해주셨으면 합니다. 저는 NTR이던 NTS던, 걍 유미가 개꼴려서 보는거라 ㅎㅎ 단지 이리저리 바꾸다가 유미라는 캐릭터가 그리기 싫어지는 상황은 안 왔으면 좋겠습니다. 저도 유미의 이야기는 더 보고싶거든요.

nenemtti

2022-12-31 10:14:56 +0000 UTC

난 선배 다시 등판하기 전까지 후원 안하고 있으려다 갑자기 사람들 말이 엄청 나오길래 뭔일인가 하고 잠깐 확인하러 온건데 확실히 개판이 되긴 한듯 정리를 하자면 이 작품 본편이 NTR이랑 순애 사이에서 줄타기하던 작품이었고 양쪽의 충돌이 제법 있었던 작품이었는데 순애 엔딩 세우고 NTR파트를 IF로 보내버리면서 대강 일단락 되었음 그리고 NTR 지지자를 달래기 위해서인지, 정말 생각이 있어서인지는 몰라도 작가 양반이 본편 엔딩 NTR루트도 그리겠다고 천명했음 근데 문제는 본편 NTR루트는 안 그리고 후일담이라고 내용을 계속 그리면서 IF루트랍시고 본편 맥락과 좀 동떨어진, 오마케나 다름 없는 짤 몇개씩 깔짝깔짝 그린게 전부였음. 또 하나의 문제는 본격적인 스토리를 진행을 해버린 것 그 자체와 그 스토리 진행에서 NTR 빌드업을 또 시작해버렸다는 것에 있음. 그러다가 이번편에서 호진이랑 질싸 해금한다고 해놓고선 뜬금없이 순애 3p를 해버리니 NTR 지지자가 폭발하고 IF편은 IF편 대로 '정식으로 추가될 수 있는' 특수한 IF 편이라고 해버리니 NTR이 본편에 편입된다고 순애 지지자도 불만나오는 성황인거지. NTR지지자 입장에선 IF취급 당하는 것도 서러운데 본편 NTR루트는 내지도 않고 후일담으로 깔짝깔짝 간만 보면서 IF마저 제대로 안해주니 열받고 순애 지지자는 본편 순애로 끝났는데 계속 진지한 NTR 간보니까 열받고 상황이 이런 상황인듯함. 근데 왜 이렇게 순애지지자(특히 서양 야겜식 공유, NTS루트 기대하는 양키들 위주로) TRUE는 순애, 소프트 NTS다. NTR은 IF일 뿐이다. 라고 주장하는지 모르겠음. 이게 그렇게 가벼운 문제인줄 아나? 애초에 순수 NTS 외엔 염두에 두지 없었다면 호진이랑 선배가 아니라 제 3의 엑스트라 만들어서 가벼운 NTS나 했어야했고 본편이 NTR이었던 세나를 등장시키지도 말았어야지 암튼 개인적으로 몇 가지 방법을 제안하자면 1. 본편 NTR 루트 제대로 그려주고, 후일담은 NTS 하더라도 엑스트라 위주로 굴린다. 이 방법은 NTR 루트 끝나는 대로 NTR 지지자와는 결별해야는 문제가 있음. 2. 'IF' 라는 개념을 폐기하고 순애루트, NTR루트(호진, 선배루트 뭐가 됐든), NTS루트로 정사 루트를 여러 개로 갈라버린다. IF는 본편의 것인데 왜 또 다시 NTR 빌드업 해가면서 스토리 진행할거면서 계속 IF라는 개념을 쓰는지 모르겠음. IF는 본편 스토리에 연관된 거나 저번 선배 크리스마스처럼 후일담의 맥락이랑 관계가 없는 시츄에나 붙였으면 좋겠음. 이쯤 되면 '스토리가 끝난 후의 후일담'이 아니라 '본편 2부'라는 것을 인정을 했으면 좋겠음 이 방법은 다소의 순애 지지자들의 반발과 그려야할 이야기가 더 길어지는 문제가 있긴함. 3. 모든 스토리 진행을 멈추고, 본편으로 스토리는 끝이 난 것으로 하고, 단편 짤로 시츄만 깔짝깔짝 그린다. 이러면 작가가 그리고 싶을 때 그리고 싶은 시츄만 편하게 그릴 수 있다는 장점이 있음. 말 나올 건덕지도 많이 줄고 단지 이 방법은 전체적인 구독자가 줄어들 수 있다는 문제가 있긴함. 암튼 작가가 잘 생각해서 결정하면 좋겠고 계속 NTR 진행할거라면 난 선배 재등판할 때까지 다시 존버하러 감

soddl

2022-12-31 10:09:36 +0000 UTC

If you want me to read IF that is a Route NTR that doesn't actually happen. I think it's better not to draw it.

NIeRFFx

2022-12-31 09:37:31 +0000 UTC

Everyone hates it's NTR but still reads it because it's NTR. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

NIeRFFx

2022-12-31 09:34:53 +0000 UTC

게다가 질내사정을 풀어버리면, 지금 당장은 자극적일 수 있지만 유미라는 캐릭터가 더 빨리 소비되어서 이 후에 덜 매력적으로 다가 올 수 있다고 생각합니다. 일반적으로 질내사정은 ntr에서 거의 끝판왕 느낌이 들어서.. 호진이한테 질내사정을 풀어버리면 나중에 선배한테 질내사정 당할 때 덜 자극적으로 느껴질 것 같기도 하고요. 유미도 자기 입으로 선배한테도 허락 안 한 질내사정을 호진이한테 허락할리가 없다고 하기도 했었죠. 이 작품을 더 오래 즐기고 싶은 독자로서 질내사정 이전에 할 수 있는 다른 플레이들을 더 많이 보여주시면 좋을 것 같습니다! 저 위 댓글에도 썼지만 좋은 작품 만드느라 고생하셨고 새해 복 많이 받으세요. 말은 많이 했지만 작가님이 어떤 스토리를 선택하든 응원하겠습니다.

omega3

2022-12-31 09:23:28 +0000 UTC

true,dud

W1O8HK

2022-12-31 09:18:25 +0000 UTC

They are both responsible. But having Haru not clearly saying he wants it it s not an excuse for him. It s because he always gives half answer that Yumi has to guess and make it happen. Look at his reaction after the interview. He comes running to Yumi like a puppy. I m not saying she is innocent In his fetish. But I m an old school guy, and for me Haru is just hiding his desire behind the fact Yumi is pushing to help him. As a true respectful lover, even if he wants to do the NTR play , take the imitative, communicate with your partner, be a fucking man about your twisted desires. That s all I m saying. I find it too easy to just say it s all her fault, when she may be not be able to stop his fantasies to escalate, but she is fucking ready to jump on the mine for the guy. So To my understanding Haru is asking for it, just he does not express it clearly and let Yumi do the interpretation. Even if his reaction In the true part 2 is what I want from him. Simple, not over the top, choose your partner before your fantasies like she does

Aiboru974

2022-12-31 09:12:35 +0000 UTC

Honestly speaking, somehow I think people quite forceed the story to follow their idea. Give too much concept to tell how it should be. But I will be upset that story will follow those ideas as it just boring if we could imagination the future story and it never better than your imagination as the best outcome is in your mind. Each time make something differently is the best idea. Just like this time the Part 2 story that I never thought this could be happened which suriprise me a lot.This is how this story is attract people as you will get surprise of each changing.

