The Primeleap Poll!
Added 2020-02-11 22:09:28 +0000 UTCI have a lot planned for this year, and so I could really use your feedback here. If you could also explain your awnser after voting that would be great! Thank you guys!
This poll is regarding PrimeLeap, the website I use to host my animations in a gallery form rather than Patreons tower form. But it also requires an account needing to be created, and there have been issues with account creation and linking.
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Just post your stuff on Myspace. They don't monitor anything that's posted, theres no point its not like the population on 15 people a month have much of a chance in finding it. PS like this if you ever had a Myspace.
Anthony
2020-02-20 12:01:38 +0000 UTCI think PrimeLeap is VERY annoying to use and navigate. Damn near broke my PC trying to access your content. Direct links are preferred.
2020-02-20 05:10:03 +0000 UTCI have no strong feelings about it. But PrimeLeep does make it easier to find the media all in one place, rather than scrolling down through Patreon's Pages of posted content. So for that alone, I feel it's probably worth keeping.
GFHCDK76
2020-02-20 03:48:28 +0000 UTCyeah i also prefer just an direct link, cause i dont really use primeleap that much. for the less accounts i have to make the better, cause it isn't that easy to keep track on each and every accounts, and after a while it starts to give you an headache. well that is for me that has an really bad memory.
Zerry7071
2020-02-19 06:51:16 +0000 UTCi had some issues with my account on primeleap
Francesco Morgante
2020-02-19 02:21:25 +0000 UTCIt's fine viewing it on PrimeLeap, but I'd rather just have a direct link, maybe cos it sounds easier to view,
GOONRO
2020-02-16 20:41:28 +0000 UTCI don't like PrimeLeap and it was very janky signing up. However I've had no issues at all since then, so I've assumed that whatever problem they had is now resolved. My vote was to keep things as they are, because I know nothing new will break so long as it's all left as it is.
Minus Underscore
2020-02-16 16:00:57 +0000 UTCWhen I was creating the account on prime leap it was a bit frustrating to get it linked up but afterwords I havent had issues. I mostly will just take what gives the highest quality downloads
jonathan mathews
2020-02-14 19:49:54 +0000 UTCI like the concept, as the layout is nice, but as others have said, it's another hoop to jump through. I don't like giving more sites my personal information. Especially sites that have information about the NSFW content I subscribe to. It's more chance of data being leaked, and I much prefer not to give more people my data. My thoughts are "why not both"? Host the content on Patreon, but also post to PrimeLeap? It'll require a little more work, sure. But it should be a good middle ground that doesn't cause issues for multiple users. At the end of the day, I love your content, and I plan on staying a Patreon no matter what you decide, but PrimeLeap is more of a hindrance, IMHO. Thanks for putting it to us to vote on, though. It's nice to have the option to vote on it, and be able to give our opinions.
WispTheHusky
2020-02-14 12:36:44 +0000 UTCI think PrimeLeap is a "decent" but not overly good way to view historical archives for new members. A lot of other patrons I back just host their archives on mega or dropbox or don't even have historical archives. For people following your content on patron regularly, it simply represents another hoop to jump through to access your work. I get a notification in my email, have to click over to here, then click over to primeleap, then log in again... it's not great.
Latency
2020-02-13 19:59:54 +0000 UTCPersonally I'd prefer you start trying to phaze out Patreon completely. They're becoming more and more of a bad site for content creators like yourself.
Andrew Smith
2020-02-13 10:51:15 +0000 UTCI very much prefer PrimeLeap. Much cleaner and easier to navigate/use in my opinion
Zefer
2020-02-12 22:35:22 +0000 UTCPrimeLeap fights me every time. most times i just need to give up and try the next day. Still don't know why it works after 24 hours. but you are the only reason I'm on PrimeLeap at all.
