The main reason I am posting this is to direct haters here whenever they attack me for posting "AI slop" instead of writing a whole essay every time. (Though 0% of them will probably even click the link, lol. They don't comment to debate, they comment to hate.)
If the AI argument is all you're here for, skip to the header:
"AI Art / Traditional Artist Supremacy"
Despite growing up in a strictly anti-sexual, religious household, I have been fascinated by sex for as long as I can remember. When I was 7, all by my own curiosity and searching, I discovered porn and started masturbating to it. I remember the specific age because that was the same year my family got a Nintendo Wii. I would search Google for porn of girls my age and be confused to why no results popped up. My browsing history almost got my Dad into huge trouble, but everyone just assumed it came from my teenaged uncle. Everyone in society is expected to believe that nobody my age then would ever seek sexuality on their own, and anyone who says otherwise is automatically labeled as a "child abuser", so they know to keep their mouth shut, only making the narrative seem more real. Of course, I can only speak for myself — I know sexuality is not important to all people that age, but I am proof to myself that the number of people isn't 0. It's 100% impossible to make any sort of estimation because of our extremely anti-sexual society. Any signs of sexuality in anyone under 18 is almost always harshly punished by parents and kept secret.
All throughout elementary school and middle school, I was severely bullied by almost all the students and all of the staff, just for being white. Every single day, I would be harmed physically, called all kinds of insults, receive many death threats, and more. The physical harm was mostly from other students, but one example of staff abuse is — when I was in 3rd grade, a 300lb+ obese recess supervisor put me in a puddle of freezing, muddy slush and sat on me for the whole period. Native school, native police — no help from corrupt, racist cops. Also, at church, I was treated poorly for being too hyper/talkative. This period of my life completely destroyed my in-person sociality; to this day, I am filled with social anxiety and can't even form sentences without tripping all over my words. Sometimes I jokingly tell people that was my "privileged white childhood".
In 2016, I started teaching myself digital art for the purpose of creating hentai of characters I wanted to see hentai of. Eventually, I came to rely on art as my primary source of income. I started drawing what I thought others would want to see instead of what I wanted to draw, making art more of a chore than a passion. I also had a similar problem of forcing myself to keep a schedule of consistent works, making me feel like I was locked to one series when I wanted to draw a character from a different series.
I had the idea that being all-inclusive would make people happy, and with the mindset of "everything has a price", I advertised that, at a higher price, I would draw things that I wouldn't ever decide to draw myself, including extreme themes that absolutely disgust me. Because of this, everyone thought I was a greedy, terrible person — the backlash was severe, since a lot of my community were into content I dislike.
I've always had issues with commission pricing. I never wanted a flat price on my labor, since different works vary in both complexity and my proclivity to do them. When people ask me for a price, I worry if I'd be asking for too little or too much. "What if they were willing to pay more? What if they don't want to commission because the price is too high?" I prefer it when people give the commission details then offer a price; that takes away a lot of self-induced stress, but different factors can still stress me out, such as denying commissions I would normally take while I am burnt out, or gathering the courage to tell the commissioner when their price offer is too low. I like the way Pixiv Request works, but the limitations on it are stupid, thanks to PayPal trying to force their own morality on everyone.
Despite my terrible childhood, I decided that 2019 was the worst year of my life. I thought sharing my obsession with lolis to people in the LGBTQ community would be fine, since they have also gone through severe discrimination prior to their movement. I find most people are "all inclusive" until they find someone they don't already agree with, then they're so fast to dish out the same level of hate and discrimination they were given a decade ago. Also, me being a "straight white male" did NOT help.
I was excluded from every local and many online gaming communities just for alluding to the fact that lolis are important to me, even when there were no signs of sexuality at all. All the excessive hatred I got for expressing what I love most turned me into a very bitter person. I absolutely hated the world. The only reason I didn't kill myself to escape was because of my mindset: "I would kill every other person on this planet before I would kill myself." My self esteem was strong, and while I have often put on a facade to please others, I have not and will not ever let other humans gaslight me.
In 2021, I experienced extraterrestrial contact and went through massive positive changes. During that time, I gave away literally everything I owned except for 2 pairs of clothes and a few electronic devices. I was a hoarder prior, so I probably gave away $10,000+ worth of stuff. This was the time I went on hiatus and set all my FANBOX posts to free for all users. I was planning on leaving to a different planet, but arrangements were delayed. I still plan on leaving as soon as possible.