2022-12-31 09:04:25 +0000 UTC

Ismael, yeah you're right. I think that would get out of hand. Nt00 going to make things more complicated then it needs to be. which would put more stress on himself to make all the ifs and story make sense. I think this story needs an ended sooner than later.

Ruthless

2022-12-31 08:52:52 +0000 UTC

I really enjoy how your story goes. IF Route provides different people with different stories. And we all enjoy it. You have my full support and wish you good health and happiness.

L rock

2022-12-31 08:51:33 +0000 UTC

조금 생각해봤는데. 질내사정은 유미가 하루랑 사귀기 전, 많은 남자들이랑 하면서도 절대 허락 안 했던 영역이잖아요? 작품 외적으로도 작가님이 거의 2년 정도 질내사정은 하루와 할 때 이외에는 안 그렸고요. 그렇기 때문에 쉽게 허락 해주는 것은 유미 캐릭터성에 있어서도 아쉬운 것 같습니다. 많은 사람들이 아쉬워 하는 것은 이해가 갑니다. 호진이와 질내사정을 거의 할 것 처럼 해놓고 결국 안했으니까요. 애초에 질내사정 언급을 안했으면 더 좋았을 것 같지만 작품 특성 상 더 자극적인 행위가 필요하긴 하겠죠. 제 생각에는 질내사정 보다는 다른 쪽으로 수위를 높이는 게 더 나을 것 같습니다. 위에도 말했다시피 질내사정은 유라의 절대 영역이었기 때문에 그걸 깰 때는 지금보다 더 신중한 빌드업이 필요하다고 생각합니다. 수위를 높이는 다른 예를 굳이 들자면, 다른 플레이(더 깊은 연인 연기, 뒤로 하기)를 하거나 다른 새로운 캐릭터를 등장시킨다든지(남후배 같은) 선배를 등장시킨다든지 등등.. 선배 등장 타이밍은 작가님이 생각하신게 이미 있다고 생각되긴 합니다. 이상, 그냥 제 생각이었습니다. 전 지금 작품에 만족하기 때문에 훈수두려는 것도 아니고 작가님이 고민하고 계시다길래 그냥 이러면 어떨까 하는 의견이었습니다.

omega3

2022-12-31 08:49:43 +0000 UTC

David, yes I agree with you. having a fetish is all good and all but what's the point if you take it too far and lose the love your life. Haru needs to man up more often and just love yumi.

Ruthless

2022-12-31 08:47:22 +0000 UTC

MP4 は二月に投稿する方がいいと思います。PSDを終わって、たっぷり休んでください。私は大ファンとしての考えを後で書きます。私からも明けましておめでとうございます。

Florian Böttcher

2022-12-31 08:34:21 +0000 UTC

I was translating the txt with google but some of it isn't right. Thanks for the tips I'll try deepl too

BrilliantEast

2022-12-31 08:22:07 +0000 UTC

David, I totally agree, it really left a bad taste in my mouth this chapter, the only good thing was that Yumi looks really erotic, but Yumi is erotic whether it's in NTS, NTR or Vanilla, so yeah, bad chapter :c

Ismael

2022-12-31 08:17:54 +0000 UTC

Ruthless, I wasn't referring to the old "Ifs", those ifs I have literally passed them by my balls, especially all content in which senpai is the protagonist. My problem is with the new type of "if" that is literally the main story but with another development. Imagine the mess of stories that there will be if the author decides to make 4-5 caps of each "if", that would be a total mess. Besides, that will only generate that different groups will ask for more content of their favorite "if", which will not make anyone happy, it will only make the problem worse.

Ismael

2022-12-31 08:15:47 +0000 UTC

That is exactly my point but they make it look like he is taking advantage, when clearly he never asked for anything that is happening. Haru is not a victim, but his only mistake is being a coward.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 08:05:11 +0000 UTC

그저 당신은 ntr 느낌이 날 수 있는 요소가 리얼진행스토리에서 나오는걸 반대하기때문에 이렇게 댓글을 쓴다는걸 나는 알 수가 있다. 당신과 나는 서로 입장에선 서로 의견차이가 생길 수 밖에 없다. 하지만 당신 의견도 존중을 한다. 각자의 원하는 스토리가 있을 수 밖에 없기때문에 그런 것임을 난 알기 때문이다.

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-12-31 08:01:34 +0000 UTC

There is someone who translates the story into English, but it is not official (I will not pass link out of respect for the author). Anyway, you can also download the .txt file and translate it with deepl and google at the same time (You have to use both at the same time, because they complement each other in the things that are missing in the other), then you have to edit with photoshop and ready, it is not very difficult, the author practically gives you everything chewed :v

Ismael

2022-12-31 07:54:48 +0000 UTC

The problem is that they wanted it in the canon route because the IFs are not enough.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 07:54:32 +0000 UTC

유미와 유라는 같은 사람이라고 보면 안된다고 생각해요. 같은 사람이라고 볼거면 왜 굳이 유라라는 설정을 만들었나요? 그냥 유미였으면 되는것을요. 그리고 하루를 속이고 동의 없이 무언가를 한다고 이야기한거 없습니다. 그저 유미일때는 순애 하루 바라기인거고, 유라일때는 무엇이든 할 수 있는 사람이 된다는걸 이야기 하고 싶은거에요.