TimberPen
2020-02-12 21:36:49 +0000 UTCI prefer direct links cuz patreon has up dated it's stuff so you can tag it and I can find all of your stuff related to that tag I'm also down for the site but till they get that log in crap down it can take me a good bit of time to see your stuff cuz I have to log in multiple times due to being on Mobile
Dragon
2020-02-12 17:24:57 +0000 UTCPrimeLeap is not worth it as a gallery. PrimeLeap's primary function is as a form of DRM. I am reflexively against DRM, because it is never going to lock down content in the way people want (or believe). DRM functions (at best!) as a time-delay to full release, no more and no less--and then it just gets in the way after that. If you feel the need to keep your work on lockdown, then you should keep PrimeLeap (and stop posting things to Discord) and use PrimeLeap's tracking functions to pursue legal action. But that will lose you fans and change your reputation to some unknown degree. If you need a safe place to archive finished work and make it accessible, that can be arranged. (It's what I do for a living.) If you need a way to gallery-ize it, there are many templates to choose from--you could pick something you like best for presenting your work--and then it's just a matter of finding somebody who understands how to put the template together with the content and then maintain the resulting website. And there's certainly people out there who know how to do that, me included. Perhaps the best suggestion, IMO, would be to sit down with knowledgeable folks and work out what would be best for you. There's a cost-benefit analysis to be done--Patreon probably isn't the answer, direct links alone probably isn't the answer, PrimeLeap may not be the best answer either. But it will all depend on where all the competing priorities come to a balance you personally are comfortable with.
Rex Wolf
2020-02-12 15:09:03 +0000 UTCWhat is your prime goal using this service in the first place? If it is, to secure your content from beeing pirated, this won't really help. It just more inconvinient to do, which usually doesn't stop the people doing it. If it's for a clean display, nice ordering etc. I would suggest to make your own. Today, creating one isn't hard at all, tons of tutorials. Also if hosted by yourself, you don't need to follow rules other than what the country you're in puts on you. Cons of course are, maintenance, security and updating... If you don't want this, then yeah suggest you either keep PrimeLeap or any other for this matter. I never had problems till now
Kiruzune
2020-02-12 12:46:21 +0000 UTCI tried to log in/sync with my patreon account and it'll work at some point and other time it won't and when I do log in, the animations would take up around a hour or 2 to start.
A2zero
2020-02-12 07:59:08 +0000 UTCI've had no issues logging on to primeleap, however I usually have to view the animations in video format since for whatever reason the scene selection doesn't work for me. Honestly though whatever works best for you, and everyone else seems to have the same sort of thoughts.
A-A-ron
2020-02-12 07:26:17 +0000 UTCOnce the account is created, I haven't had any problems! I like the fact that I can flick through your content in the gallery form, which would undoubtedly be harder to do on the Patreon platform.
2020-02-12 06:21:10 +0000 UTCPatreon can be tedious to find stuff. Prime leap is easier after these initial set up
Steve
2020-02-12 04:28:55 +0000 UTCHaving all the content organised and easily accessible in 1 location/gallery is what I always want. Primeleap when it isn't down or being temperamental is great. I've seen some use Patreon's tower which I dislike as you need to always search and dig through multiple posts. Dropbox and MEGA with/without passwords I've seen work alright but it makes content easy for people to copy and repost.
Paul West
2020-02-12 04:14:17 +0000 UTCI don't have a problem with Primeleap in general, but I also don't see a real benefit for users (not creators). Biggest issue I have with it is that you can't download folders or something like that, you need to download all one by one. But if Primeleap works for artist then its ok I think.
QuantumAge
2020-02-12 03:23:03 +0000 UTCI always appreciated Primeleap, but the only problem i encounter with it is when i try logging in with my phone, otherwise it's very good, maybe android isnt compatible, lol
Gabriel Cannizzo
2020-02-12 01:56:02 +0000 UTCThe biggest problems I have are getting logged in. Once I'm logged in though it's great to have a gallery of all the previous works without having to scroll through Patreons weird endless scrolling thing.
ButteredTorment
2020-02-12 01:33:53 +0000 UTCI often have problems linking and login in, but the interface is easy to navigate. Ups and downs.
