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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Men are born in the valley and women are born at the peak

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Men are born in the valley and women are born at the peak

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THIS... IS GOOD SHIT...... I got an associate diploma in electrical engineering and my journey started there. I worked my way up, starting working in building services and eventually got into working on industrial projects. I worked up from a drafting associate, to a designing role. I then got into industrial projects where there is more money. In the end I was a senior/lead electrical Designer. In the end I was designing mining projects..... In the end I was making 230k a year. Get into it dudes, YOU are worth the HARD grind.......

John McGuinness

@E C - So you agree to have attacked? Still, I would predict it is more like PROFOUND annoyance than anything else -- like a bee trapped in your house. Most keep to themselves and avoid even responding to your posts -- most men know how petulant and entitled and attention seeking some women can get, and have learned to stay out of their way. And the fact that you so often feel the need to delete so many of your posted messages (like those just done for this very thread) and so often, I can easily imagine, may be interpreted by many men as a lack of EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE (REGULATION) at best, and COWARDICE at worst, and so may diminish their respect for you (hopefully not as a representative of your gender).

Joseph Omega

@E C - I doubt he was having much fun -- it is painful for most men to give their emotions free reign as it would be for a woman. Especially in a public forum such as this. The entire thread may have already been deleted, but I believe it started with some disparaging comment he made about women in general (much as you often are wont to do about men), to which you seemed compelled to respond with a personal comment about him. Things never recovered from there on. But remember, this is manspace (as opposed to the womanspace, like Manifestelle's which YOU asked me to stay out of), so his generic venting on what could be said to be his "protected" turf can be understood, if not entirely condoned. You needn't have responded as you did, or at all. Many here consider your constant attacks against men and whining about being their victim to be in bad taste in this venue, so tempers may be on edge. Part of your learning process COULD be said to be cognizant and respectful of your environment -- the patience and accommodation you are shown here can be paid-forward to others. Update: I finally located the remains of the thread that started all this. Here are the EXACT words that @MB used to initate the thread (and triggered you to personal attack): "It amuses me that the vast majority of women continue to believe that they're 'the prize' to men, many many years after they've smashed face first into 'the wall'. Men age like wine... women age like milk." I can see why they would hurt you, but surely many of these words don't deviate all that much from those that even Alexander has used in the past -- and the last expression is a well-worn cliche that @MB did not invent.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Pity. 😢. You know HE would never have blocked YOU -- his "honor" (and his peer group here) would be hard pressed to easily allow it.

Joseph Omega

@MB - A petard is a terrible thing to waste. 😄

Joseph Omega

@Hyperion - 💯correct.

Joseph Omega

I've observed that the trend for content creators with predominant female audiences is to pander to what women WANT to hear, i.e. confirmation bias. Par contre, men's content focuses on what men NEED to hear: unembellished harsh truths and performance driven advice based on results. This is why contents aimed at female audiences doesn't resonate with men in general.

Hyperion

@RhodiumMaiden - A good illustrator of what I like to call "The Dance of the Sexes".

Joseph Omega

@E C - Just your expression "INVADE our spaces" speaks VOLUMES as to the level of futility of that exercise. I think I'll pass. Do YOU consider your presence HERE to be an "invasion" of OUR spaces? How has been YOUR reception HERE compared to those poor wretches who invade YOUR spaces?

Joseph Omega

@E C - The "Get a room" quip has already been used. Well, originality is not really one of the more common female traits.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph: but of course we are expected to suffer in silence and endure the incoherent, bitter ramblings of this hypocritical misandrist. And of course, pointing out her obviously contradictory, biased, personal tedium and inflammatory statements... makes one a woman hating incel.

MB

@E C - I have no idea who you are referring to and how the fact that they are "cute" to you is of particular relevance to whether or not they are "simps" or of particular interest to anyone here on Patreon.

Joseph Omega

@MB Yes, that is the foundation. Men must earn value. However, the game has changed because of a breakdown in cultural consensus plus culture is evolving at a disorientingly rapid pace. As a result, packs are smaller and many are unstable. Up until now, liberated women have been taking advantage of this development. If we want to represent it in one word, we can use “hoeflation”. However, in my opinion, this has created “thin tail” value opportunities for men. Value has many dimensions to it. Men can take advantage of it by recognizing their value propositions and choosing its worth. Frankly speaking, I believe the “hoeflation” bubble is starting to burst and I believe men who have a strong sense of who they are; where they are going; and what type of person they want to join them in the journey are going to cash in and then cash out of the sexual market place.

Mark Bryski

A series of utterly hilarious jokes. Amy Schumer would be proud.