Later in the year, I rejoined my old Discord server. Some people treated me like I was a schizophrenic quoting random philisophical books after I shared what extraterrestrials taught me about the correlation between positive sex, love energy, and the heart.
One day, I made a lot of people angry after saying "I wish upon artists and commissioners what they have drawn." Many active users basically hated me at that point, so I took my name off the server and left, though a few kept in touch afterwards.
I don't accept the "It's fiction" excuse — Lolis are real and I love them more than anything else in the universe. To put this in perspective, imagine someone praising a very accurate AI generated picture of the people closest to you being tortured, raped, and distressed, then they try to justify it by saying "It's just a picture."
Since society labeled lolicon as morally wrong, it seems to always get lumped in with every extreme category of hentai, and there's tons of people who expect that if lolicon is allowed somewhere, there should be no rules there at all. Now at this point I am scared to even talk to someone online without first screening them.
In 2024, I started playing with AI tools. Now, any time I use it in my workflow, people always parrot the same nasty bandwagon comments like a broken record. "you are greedy and lazy for posting this low-effort AI slop. AI art is soulless." And they have the nerve to say their toxicity is "in defense of artists" to my face. And then they come up with some entirely subjective philosophy on why "traditional digital art can express passion, creativity, emotion, soul, worth and AI art can not."
People who weren't following to begin with even browse AI content on Pixiv for the sole purpose of telling people they unfollowed to try and make them upset, or commenting something far more nasty. You have to manually turn on AI content to even see it on Pixiv. So many toxic people just looking to hurt others.
1. I now produce for me, not to conform to others' ideals. I am continuing to upload my works to share them with people who want to see them. I don't care what random haters think about it.
2. I am not greedy. If FANBOX wasn't my primary source of income, I wouldn't even charge for anything. Once AI gets me free food and shelter, I will no longer need to charge on FANBOX. Everyone who is currently supporting me is very much appreciated!
What IS greedy is when people protest AI because they want to keep a scarcity of high-quality art — less competition so they feel more important. Is the art really what's important to those people, or is it really the fame and money they care about?
3. I am not lazy, nor are my works "low-effort". I spend hours manually correcting each AI image to correct artifacts, proportions, extra limbs, incorrect features, coloring, and other details. Prompting the models properly and getting the settings right to generate anything anywhere near close to decent is also very difficult.
And once the image is perfect, people still have the nerve to call it "slop", as if the word has lost all meaning. AI art is always "too good" but also "not at all". If a perfect image is slop, then what is not? It's like people are just blindly repeating their favorite social media influencer's toxic phrases even in times they are completely nonsensical. At that point, you know everything they say is gonna be completely biased regardless of what points you make. Facts and logic seem to mean nothing to them; they are just looking for someone to hurt.
4. The argument that traditional artists can express passion, creativity, emotion, soul, and worth while anyone who works with AI tools can not is completely erroneous and invalidating of them, and these points are always backed by pure subjective philosophy that have absolutely no factual evidence behind them. It is a toxic traditional-artist supremacy.
Going around telling everyone who is passionate about working with AI that all of their work and feelings are invalid is extremely rude. Imagine if people did that to digital artists in "defense of traditional painters". I don't think the art community has ever been as toxic as it is today. The use of AI doesn't diminish a creator's input; it amplifies their ability to bring their vision to life.
5. The most common excuse for all the toxicity is that it is for the sake of artists. Funny how fast I am invalidated and discarded as soon as I, an artist, argues with their script. More evidence that it was never about artists — it is nothing but a bandwagon of hate.
As someone who is passionate about art, I DO NOT enjoy the process of drawing. I enjoy the result. Being able to achieve the same result ten thousand times faster would allow me to hit my production goals without needing to hire others and spend millions of dollars I don't have. AI will open up a whole new world of creativity for everyone. If stroking the canvas is considered creative, then why won't people accept others guiding a machine until it has produced every specific detail they originally envisioned? The will to go through a tedious process is not creativity — it's hard work. But does picking the monotonous method and boycotting more efficient tools make you a harder worker? No. There will be plenty of people like myself who will spend just as much, if not even more time producing high-quality content with the assistance of AI. Artificial Intelligence is a creative superpower, NOT a creativity killer. Just like an artist might use Photoshop or a filmmaker might use CGI, AI is another tool that complements human creativity.