Spectyr
2020-02-12 01:26:51 +0000 UTCI mean me personally I have had occasional difficulties with linking my Patroen so I can get access to content, but really I don't really have any strong feelings either way with using PrimeLeep. Though I do agree with GFHCDK76 in it being nice to have everything organized in one spot.
Jak Sharperten
2020-02-12 01:14:22 +0000 UTCAh, that's a shame. I'm a firm believer in giving supporters the benefit of the doubt, in that if your work is what they want in terms of quality, consistency, and content, they will support you regardless- and pirates are pirates who will most likely never support, no matter what protection you think you have. That being said, it's also a shame how easy it is to scrape, and I think lesser creators might have a hard time getting started- whereas it probably doesn't affect already successful creators like Critter nearly as much.
Araphre
2020-02-12 01:10:12 +0000 UTCI'm ok either way, but if I had to choose I'd go with primeleap as it's much easier to access everything rather than endlessly scrolling in Patreon
Apolleo
2020-02-12 00:06:51 +0000 UTCWhat GFHCDK76 said.
Kiran Otter
2020-02-12 00:04:33 +0000 UTCI have no strong feelings about it. But PrimeLeep does make it easier to find the media all in one place, rather than scrolling down through Patreon's Pages of posted content. So for that alone, I feel it's probably worth keeping.
GFHCDK76
2020-02-11 23:52:40 +0000 UTCI voted for the gallery format. I had troubles initially getting the accounts connected, but scrolling through patreon to find a specific video is a lot more tedious than the troubles with primeleap
Mel
2020-02-11 23:49:24 +0000 UTCI always have issues logging in let alone staying logged in. Then it barely loads and has trouble linking. Always loads or refreshes trying to log in and link
Eden Frees
2020-02-11 23:46:00 +0000 UTCPrimeLeep is no such alternative. Hate to say it, but content is not protected there either. The place you partly posted y---.P----. It has things from on PrimeLeep posted there from Critters content, almost as soon as it's available to see on PrimeLeep. So PrimeLeep protects nothing. Also, seeing places like PrimeLeep doesn't offer the protection anyone may think it does, is part why I never gotten into selling video contend anywhere, made by me, for there really is no way to completely protect it from being copied and posted all over the place. O.o
GFHCDK76
2020-02-11 23:45:57 +0000 UTCI've had no issues with prime leap. I love how organized it makes everything, and it works well with mobile devices.
Chumpmonkee
2020-02-11 23:26:37 +0000 UTCI've heard PrimeLeap is a "scam." All I know is it has some problems with logging in and it's another hoop to jump through, but I've never personally had any problems with it. As someone who hopes to be even moderately successful one day on Patreon, I also know it keeps your work from being scraped to places like y---.p----. Critter knows what I'm talking about. But what are the alternatives to PrimeLeap?
Araphre
2020-02-11 23:15:09 +0000 UTCPrimeLeap works for me well enough and it's good that it keeps your content organized and does provide direct links to videos at least in case loading doesn't work. My only issue with it is obviously the loading, especially on mobile browsers. I'd like to be able to use both the videos and interactable versions, so if you can find a more reliable way to keep that rolling then that would be awesome!
fetus deletus
2020-02-11 23:14:21 +0000 UTCThe motive was good. Since patreon has this infinite-scrolling site design which makes people take ages to find what they want and there is no post search fuction. Although about for using Primeleap was good choice or not is, at least for me, negative. The site seems to require re-login each time I access it even if I told it to keep me logged in for a month or so. This means that Primeleap is not using cookie in a efficient way and keep on losing the login token(which if acquired by someone else, could be used to impersonate user's computer against Primeleap), or just made that selection box as an aesthetic and not actually functional.
Knox
2020-02-11 23:12:33 +0000 UTCThere are only two problems I have, I assume it's my PC but It won't load the interactive posts all the way without difficulty and I'm not sure if I see all of your post on there.
christian
2020-02-11 23:04:31 +0000 UTCMy main issue with primeleap is that you can't access it on the puffin mobile browser. And it will not stay logged in.