MB

For men... we must earn our value. We must create our ability to provide and protect others stoically before we can assume, and be allowed into, the role of pack leader.

MB

@Joseph: wasting your time on this one, amigo... unless your intent is to allow it to 'hoist itself by its own petard'.

MB

@E C - Can you remind me who the "he" is?

Joseph Omega

@Joseph I love that proton & electron metaphor!

RhodiumMaiden

@E C - I see bitter old women as bitter. I see serene and graceful old women as serene and graceful. You are not yet that old, yet you certainly SOUND bitter. Don't men who advocate for women ALSO look desperate for female validation? Is this not the very DEFINITION of "simp"?

Joseph Omega

@E C - Why is it "weird" for women to advocate for men. Is it "wierd" for men to advocate for women? Or is it only wierd when they are not "kinder" to women? Do you no longer appreciate "stoic strength"?

Joseph Omega

@E C - Again, therein lies the problem: Women may invade "male spaces" with impunity (as there are ALWAYS simps of some kind to support or excuse their "minority reports"), but men may NOT invade "female spaces" without near unanimous condemnation (as there are RARELY any females there with the "huevos" to defend their "minority reports"). I would not DREAM of doing so, especially in your favourite bestie's domain. 🙏 Or, do you claim to have been "joking " again? 🤔 PS. I hope you don't delete all your responses from THIS thread as well -- we all benefit from your learning curve (albeit a bit bumpy).

Joseph Omega

@E C - As long as they have your permission and even when they don't want to. Your sense of humor takes some getting used to.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Stabbed me in the back, you mean -- any Feminized Patriarchy is actually a Matriarchy, not even in disguise!

Joseph Omega

In addition to self-esteem based on accomplishments (default) and inherent dignity (what Alexander is advocating for), I think there's a third thing that is extremely important to place most of your self-esteem in, and that is in your character. Sense of right and wrong, integrity, unwavering commitment to honesty, ability to sacrifice immediate pleasure to future goals, kindness but not weakness, and so on. /These/ are what make someone a man. Achievement will often follow from these things, but not always, and definitely not all achievement is the result of good character. I find material success so unimpressive in a person unless it's paired with good character. But when the two are paired together, it's far more impressive than either on its own, and I think high quality women see it the same. Edit: nevermind, should have watched the whole video before writing this lol

voskresenie

I enjoy hearing from female view with Christine. She makes a very good point about most girls are going for one type of man. Tall blue eyes makes 6 figures leaving the rest of the guys forgotten about. A friend of mine was literally just saying this to me recently. Which is 1 reason why dating apps are such a waste of $$ for guys . Ladies are almost all going for top 10% on these apps. So the boosting of your profile and all that is waste of $ because we are probably not what they're looking for , even though it should be.

alex ford

My most recent girlfriend. Didn't work out because she's the 1st one I had after I set boundaries . And she crossed the boundary. When she told me she believes "happy wife , happy life" = a guy doing everything to make the girl happy. Doesn't matter what he needs or wants . And I'm a fairly easy going guy. I don't ask for alot . But that rubbed me wrong when she said that.

alex ford

@Mark Bryski - Well, phrased THAT way ... 😄

Joseph Omega

Indeed. 😥

Joseph Omega

It's simultaneously amazing and disappointing that after 7 years, men's cultural disposition in the West has deteriorated even more, and Karen Straughan's content rings true ever more.

Hyperion

I LOVE Karen Straughan! I second this recommendation! 👍 PS. Her indictments of "women who invade men's spaces and attack them with entitlement and immunity" is particularly poignant, as it illustrates the perception that men are, not just disposable, but discountable. Listen to how often this "openly entitled" YouTuber in a woman's space say quite unashamedly: "men are not allowed even in the comments" - https://youtu.be/ck02WpxzrF4?si=Qbb8c9Cq5mmNffq4 The LITERAL tag line of her channel is: "The Spoiled Girlie Support Group". You could not MAKE this sh*t up.

Joseph Omega

Regarding the woman at the beginning with the Amazon wish list: How many of you guys are upset with her? Nope. Me neither. Now, how many guys are mad at the simp men who bought her all that stuff? Me too. Man’s worst enemy is another man. Ladies, we are not mad at you. We know the people screwing up our culture are our fellow men.

Eric Linden

@Joseph Omega I like the message Alexander gives where he starts by saying “You deserve, kindness, dignity, and respect…” and ends it by saying “you need to be fucking suspicious of anybody who doesn’t view you that way”.