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-12-31 07:53:19 +0000 UTC

유미와 유라는 같은 사람이고, 유라의 창조 목적은 하루를 속이고 동의 없이 무언가를 하는 것이 아니라 무언가를 만들어 하루에게 보여주기 위한 것입니다. 👎🏼

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 07:52:00 +0000 UTC

The only thing missing was the chastity belt and to tell him from now on there would be no sex and you would have to see me having sex as a gift, until you cry and beg for me to stop making you NTR, only those two things were missing for us to have the generic NTR of Handbook. There are no words to describe how misplaced and disappointing it was, too OOC.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 07:47:40 +0000 UTC

다들 오해가 많으신거 같은데 "ntr"을 원한다는게 아니라 유라와 호진이의 노콘 해금을 기대했던건데 자꾸 왜 ntr ntr 거리는지 이해가 안가요. 그리고 유미는 하루바라기이고, 유라는 하루바라기가 아닌 설정이라 유라상태에선 무엇이든지 할 수 있음을 이해해야합니다. 저도 하루가 있음으로 호진이와 유라의 관계가 재밌는 사람 중 하나에요. 유미와 하루의 관계는 지속되었으면 좋겠어요. 호진이와 유라의 해금도 원할뿐이죠. ntr을 원한다는게 아닙니다... 유미는 계속 하루바라기 순애이면 되는거고, 유라는 무엇이든 할 수 있는 사람이 되면 되는거 아닐까 생각합니다.

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-12-31 07:43:36 +0000 UTC

Yeah we need Yumi POV too. I always loved these parts.

BrilliantEast

2022-12-31 07:42:42 +0000 UTC

I'm guessing we need to wait for the PSD's to get a good edited EN translation. Anyone knows where/how you can get that ?

BrilliantEast

2022-12-31 07:40:39 +0000 UTC

그리고 이번 IF스토리는 개인적으로는 IF스토리가 아니라고 생각한다. Ture스토리에 DLC일 뿐이다. 지금까지의 IF스토리는 하루의 망상과 하루를 전혀 배려하지 않는 유미의 모습을 그려왔다고 생각했다. 그런데 이번 IF는 어떤가 앞선 두 상황과 일치되는게 없다. 유미가 하루의 성향을 고치려고 자신을 희생하는 모습은 True스토리다 IF가 아니란 말이다. Ture와 IF의 경계선이 확실하길 바란다. 초반의 IF가 그러했던 것처럼. 이렇게 애매모호한 IF를 만들어 버린다면 더 혼란을 초래할 뿐이다. 하지만 이미 IF스토리가 이렇게 나와버린것은 돌이킬수 없는 일이다. 없던 일로 해버리긴엔 늦었다. 나는 그저 작가가 가는 길을 지켜보겠다.

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 07:39:27 +0000 UTC

그런데 지금은 어떤가 네토라세 표현은 점점 말이 안맞고 단순해지고 있다. 지금까지 순애엔딩에서의 작가의 변하지 않는 중심은 하루와 유미는 무슨 일이 있던, 점점 과격한 요구를 하던 끝은 어떠한 방해 할 것은 아무것도 없다. 둘은 행복해 질것이다. 이런 결론이다. 적어도 순애 이야기에선 말이다. 하지만 선배가 유미한테 다시 한번 작업 하는 에피소드는 이 주장에 부합하지 않는다. 분명 그 에피소드에서는 유미는 선배를 3번이나 거절했다. 이유는 '선배한테 네토라레 당하는 것을 요구하면 돌아오기 힘들다'라고 하루에게 설명했단 말이다. 무슨 행동을 해도 유미와 하루의 결속을 깰수 없다면 유미는 누구와 네토라레를 해도 상관없는거다. 하지만 호진과 관계에는 절대 이런 말을 하지 않았다. 물론 하루가 원하는 상대가 호진이었지만 선배의 경우 처럼 돌아오기 힘들다는 생각을 가지고 있었다면 거절했을 것이다.

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 07:38:40 +0000 UTC

Aiboru974, she plays a part of his fetish. she's the one that got him into it. Haru never clearly states what he wants its always yumi bring up ideas and asking Haru if he wants that. sometimes he gives a straight answer and sometimes he just hesitates

Ruthless

2022-12-31 07:38:22 +0000 UTC

그리고 제일 중요한건 네토라레에 대한 심리표현이다. 이 이야기는 기승전결 중에 결이 순애라 그렇지 기승전은 네토라레 표현이다. 순애 물론 좋은 엔딩이다. 작가의 생각에 부정할 생각 없다. 하지만 이 이야기에 사람들이 관심이 있던 이유는 주관적으로는 네토라레 표현이라고 생각한다. 그게 스토리에 잘 스며들어서 순애도 좋은 엔딩으로 생각한 것이다. 어느정도 납득할 만한 이유니까

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 07:38:08 +0000 UTC

본편이 끝난 후 에프터스토리 같은 현 시점에서 내가 느끼는 상황은 이렇다. 이야기는 어느정도 흘러간다. 하지만 정리가 매끄럽게 되지 않는다. 시간의 흐름도 여기저기 파편화 되있고 작가가 시간을 알려주는게 아니라 파편화 된걸 우리가 조각모음한다. 예를 들어보자면 '호진과 유미의 인터뷰 에피소드'와 '호진과 유미 모텔 커튼 플레이를 하루가 관전하는 에피소드'는 어떤 게 먼저 인지 정확하지 않게 느껴진다. 공개된 에피소드 순서로는 인터뷰->관전 플레이 이 순서지만 보는 사람은 이게 순서가 맞나? 뭐가 먼저지? 하는 생각이 든다. 최소한 어떤 에피소드가 먼저 인지 헷갈리게 만들지는 않게 해줘야 아닌가 싶다. 물론 내가 이해력이 부족한 것일수도 있다. 추가 캐릭터 세나도 별 설명없이 합류한다. 주인공들만큼은 아니라도 어느정도 시간을 할애해야 세나가 융화가 될텐데 그런 배려는 없다. 단지 에피소드 몇개를 위해 희생되는 소모품 일뿐이다.

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 07:37:48 +0000 UTC

우선, 나는 결말이 순수한 사랑이던 네토라레이던 끝이 중요하지는 않았다. 이야기 자체가 좋았으니까, 내가 이 이야기를 좋아했던 이유는 명확하다. 결말로 가는 과정에 있는 표현들이 좋았다. 그 상황이 나올 수 있게 만든 자세한 이야기 전개, 심리표현, 매력적인 캐릭터, 거기에 포함되는 네토라레에 대한 그림표현이 좋았다. 적어도 본편에서는 말이다.

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 07:37:15 +0000 UTC

Thank you for all the work you've done this year! I know there are many opinions out there, but I love the stories and illustrations that NT00 draws!!! And of course this IF! When you created "かのネジ" you must have drawn what you wanted to draw. I think that's fine! Keep creating the story of Hal and Yumi that NT00 wants to draw!! But first, I hope you get some rest and I look forward to reading your new story in February!!!!

daru

2022-12-31 07:37:14 +0000 UTC

우선 작가분의 모든 결정을 존중한다. 이 이야기는 작가의 것이고 나는 그 이야기를 보는 사람일 뿐이다. 분량, 퀄리티는 작가의 상황에 따른 것일테고, 정확한 상황을 모르는 나는 그저 내가 표현 할 수 있는 공간에 표현할 뿐이다. 물론 작가가 내 글을 봐 주었으면 하는 바램도 있다.