KiloWolf
2020-02-11 22:42:49 +0000 UTCTo be honest I actually don't mind either way. I'm fine with it being on PrimeLeap, and I'm also fine with having a direct link to the content. Just keep up the great work regardless!
Hunter Kitnooki
2020-02-11 22:37:58 +0000 UTCPrime leap seems nice enough, but I regularly have issues with having to sign back into it and things and it's not the best on mobile. I especially have issues with the interactive video on mobile with prime leap.
KaeganDragon
2020-02-11 22:33:36 +0000 UTCI voted for primeLeap for its nice Gallery. On Patreon here i ahve the Problem that the site takes AGES to load on phone and sometimes also on PC, and that is super annoying from time to time PrimeLeap atleast works in that regard better and i can watch stuff with phone. What i dont like about PrimeLeap is that i need an account there too, a website i dont really trust alot and if that is getting bigger i bet there will be something happening like leaked passwords or such. Yes, Its Good for the Creator in terms of Protection of works, i completly understand that. But for users its mainly a pain to use, yes if you are in the Gallery you are good, for the once session you are logged in, but if you try to load something else it either glitches out, isnt loading properly, or crashes Chrome from time to time.
VexMex
2020-02-11 22:28:11 +0000 UTCSame here
GooFFball 93
2020-02-11 22:27:40 +0000 UTCThe site is worth using, however, the site itself does need some work. Also, it's bothersome to use it on mobile, personally. I don't mind either way. If the site fixed the issues I currently have with it, then I'd say for sure use it.
Epsil Delta
2020-02-11 22:27:13 +0000 UTCIt definitely needs work and is far from perfect but I don’t have a problem with the idea.... especially if it provides some kind of protection to the creators... other then it’s kinda clunky at times I’ve personally never really had any issues with it
Vethrfolnir
2020-02-11 22:21:34 +0000 UTCPersonally haven't had any issues with primeleap. Love a clear gallery layout as well making it pretty easy to find my favourites.
Danny reeves
2020-02-11 22:20:09 +0000 UTCPrime leap is neat, but with how many times it asks me to log in and it is pretty chunky, taking a long time to flip between posts...I'd be just as happy if not happier with just have access to the files here on Patreon.
ArtMutt
2020-02-11 22:18:08 +0000 UTCVoted and commenting. Although it seems like Primeleap has given people a lot of issues when it comes to its account system, I personally have had no problems with its accounts and find that the clean gallery and organisation it provides are quite lovely. HOWEVER, it does need some work. Its UI can feel clunky and it is slow when it comes to loading interactive scenes.
Vy
2020-02-11 22:16:07 +0000 UTCI do agree it has its ups and downs, I had trouble with it with linking when first using it and I had to keep logging it but after a while it did start to work. It would be really handy to have Direct Links to the content mind but if you continue to keeps using it, that's fine by me as long as I can view your content!
Rhys Jones
2020-02-11 22:16:01 +0000 UTCMy only issue with Primeleap is everytime I try to access it I always need to re sync my patreon account, more of just a minor annoyance.
Joseph
2020-02-11 22:14:06 +0000 UTCPrimeleap is a hit or miss as to whether it wants to link to my Patreon or not. When it works, it works. But getting it to can be a toss up some times.
Ryan Hatfield
2020-02-11 22:12:25 +0000 UTCVoted, but also commenting. Primeleap is extraordinarily user-hostile. * It won't stay logged in no matter how long I tell it to stay logged in * the login screen doesn't work well with Safari user/password auto fill * I can't ctrl/cmd+click to open images in new tabs * its slow as heck * ui is awkward and unintuitive
Noxy
2020-02-11 22:11:58 +0000 UTCI like it, or the idea of it, I just wish it was more user friendly. It's constantly having problems linking to my patreon, or at least for me.
Graves
2020-02-11 22:10:48 +0000 UTC