Mark Bryski

To me, "deserve" sounds more like a word that a WOMAN would feel comfortable using -- too much like the word "entitled" for my particular taste.

Joseph Omega

@E C - As could be expected, both these YouTubers cater to PREDOMINANTLY female audiences: https://chatgpt.com/share/a9dc7908-ccf9-41d2-b6df-50e81dd79354 This primarily explains the enormous number of subscribers relative to Alexander -- on average, men are less ... uh ... needy (as well as being more discerning?).

Joseph Omega

If they feel such a need to talk about it, then they are already infected (at least in the professional class). The problem continues to be that word "equality": to most people who don't think too closely about it, it naturally implies "interchangeably", and THAT is the TRULY toxic component that is hardly ever explicitly addressed. A far less ambiguous word would be "equivalency". The easiest analog would be electrons and protons in an atom: No one would TRULY call them "equal" (far less "interchangeable"). They are EQUIVALENT, meaning of equal (but completely opposite) VALUE. Just one look at their relative sizes or masses (a proton is roughly 2000 times the size of an electron) and the RIDICULOUSNESS of the "equality" comparison becomes rather obvious -- same is true of the two human sexes.

Joseph Omega

It’s apples and oranges to me. First off, I don’t really like those two creators. Their content isn’t really aimed at me. Secondly, I was talking about female creators. There are a few I follow that have lots of men simping in the comments on both YouTube and Patreon. There’s maybe one interesting comment for every 25 or so I read. So I don’t read them. The content is good, but it seems much of the male audience is just following the attractive female with “inherent” (unearned) worth.

Eric Linden

Though I understand Alexander's sentiment, I don't know if I'm all that comfortable with the phrasing of "men should be more like women" and "women should be more like men". This sounds too much like the Feminist ideology that started all this in the first place -- an ideology inconsistent with an eons long evolutionary trajectory of a dimorphic species largely driven by sexual selection. How much sense could there be in a "historically oppressive Patriarchy", where each side evolved to perfectly suit the other.

Joseph Omega

While trying to achieve equality, the Western world has overcorrected. The way men and women get their value - women inherent, men action -based - has become worse, not better. Women, no matter how attractive they were, had to prove themselves a century ago. Not so in the third world. Women there seem to get it, they are less delusional (at least on this issue), and they want to correct the situation and achieve true equality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ULjiiwjQXk&list=PLTq0udibvx-a4ItIT21604LMxsDyj-RR7&index=10

Eric Linden

The ethos of male disposability and its societal conditioning is so deep-rooted in human culture and society that it takes conscientious and prodigious effort to overcome. This topic reminded me of a video from Karen Straughan, a staunch men's rights activist. In it, she said: "Is there any argument anywhere that woman's humanity has always been held in higher regard by society than men's? To be important to society a woman merely has to be; a man has to do in order for his life to have any meaning to anyone other than himself. Our society reduces men from human beings to human doings." Never have I seen a woman argue so articulately, perspicaciously, and compassionately for men's well-being as Karen Straughan. I encourage you all to watch this video. If more women understand and think like Karen, perhaps men's disposition might improve in our current society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA

Hyperion

Women aren’t just rewarded for existence in the physical world. We see it on YouTube and Patreon as well. Alexander has to work much harder than women, and has to give us much higher quality content to receive his likes, comments, and subscribers. Look around at the other content out there, and it is obvious.

Eric Linden

Yes, everyone, including us men, deserve kindness, dignity, and respect. When it is not present, I walk away. I don't argue or fight for it and I don't make myself smaller as a man to put up with it. Just walk away in peace. When it involves something of significant value, such as my kids, as a father, I turn to the system and advocate for it. If necessary, fight for it…barn fight for it. Basically be Papa Bear. Give them both the man and the bear.

Mark Bryski

Gentle parenting is causing men to also be born into the feminine paradigm. The difference is when you come out of it. For boys it is sometime when they are still very young. For women, it depends upon beauty. Ugly women very young. The most beautiful women don’t face reality until a very advanced age.

Eric Linden

I would hope for the video thumbs here on Patreon could be the same as on Youtube. Henceforth would be easy to see if already heard the same video (except of course the ending exclusive Patreon).

Tord Pettersson

Beginning in the 1970s, a new narrative began where women starting from a young age matured earlier than men, and were then 5-10 years beyond men in maturity throughout life. Before that time, the opposite narrative was pushed in Western society. It can be seen in old movies and TV. Watch old black and white shows like Lost in Space where Will Robinson is more mature than his oldest sister. Then watch the later Lost in Space movies (in color) and the maturity narrative is reversed.

Eric Linden


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