Fuck_Y00

2022-12-31 07:36:38 +0000 UTC

exactly, everybody wanted jin to creampie yumi well there you have it lol. even tho it was a bit extreme.

Ruthless

2022-12-31 07:26:33 +0000 UTC

It s not all her fault. Like I said, if Haru clearly stated what he wants and does not want and communicate it would be better. It s getting out of hands because she is only one in control and she has to deal with it alone. That s not normal for her to carry all the fetishes.

Aiboru974

2022-12-31 07:24:51 +0000 UTC

I don't really see the Ifs a problem though. he can literally focus on the main story with the NTS play and later on when story finishes he can add the ifs or the alternate route or whatever. but I agree with you tho this "IF" was totally out of character even for Yura, that shit poke my heart a lil too much lol

Ruthless

2022-12-31 07:24:39 +0000 UTC

Wow My Friend you are the man.!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 07:24:15 +0000 UTC

Oh my god ! As an "If" this is amazing. I love it. Athough the "True" part was nice too even if I'm not a huge fan of Sena it's chrismas and Yumi chose a lovey dovey gift for Haru instead of his fetish. Don't worry what everyone says you can't make eveyone happy all the time.

BrilliantEast

2022-12-31 07:10:46 +0000 UTC

NT00, I hope you can take a well deserved break this next month, and clarify the ideas you have for your next works. As for this "If" story, I must say that I found it extremely horrible, and the reason for that is that this development doesn't make any kind of sense, you have literally crapped on your own characters, forcing a situation exaggeratedly instead of letting your characters follow a fluid development. It's as if you've transformed into the fools that go around arguing in many forums saying that it's okay for Yura to do NTR because Yura is not Yumi, it's as if that bunch of brainless monkeys didn't realize that Yura is Yumi with a ponytail, it's as if tomorrow I got the brilliant idea to buy a fake mustache, comb my hair backwards and be unfaithful to my partner, it would still be me or not? Well, this is the same thing, Yumi is still Yumi no matter how much I play the role of a slut who has sex with anyone, she will still have her beliefs, her tastes, her character, etc. As for the idea of creating these different "ifs" to split the story into two routes I think it is a terrible idea for the format in which the story is currently being told and I will list below why I think so. 1) Doing this gives the feeling that you are doing this simply to keep your NTR-loving audience happy and you owe them something. First of all, you have made it very clear that Yumi's content would be short stories dealing with NTS and loving sex between the couple, so all of us who are paying to support your art and the story know very well where we have gotten ourselves into, you don't owe anyone anything, don't let yourself be manipulated. If you want to give NTR to this kind of audience, just create a different story with different characters. 2) Above you were saying that you couldn't follow the quality of the image because of the quantity, so doesn't this split story mean that there will be less quality because there will be more quantity? Take this chapter 2 as an example, instead of making this poorly designed "if" story, you could have made a really erotic part 2, with Sena and Yumi attending Haru while showing him the video that Yumi recorded the day before with Jin. The other negative point is that you would lose time to draw other things you like, such as the anime voting you do. 3) This kind of split format can confuse readers, because of the way you deliver the story as if it were a book. But, if we talk about a game then it's another thing entirely, if you deliver the story in visual novel format, splitting the story into multiple paths would be the right decision. 4) If you are going to divide the story in this part then it is a catastrophic mistake. If you are really determined to follow this kind of "if" route then it would have to have some coherence, for example, actually this development doesn't make any sense, because the couple's relationship was really good, both physically and emotionally, they didn't need this kind of stimulation at all, but what would have happened if it was Haru's idea that Yumi used the special condom with Jin? Then it would make sense to split the story, with Yumi taking the request as a joke and taking the story to part 2, or with Yumi getting angry about Haru's request and deciding to give him a spoonful of his own medicine. And lastly, it seems to me you've started to lose your way with regards to this story. At first, this NTS story was short chapters, which might as well have a completely random order and were simple erotic scenes of the couple showing their love and a bit of teasing on Yumi's part, in a way they were quite bright and cheerful scenes. However, since you've added Jin, the story has become dark and lonely, full of intrigue and anxiety. For example, look at the 2021-10SET chapter, shouldn't that be the purpose why Yumi has sex with Jin? What is the purpose of Jin being the one to send the pictures and videos to Haru? For Haru to masturbate in the solitude of his room? Wasn't the purpose of NTS for Haru to be a beast in bed? However, we haven't had any chapter that shows that the couple is using that content to help them, in fact, it's as if this is driving them apart and that the couple seemed much happier watching the old senpai videos and the ones Yumi had recorded with Jin last Christmas. I hope this vacation will help you decide how you want to go on with the story, if you want it to be like the NTS at the beginning, bright and cheerful, or you want it to be like you have been doing lately, a dark and lonely NTS very close to the NTR. Another thing, if you are going to stick with the current format of telling a linear story, unlike how you started this story, then you should include Yumi's thoughts, she is the one in control of the relationship and the most interesting one too, currently Haru is not attractive at all, and as for the Nakadashi theme, there are still many things the couple has to try before they reach that point of no return(sex with different men, threesomes, gangbangs, outdoor sex, bdsm, and many more things). The Nakadashi you should leave them for the time when this couple is stable, more mature and really know what they want, please don't ruin the characters just to satisfy a group of people, don't tarnish your story. I hope you have a happy new year ヾ(^▽^*)))

