The Vampire Diaries 3x16 Full Length
Added 2025-01-06 23:01:01 +0000 UTC
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no im saying, on paper, it’s not as simple as someone saying “stefan lets the blood control him”. yes he loses control with blood, i think we all agree with that lol.
cece
2025-01-07 02:49:12 +0000 UTCWhen’s he’s the ripper he only thinks about human blood. We saw how in season 1 the blood was changing his personality entirely when he had some. So in some way, it does makes him lose control. They even say this in the episode too.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 02:45:03 +0000 UTCin therapeutic terms, yes. this is something damon said bc he’s trying to help him. it’s not as simple as stefan letting the blood control him, which is another point i was making.
cece
2025-01-07 02:39:23 +0000 UTCAt the end of the day, Stefan lets the blood control him and damon is gonna help him through it this time. That’s the point I’m making overall. I never said it was easy for him at all. Lexi’s approach with animal blood doesn’t work anymore.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 02:32:36 +0000 UTCi think you’re getting confused?? haha i agree with you, i know stefan needs help. i think everyone agrees that he needs help. the focal point of our conversation was about damons involvement & what has or (as you’re stating) hasn’t helped him. you can say it delayed their issue, but for over fifty years, stefan hadn’t hurt anyone and fought strongly everyday against his urges. that in itself prevented him from hurting anyone, and was the only way he knew. is it the most effective or smart way? probably not, but you have to understand that this is stefans only practice that helped him. he doesn’t know moderation, and his sickness deters him from that. no, it’s not effective in the long run as again, in present day, they’re constantly putting up with forces of evil, but stefans way is what he knows and what he’s comfortable with. im not disagreeing with you. im trying to get you to understand that it isn’t that easy for him, nor is it as easy as saying, “he needs learn moderation” (obviously he does) & him drinking animal blood HAS worked. him living off of animal blood all those years didn’t delay the issue, the issue being him going on a binge and killing helpless innocent people, it essentially helped them. now they’re confronting the actual problem in the present, with him needing to learn moderation so it can relieve him of his sickness and blood addiction that has been a problem for him all these years.
cece
2025-01-07 01:37:51 +0000 UTCIt still leads to the same conclusion which is Stefan clearly needs help with moderation because animal blood only delayed the issue he already had. Him drinking animal blood for years and suppressing his urges made his blood issues a lot worse. The point of this epsiode is that damon has to do the tough love solution to help him out of this. Stefan’s method isn’t effective, it just delayed the inevitable.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 00:57:43 +0000 UTCit hasn’t worked in the present because they’re evidently in the now where they’re constantly fighting forces of evil, and stefans wanting to protect the person he loves, essentially a fragile human being who can easily die. it “has” worked, that’s past tense, which is what i said. and it worked for a very long time. im saying how it’s hard now and a very unfortunate situation because stefan has never really been in this kind of conundrum before where he has to make the hard choice of constantly messing & changing up his progress in order to start a new strategy in helping his urges, or risking to simply reverting back to what he knows; living off of animal blood in order to keep him at bay, and also, not risk the lives of others, and even risking his own empathy, which is something he values dearly. it’s not a simple thing at all. the plot is portraying this sort of ordeal very well.
cece
2025-01-07 00:54:35 +0000 UTCBut then it hasn’t worked, because Stefan repeatedly keeps on falling off the wagon with human blood over and over. That’s why damon wants Stefan to confront his blood issues with it instead of avoiding it altogether cold turkey.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 00:48:34 +0000 UTCi think he meant in that moment and the after effects. obviously stefans sickness isn’t anyone’s fault, but basically saying that damon was the one who pushed him over the edge. i mean… faulting damon for stefans ripper binge isn’t entirely false and can be up for interpretation now that i think about it. damon is just essentially the one who triggered it, and didn’t help him at all after the fact. his method for animal blood actually has worked for him, for over 50 years actually. it’s just that when the rare circumstances of stefan needing more strength than anticipated snuck up on him, he was unfortunately forced into that traumatic cycle of him being at war with himself, and it was unexpected. it’s an unfortunate situation overall.
cece
2025-01-07 00:47:20 +0000 UTCAnother good big brother moment from damon. I loved it when he said, “when you go over the edge I will be there to pull you back until you don’t need me. Because you’re all I got.” It’s such a beautiful confession from damon, it shows how much he loves Stefan and wants to help him this time. Their bond is such an important aspect in tvd.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 00:40:51 +0000 UTCigli was implying that it was Damon’s fault that he was the ripper when it wasn’t the case. Damon of course is trying to help him out now, and he regrets not doing it in the past which shows a lot of growth. Stefan always had these issues, and I was just explaining that to them why his method for animal blood hasn’t worked for him so well. Stefan needs help, and damon is willing to be there for him.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 00:36:25 +0000 UTCi dont think anyone’s inclining to the idea that stefan being a ripper is damons fault, more so, that in that time period, damon was at fault for that because he led him to drink and kill that person, and damon let him and didn’t do anything to help after the fact, which damon himself admitted and took accountability for. damons admitting to wanting to help now though so that’s a change.
cece
2025-01-07 00:33:18 +0000 UTCi think other interpretations can mean that it’s what led to them being in her life, since her and matt were talking about the salvatores and them being in her life and how they’re still here. her and stefan fell in love, and then with damon, even though they started off shaky and still are, he’s still there in her inner circle because she can’t shake him off. so essentially, she’s stuck with the both of them.
cece
2025-01-07 00:31:09 +0000 UTCI love the moment when Elena said, “Damon just sort of snuck up on me. He got under my skin and no matter what I do, I can’t shake him.” And Matt basically confirming that once you fall in love with someone, you can’t ever shake them. This scene cemented the fact that Elena is completely in love with damon. She fell for Stefan becuase it was safe and it was what she needed at the time, but Damon is different. He is fun, unpredictable, and brings a spark into her life that she never had with Stefan.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 00:18:09 +0000 UTCDamon genuinely does want to help Stefan. Stefan has never been able to handle his blood issues for centuries. Him drinking animal blood does not help at all. Thats why he rips heads off because he can’t stop himself. He needs to learn moderation like damon does. Stefan being a ripper is not Damon’s fault. It’s the cold hard truth.
Amber Augustine
2025-01-07 00:12:16 +0000 UTCDamon does mean well with Stefan. This all or nothing mentality when it comes to drinking blood is a reason Stefan is a ripper. If he learned moderation life would’ve been a lot easer.
Heidi Louise
2025-01-07 00:11:54 +0000 UTC
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