Many people have a story to tell, scenes they have always wanted to see on screen, but almost none of them have the resources to bring their imagination to life. There's a reason producing a single episode of anime averages between $100k and $500k USD. Most often, the only people with that kind of money to spend are big studios limited by mandatory censorship. If anyone else TRULY enjoys stroking the canvas all day, AI art will never interfere with that passion, no matter how advanced AI becomes. However, when it comes to financial opportunities and recognition, competition starts becoming a problem for many people. AI art levels the playing field, enabling individuals without formal artistic training or expensive resources to express themselves visually.
AI art is not about replacing humans; it's about enhancing collaboration between human creativity and machine efficiency. Art's value comes from the emotions it evokes and the stories it tells. A drawing, photograph, or AI-generated artwork is meaningful because of its impact on the audience, not merely because of how it was made. As much as bandwagon riders might hate it, plenty of people enjoy art that is AI generated.
In the 15th century, people feared the invention of the printing press would devalue the art of handwriting. In the 19th century, when cameras became widely available, people feared photography would render painting obsolete. In the 20th century, when synthesizers and electronic music tools emerged, many feared they would replace traditional instruments and devalue the skill of playing them. And when video games were invented, many parents were concerned that traditional forms of play, such as sports or board games, would become irrelevant. In 1997, after chess-playing computer, Deep Blue, defeated Garry Kasparov, people feared that machines would ruin human chess as a competitive and intellectual pursuit. The invention of digital painting software led to concerns that traditional media like painting and drawing would be abandoned. And now, people fear that AI generated art will render traditional artists completely irrelevant.
Regardless of what excuses people make to make themselves sound reasonable, people really want to ban AI because it creates competition that they "can't beat". Imagine if they banned cars in the 1800s just so horse breeders wouldn't lose business. Instead of trying to tear down towers that others are building just because they will potentially grow bigger than their own, why don't they come up with a solution that doesn't involve sabotaging the progress of others? Whether one "falls behind" because they actually enjoy the process of hand-drawing, or because they flat-out refuse to consider using new tools, adapting to change is necessary. Major studios are gonna have to adapt too. If AI gives individuals the resources to produce studio-level content, then the billions of dollars studios make off of brutally butchering every video game and anime movie they adapt, is gonna come to an end. On top of that, high quality shows will no longer be subject to mandatory studio censorship.
Imagine a world where artificial intelligence reaches a point that most, or all human workers have their jobs "stolen by AI". The productivity of companies would multiply significantly, leading to an overabundance of products and services. And then what? What is the point in having so much supply when there is nobody to sell to, due to nobody having a standard job? People need to look beyond the mindset of "I must work all day every day at a job I hate just to survive. There's absolutely no possible way I could ever be financially supported otherwise." Yeah, I agree, there's currently a lot of greedy people in the market. Why else would there be around 650k homeless individuals in the USA when there's over 16 million vacant houses there? However, there are also currently thousands of non-profit organizations that exist to help people in need, ranging from large national charities to small, local food banks and shelters. Imagine what those people could accomplish if their productivity was significantly multiplied. I believe once labor is completely taken over by software and machines, the most widespread meaning to life will no longer be "Work all day every day just to survive." Everyone will then be able to focus on what they're passionate about rather than worrying about how they're gonna put the next meal on the table.
The argument that AI "steals" art to train its models is based on a misunderstanding of how both humans and machines learn and create. Humans learn to create art by observing and studying the works of others. No artist creates in a vacuum. Every brushstroke, technique, or style an artist uses has roots in what they've seen, studied, or been inspired by. When an artist looks at an artwork, they may internalize the composition, color palette, or techniques, then use those influences to create something entirely new. This process is considered learning, not stealing. Similarly, AI models analyze large datasets of images to understand patterns, styles, and techniques. The models don't store or copy specific artworks — they learn general rules about visual representation. Just as an AI model can replicate a specific style, so can I, as a human artist.
If borrowing stylistic elements is acceptable for humans, it's inconsistent to condemn AI for doing the same.
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