Ismael

2022-12-31 07:03:37 +0000 UTC

My turn to write an essay. First of all, happy new year! I don't know if people realize it, but not many artists can deliver as much as you did during the year. You deserve a rest. Seriously. As many people said before, the most important is drawing what you want to draw. Yumi and Haru are actually characters that I want to follow. I did not continue reading because I wanted them to do what I wanted them to do, but to see what they would do. I did not anticipate the Yura storyline (actually, I did not anticipate the spin-off to have any storyline at all, only teases now and then), but that turned out to be an interesting development. Drawing to please people will always lead to either burnout on your part (because there is no creative drive anymore) or a destruction of their character. I'm, personally, happy with Part 2 (True). I mean, it's Christmas. Come on, it's ok to have a lovey-dovey chapter. Still, I can understand some disappointement depending on what people expect out of the story. This work has clearly been advertised as (light) NTS. If people expect NTR, outside of the IF and delusion chapters, I think it's on them. This is not what the story is about, and (hopefully) it will never reach this stage. It will always be between pure love and NTS. I assume most people were not wishing for an NTR chapter, but more an escalation in the NTS play (similar to how the Yura-Jin relationship progressed over the year). Especially because Part 1 ended on such a cliffhanger (well done, btw). It could feel a little disappointing to immediatly deflate the tension in Part 2. If Jin had been there (even just for Haru to say: "get out, Yumi's mine") or Yumi had pre-recorded a discussion with Jin (with Haru "eavesdropping") or teased Haru on whether or not she actually did have sex with the "condom", I wonder what the reaction would have been. (Basically, keeping some of the tension for a little while longer or leaving it "up to your imagination") Also, the resolution could feel similar to how the main story ended (Haru overcoming his fetish), so there is no "progress" on this part either. Then again, time is finite and the chapter needed to be done before the end of the year. All in all, this clearly shows that Yumi (and NT00) knows how to tease Haru (and the reader). What interested me in the story was Yumi. She wants a pure love story with Haru but is also ready to satisfy his fantasies, with her own personal limits. One of those limits is "raw sex is only for Haru". The others are... more vague. On the other hand, Haru is the one with the NTR delusions and needs to be kept in check, or else... The main story was about Haru and Yumi finally getting together: Haru growing a spine and knowing he can (and has to) overcome his fantasies. So, to me, the spin-off is about exploring Harus's fantasies, Yumi willingly reaching her limits (and their relationship's) and then teasing Haru about going past them. And that's the limit with the ever escalating situation, as Yumi will not fall and has clear limits, so making it believable that she might actually cross them is hard. Adding Yura was a good idea (as she may have different limits than Yumi). The "condom" as well. Regarding the IF chapters, to me, it shows a "Yumi" that is not Yumi. It works for one-offs but not as a full parallel story, as it greatly diminishes Yumi's character. But as I said above, if it's something you want to pursue, why not? Maybe something interesing could develop. But if it's to satisfy people who want to see NTR in every work, I don't think it's worth it. I also vote for a Yumi POV from time to time. It could help explore other areas of their relationship, without feeling the need to escalate things everytime. tl;dr: Thanks for all the hard work. Take care and have some well deserved rest

Shaïnes

2022-12-31 06:42:47 +0000 UTC

I don't think you have to apologize, this is your story and be confident to tell it

Minky X

2022-12-31 06:41:10 +0000 UTC

As you were said, you are improving your skill to make scenes more sexy and hot, no matter what, I'll keep support you as long as I can. Have a wonderful New year holiday.

Aged

2022-12-31 06:32:49 +0000 UTC

Also wondering, maybe in the future, could considered to add some festival events.(Depends on the region where Yumi & Haru were at.)

Aged

2022-12-31 06:28:03 +0000 UTC

NT00 is the the only artist I ever subscribed to or even follow. It’s crazy how I got hooked on this manga. I’m not even a big fan of NTR type stuff

Ruthless

2022-12-31 06:26:51 +0000 UTC

Thank you for another Christmas event this year, loving it.

Aged

2022-12-31 06:24:58 +0000 UTC

The better argument until now.!

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 06:13:06 +0000 UTC

First of all I want to wish you, NT00 and everyone else a happy new year!! I just want to say don’t get too discouraged or feel like you let people down with the last few episodes. I feel like when you become too conscious of what people think, it’s the changes the dynamics of your story. You can’t please everyone. I wish we can get more Yumi POV because I would love to know what is going through her mind doing all these things. I think the pure love and the IFs/delusions are fine the way they are. It’s sort of like alternate reality or like rpg game where you can get back save point and choose a different option. But overall you got everyone engaged and anxious to see how their story plays at the end.

Ruthless

2022-12-31 06:07:13 +0000 UTC

Ok but she knows and knows him and can pressure him in other ways, she knows that he enjoys it but he is also afraid of losing her and that's why in the canon version he hasn't taken the final step yet, so like I did I see, she's the one in control, it's easy to look at him when it's ALL her fault for doing the wrong thing from the start, he was a normal person when she met him, and he played along until he got to stay with her. He, if she herself said before starting that everything was wrong, why start over? Beyond all that, you have to think that this entire IF route is mostly happening in Haru's head, we don't really know how she feels, which we did know before, and that is why I stand firm that Haru is the one who suffers the most because he thinks she likes being a bitch and is constantly playing along because he thinks she likes him too even though every time she walks by he feels his heart explode between the feeling of excitement and the fear of losing her.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 06:05:44 +0000 UTC

It's both their fault. Yumi's for going overboard to please and "cure" Haru, but at least she's not doing it selfishly. She's even too little selfish. Haru's being incredibly selfish and cowardly on the other hand by putting all responsibility on Yumi and simply enjoying whatever benefits he gets out of his relationship with her. She on the other hand doesn't get anything she wanted out of it.

Sir Suntar

2022-12-31 05:46:48 +0000 UTC

Yes, but as I already mentioned... Haru didn't ask him to do it and we know she does it to please him, but is it okay for her to do it? In Haru's head he keeps thinking that she likes to be like that and the problem is that no one decides to stop doing it, so whose fault is it?

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 05:37:07 +0000 UTC

Haru is definitely the one harming Yumi in this scenario. I still think this IF route should not be used unless to provide a very hot alternative to a scene. Yumi deserves better. She is an amazing character, and she already did so much. Haru being a man who finally protects her feeling would be the best outcome, that can still be hot and also it does not need creampie or raw sex to be sexy.

Aiboru974

2022-12-31 05:26:44 +0000 UTC

Yes, but you are also forgetting something and that is that Haru never asked her to sleep with Jin, he never asked her for anything, She propose start the NTS game, only for the curtain game, he asked for something in return, it was all Yumi's idea to satisfy him, she can stop whenever she wants, no she is forced to do it and Haru did not ask her either, it is true that he "wins" but he has always followed the game with fear, because he knows that there will always be a possibility of losing her, he must do his part, mature and realize that she made a mistake by proposing the game and he was carried away by his fetish, so they are both suffering internally but due to their bad head they are not advancing as I always say, we have to be consistent and above all fair.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 05:26:39 +0000 UTC

You are doing great! My only concern in making the IF it’s own route is if you prioritize it OR if you can’t make other new IF’s because you have to continue it OR if it becomes too much to handle to follow so many different paths. Please be sensible about your health and understand that pure love is the true path and anything else is secondary and extraneous! * I literally became a subscriber just to tell you that, stay strong and rest up Sensei

LancelotDeLuLac

2022-12-31 05:23:29 +0000 UTC

NIeRFFx

2022-12-31 04:38:44 +0000 UTC

어느 작품에서든 합리적인 비판은 필요 합니다 작가의 말에 있듯이 분량부족도 있으며 댓글에 수시로 나오지만 질싸빌드업 만이 문제가 아니에요 사실 질싸빌드업도 그냥 NTR 좋아하는 독자들 통수치려고 한거로 보이네요. 원래 이런 장르에서는 독자들을 통수치는 전개도 많이 나오니까요

2022-12-31 04:36:36 +0000 UTC

Yeah, I was completely expecting Sena's reason for being added to Haru and Yumi's relationship to be being NTRd by Senpai. Gives the NTR-lovers some food, let's Haru learn about the dangers of his fetish first hand all without compromising Yumi

Sir Suntar

2022-12-31 04:25:27 +0000 UTC

어떻게 되든 간에 작가님이 구독자들에게 휘둘려서 스토리를 전개하지만 않았으면 합니다. 구독자들의 요구를 다 들어줄 수 없으므로 작가님의 스토리로 밀고 나가는게 맞다고 생각합니다.

dkdkdkow

2022-12-31 04:20:31 +0000 UTC

Personally I dislike the notion of a route split, and just leave the IF as it was intended for NTR. Pure love+NTS feels way more fitting to their characters. As expected this IF felt generic and not Yumi or even Yura like after all the character building of both personas. Though in the end, you cant satisfy everyone and best to just stick to your own plan for the story. Regardless of future story directions, I only hope that NT00 would revisit old events and draw more canon/main story (NTS, not NTR) related hot and varied scenes for them because the art is one of NT00 strongest (selling) points. Take care

StefML

2022-12-31 04:18:59 +0000 UTC

Happy New Year!

mintchooco000

2022-12-31 04:18:41 +0000 UTC

Ufff No One say better.!

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 04:16:50 +0000 UTC

I thinking looking at this from the intention of the story then isn't it a big success? If you keep us wondering whether Yumi/Haru are going to let it go too far, some people will develop certain hopes for how the story will progress. It's a shame some of them feel too strongly about their expectations, but at the same time it just shows how interested they are in the outcome. I think you've been doing great.

Appriser

2022-12-31 04:16:10 +0000 UTC

Maybe, we dont know.!

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 04:13:40 +0000 UTC

전 딱히 페이크라고 생각치 않아서요. 호불호는 갈릴만하다고 봅니다. 지금 스토리들에 만족하고 있어서 그런지 비판의 필요성은 못느끼고 있습니다.

doru

2022-12-31 04:11:37 +0000 UTC

衆口調え難し

Deikun

2022-12-31 04:06:38 +0000 UTC

유미는 순애 인정.. 근데 유라는 아니라고봄. 뭐든지 할 수 있는게 유라 설정인데.. ㅠ

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-12-31 04:02:36 +0000 UTC

I'm going to try to be respectful with my comments but WTF I just saw, Oh my god... I feel like I was watching a work by Terasu, Laliberte or something similar what the heck.!!! There are many paths and ways to develop a relationship like the one they have but this is not Yumi being extreme to get Haru cured of her condition, this is Yumi (Yura) being a complete prostitute, I hope I NEVER see anything like this in the canon route I must say that I am a lover of NTR but this work was not about that, what would follow then after this? Orgies with Jin and sempai? Pregnancy and what did I do? omg even by my NTR standards this was too much. I don't expect vanilla, but this is seriously too much, I think that from now on you have to think very well how to use the bait and the cliffhanger, a lot of hype and that was what caused the general annoyance. I think you have to maintain a balance and not go to either extreme and if in the end the couple is destined to be together leave the pure vanilla for the conclusion, I honestly think that a middle path developing the love story and continuing to spice it up leaves more space for development, with this I will get bored by the third episode because I will surely say, I have already seen this elsewhere. I hope that the NT00 master can rest, don't worry about the live2D, I prefer that you clear your mind and come up with fresh and innovative ideas for the future. Thank you for all the hard work and what you have given us so far.

Mysterious Quote

2022-12-31 03:59:27 +0000 UTC

Happy new year! Both routes are good! I love your stories and your art, so hopefully you don't feel too down and can keep up the amazing work once you return. Don't overwork yourself and I think you don't need to worry about the quantity.

Emer

2022-12-31 03:52:54 +0000 UTC

Yes. I think the introduction of new characters (I like the swingers couple idea) was most likely needed to offer a new and fresh experience the characters and readers for Part 2 while not making feel too NTR at all. Nevertheless, it is what it is but it would be cool if Nt00 drew some inspiration from some of the comments here or made polls/brainstorming threads that could maybe help them with the writing process or give ideas.

만족

SOAO

2022-12-31 03:16:13 +0000 UTC

To be honest I love this IF a lot, and I do think it would be better if this is canon and continues. It is like you said, NTR and pure love can coexist. She might let other man(or men) creampie her, but that doesn't mean the relationship between her and Haru is broken. They can love each other while enjoying NTR. I genuinely want to see the continuation of this IF route. Then again I have no real complaints on the True end. It's a beautiful episode too. Happy new year. Hope you can take the rest you need and stay healthy.

Fung

2022-12-31 03:16:13 +0000 UTC

Yes the goal was to put Haru and The readers in the same position of: will Yumi do it or not ? And It worked everybody got so worked up haha. But I think it s also good to change direction. I don t think thé If route is the way though. But Iwould prefer a Yumi s route. Where we see how she sees the situation and we could revisit some of the very hot sex scenes with more positions and more answers.

Aiboru974

2022-12-31 03:13:53 +0000 UTC

메인스토리까지 꼭 네토라세로 엔딩내야 속이 풀리는 사람들은 신경쓰지마세요.. IF면 충분하고 애초에 이 시리즈는 Sir Suntar님의 말처럼 love+netorase 라서 좋은거지 netorase만 남으면 솔직히 보통 다른 ntr물들(특히 정신을 매우 피폐하게 만드는)이랑 다를게 없어요.. 그랬으면 후원까지 할 생각이 드는 작품이 됐으리라곤 생각치 않습니다. 새해 복 많이 받으시고 푹 쉬십쇼. 작가님 소신대로 가주셔요.

doru

2022-12-31 03:10:40 +0000 UTC

애초에 유미는 본편부터 하루를 위해서 플레이를 해온건데 NTR루트로 가버리면 하루가 붕떠버리죠 순애가 있어야 NTR이 더 흥미진진하다고 생각하고 애초에 이번편처럼 1부때부터 순애 막간에 if로 NTR루트를 보여주셨었는데 그게 더 근본에 가깝지 않나 생각해봅니다. 너무 여론신경안쓰시고 본인스타일대로 연재해주셨으면 좋겠습니다. 새해 복 많이 받으시고 항상 응원합니다.

weed

2022-12-31 03:09:44 +0000 UTC

It's his own fault though. He told everyone it would be light hearted netorase, but instead of having Haru and Yumi learn from their mistakes and start talking to each other like about Haru's fetish and Yumi's boundaries he's just constantly NTR-baiting and has them return to their characters before they became a couple. In this IF Yumi just made the same mistake again she beat herself up over at the end of part 1: not talking to Haru openly about what they want. There's enough ways to escalate netorase without creampie or Yumi humiliating Haru. He didn't do that, NT00 kept NTR-baiting.

Sir Suntar

2022-12-31 03:08:20 +0000 UTC

무리하지 마세요! 실망하는 분들도 계시겠지만 NT00 선생님의 글 덕분에 많은 분들이 이 작품을 좋아해 주셨어요. 그것이 최선이라고 생각한다면 IF 경로를 계속하되 원하는 이야기를 들려주세요!

steveyolo80

2022-12-31 03:04:16 +0000 UTC

I think create storyline for IF is a great idea but don't work too hard sensei. Good luck and Happy new year.

Ireul

2022-12-31 03:02:24 +0000 UTC

최근에 개인적인 문제로 많은 창작자들을 정리하면서도 계속 지원 중입니다. 저는 가끔 전개속도나 방향이 좀 어긋나도 그게 모두가 좋다면 감수하고 그게 안되면 조용히 이탈하고 마는 성격이라 전개가 지원자들을 훈계하거나 다수가 이건 아니라는 형태만 아니면 그대로 가고 싶네요. 변이 구구절절 장황하지 않고 필요한 이야기만 하시는 것도 맘에 듭니다. 새해에 지친 심신 충전하시고, 고민도 떨치고 오시길 바랍니다.

Archbald7

2022-12-31 02:54:35 +0000 UTC

Yeah, with this chapter Yumi just completely betrayed her entire character that was built up so far. Everything on this path isn't the Yumi we knew anymore. I'm not interested in this Yura, I like Yumi.

Sir Suntar

2022-12-31 02:53:57 +0000 UTC

In all honesty, they should just take the story in a direction they want/desire otherwise it is very likely that they will burnout, which I assume is kind of the case already. Because now I feel this 'diverging' path will only add more confusion, on a story that doesn't necessarily have a normal plot outline/structure.

Really Willy

2022-12-31 02:53:33 +0000 UTC

I feel bad for Nt00, they must be under a ton of pressure to consistently produce something satisfactory to their readers but that's practically impossible because the audience is so split on where they want to the story to head towards. Some want full on development of NTR, others NTS and others just want the romance progression. It's an impossible scenario to please everyone or no one, and can get very overwhelming.

Really Willy

2022-12-31 02:53:12 +0000 UTC

Well, that was hot. I think a route split was the right decision. However, I hope we'll still get some netorase on the pure love site from Yumi. That's what made this series so great, the love+netorase. I hope you don't go full humiliation-NTR, but with this as a start, I'm not hopeful. Will probabyl ignore the If-route, and stop with the true-route, if all netorase happens on the dark path. It was good while it lasted though. But this will probabyl ruin it for me.

Sir Suntar

2022-12-31 02:51:26 +0000 UTC

본편에 집중하는게 제일 좋은듯요.. live2d는 있으면 좋지만 없어도 괜찮다고 생각하는 사람 중 1인이라..

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-12-31 02:50:50 +0000 UTC

Yumi seriously cuckholding Haru as a form of teasing but also punition for him to be a coward. If you want to go this route you can, but is it really Yumi? It s hot don t get me wrong but then the story is everyfucking hentai in the world…

Aiboru974

2022-12-31 02:49:31 +0000 UTC

Please don't stop with the happy ending for Haru and Yumi as that's what got me into the story and I really enjoyed part 2(true). I hope that you enjoy your break and get the rest you need. Also I'm a little lost is this if story going to continue and is the pure love story over cause the love story interests me a lot. The also in the if story would that get rid of the love that Yumi has for Haru?

Waterdwellar

2022-12-31 02:48:47 +0000 UTC

So the if story will continue？

userd114

2022-12-31 02:47:56 +0000 UTC

LK가 live2d제작에 빠지게 되면서 이런점은 예상했습니다 씬 한컷의 질은 수직 상승 하였지만 lk의 하차로 인해 live2d를 혼자 제작하게 되면서 필연적으로 발생한 문제 입니다 차라리 live2d제작을 포기하고 플랜을 낮추고 본편에만 집중하는게 제일 좋을 거 같습니다

2022-12-31 02:44:24 +0000 UTC

작가님 그냥 쥐고흔들려는사람들 말 듣지마세요 작가님 소신대로가세요 순애는 본편으로 하고있는데 그리고 ntr 원하는분들은 if 스토리 하고있는데 본편에서 ntr 안나온다고 쥐고흔들려고 하는사람 무시하세요

Hwimi ᄉ

2022-12-31 02:44:18 +0000 UTC

작가님 재충전하고 좋은모습으로 돌아오십쇼 좋았습니다

런 쿠

2022-12-31 02:42:59 +0000 UTC

Happy New Year. Thanks for this chapter! Rest well and think about the future. I think even if some people are disappointed because of the hype, even more people would be disappointed if you tell a story you don t want to tell just to please people. Have a great rest! And come back with something that pleases you first. That how everybody got hooked

Aiboru974

2022-12-31 02:41:16 +0000 UTC

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Comments

In NTR I Always see myself as the bull(stealer) so Jin winning is preferable to me. I still like her ending up with main guy tho.

Is there a way to get a message that you can't write here?

???? What history? Where?

Hey bro, look at the story of "Fanmade". Rather that's a much more convincing story lol He did this in a short period of time with his existing assets. Without a hole in the story.

Umm… maybe but what else can you do beyond giving an opinion, waiting, having faith that something will change or improve? It's up to you to continue, but what I don't recommend is to continue doing something that you don't enjoy.

If there's no change in the number of subscribers anyway, the writer would think that our opinion is just a crap. Even if you guys don't see to this story, There's a lot of people to see. So get lost. might already think like this. hahaha

Thank you for your kind reply every time. bro

lol but, you have to wait almost until March, since maybe he will most likely start drawing at the beginning of February, so you just have to be patient.

Agree.!

The translation isn't perfect, so it's hard for me to understand what you're saying exactly, but David Sanchez, I'm glad you feel the same way.

한 번에 글을 적고 나서 읽어보면서 수정해서 그렇습니다 ^^;

근데 어제 말한 2번에서 정신적으로 다중인격 개념이라고 적어놓으셨던데 그건 지우셨네요? 그말을 적어놓으셔서 설명했던건데?

파이즈리만 해주고 끝내진 않았을테니까 아직 뭐가 더 있을 거 같긴 해요 그림체가 좋아서 본편부터 지금까지 구독해서 봤었는데 개연성보다는 전개속도가 너무 느린게 문제라고 생각드네요

bin님이 바라는건 이제 IF에서 나올만 한데요? 스토리는 망가진게 맞아요 다들 얘기하는데 스토리, 개연성, 캐릭터성도 이상해지고 있다고.. 개인 취향이라기엔 다들 망가졌다 얘기 나오는거 보면 취향도 적당히 해야 취향임..

Just let him write what he want to write, don’t put too much pressure on him.

Yes I see what you mean, just telling ok, I m sticking to the original formula or I m going to do something more twisted. And let people decides.

두마리 토끼 다잡으려다가 줄초상났네

솔직히 빡칠만 해서 이해는 가죠

댓글이 엄청나네 외국인들 까지 이렇게 참전 할 정도면 와서 그 동안 얼마나 참았단 거야. 진짜 분기점이다 분기점..... 앞으로 어떻게 되려나

I see what you mean. And if Nt00 wants to draw that it s all fine I just don t find it working in the story so far! And Also don t see Jin do all of that haha I was just saying the typical blackmail NTR stuff. Just in this case Yumi is blackmailing herself

ㄴㄴ 여기서도 중요한 부분은 확인할 수 있음 나사녀 본편 30-2에 read me파일 있는데 거기서 망상편 추가한 완전판 내놓겠다고 하고 그거 올린지 얼마후 notice 편에서 완전판 미정이라고 하고 그 대신 매월 if루트 올리겠다고 했음

I just noticed in the If part, the last page where you see Yumi, she looks so sad…

If you create a fanfic please share it with us.

작가가 했던 약속 같은 것들을 찾아 보려고 했는데 없네요, 트위터랑 판티아까진 찾아 봤는데 그런 말을 어디서 했는지 혹시 알려주실 수 있을까요? 한번 몰아서 보고 싶은데.... 남겨두면 불리해서 지운건가?....

I look forward to seeing NT00 stories continue but do the continuing of both stories the pure love and ntr stories seeing where u see it going cause I am sure most people here would like to see both versions of your storyline NT00

좋은 거 기대합니다

그거 겁나 잘만들었던데 대단해요 ㅋㅋㅋ 본편보다 더 꼴릿했습니다 특히 중국에서 만든거는 너무 정밀해서 여기 말고 다른데다 푼건가 싶었어요 본편 크리스마스 파트 활용해서 저도 만들어 볼까 생각중이에요 ㅋㅋㅋ

NT00さん、明けましておめでとうございます！ 十分な休息をとってください。 私はあなたの本が大好きです

Live 2d를 파이즈리씬과 교배프레스씬 둘다 내놓으면 민심정리 가능할 거 같네요 다만 작가님의 컨디션상 불가능 할 것 같습니다

Opinions can be lost in a sea of comments. Leave a like here if you loved the IF version and want the author to know it 💞💕💞

in viewpoint i like it, people's tastes vary

작가님 새해복 많이 받으세요! 앞으로도 기대하겠습니다!

ntr이 문제가 아니라 너무 부실함

Hopeful for more Yumi POV too!

失望なんてとんでもない、どうか先生の心の赴くままに描いてください。今年も沢山の素晴らしい作品をありがとうございました！！ とにかくお身体を大切に、来年が良い年でありますように！

really disappointed with the camera angle of this. we dont get to see any kissing or yumi in her santa costume getting it on

I totally agree with this mate

I wanted to thank you again for the translation advice. *insert Thanos meme* I did it myself between deepl and google trad I found what I think is the right traduction.

yes that's what I'm afraid of. I dont want Nt00 to drive himself crazy trying to cater to everyone needs. he should write it the way he wants to do it. Of course the feedback is good to take into consideration but at the end of the day , it should be his own idea.

저랑 반대시네요. 전 선배가 나오면 안보고, 호진이랑 유라가 나오면 봄..ㅎㅎ 선배는 제 취향이 아니라서.. ㅠㅠ

If you want me to read IF that is a Route NTR that doesn't actually happen. I think it's better not to draw it.

Everyone hates it's NTR but still reads it because it's NTR. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

true,dud

Ismael, yeah you're right. I think that would get out of hand. Nt00 going to make things more complicated then it needs to be. which would put more stress on himself to make all the ifs and story make sense. I think this story needs an ended sooner than later.

I really enjoy how your story goes. IF Route provides different people with different stories. And we all enjoy it. You have my full support and wish you good health and happiness.

David, yes I agree with you. having a fetish is all good and all but what's the point if you take it too far and lose the love your life. Haru needs to man up more often and just love yumi.

MP4 は二月に投稿する方がいいと思います。PSDを終わって、たっぷり休んでください。私は大ファンとしての考えを後で書きます。私からも明けましておめでとうございます。

I was translating the txt with google but some of it isn't right. Thanks for the tips I'll try deepl too

David, I totally agree, it really left a bad taste in my mouth this chapter, the only good thing was that Yumi looks really erotic, but Yumi is erotic whether it's in NTS, NTR or Vanilla, so yeah, bad chapter :c

That is exactly my point but they make it look like he is taking advantage, when clearly he never asked for anything that is happening. Haru is not a victim, but his only mistake is being a coward.

The problem is that they wanted it in the canon route because the IFs are not enough.

유미와 유라는 같은 사람이고, 유라의 창조 목적은 하루를 속이고 동의 없이 무언가를 하는 것이 아니라 무언가를 만들어 하루에게 보여주기 위한 것입니다. 👎🏼

Yeah we need Yumi POV too. I always loved these parts.

I'm guessing we need to wait for the PSD's to get a good edited EN translation. Anyone knows where/how you can get that ?

Aiboru974, she plays a part of his fetish. she's the one that got him into it. Haru never clearly states what he wants its always yumi bring up ideas and asking Haru if he wants that. sometimes he gives a straight answer and sometimes he just hesitates

NT00さん、明けましておめでとうございます！十分な休息をとってください。私はあなたの本が大好きです

失望なんてとんでもない、どうか先生の心の赴くままに描いてください。今年も沢山の素晴らしい作品をありがとうございました！！とにかくお身体を大切に、来年が良い年でありますように！

I wanted to thank you again for the translation advice. insert Thanos meme I did it myself between deepl and google trad I found what I think is the right traduction.