PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Hoeflation
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@E C - Then I will GLADLY allow you your perceptions. š
Joseph Omega
2024-09-22 21:11:19 +0000 UTC@E C - Ah TRUTH finally! Bravo! PS. Ironically, would YOU enjoy it if I DID enjoy your attention?
Joseph Omega
2024-09-22 21:04:01 +0000 UTC@E C - Ooooo! You flatterer you! Do you think I bask in your attention as well, "Chad" that I am? Still, my exact original question was: "If ALL males everywhere were to overnight suddenly and irrevocably ignore you COMPLETELY, as if you did not exist, would you miss it? To take it further, if men were actively REPULSED by you, and would cross over to the other side of the street whenever they saw you coming, would you be OK?" In other words, if you were treated as the MAJORITY of men are by women. PS. Weren't YOU the one who called yourself a "wallflower" AND a "Feminist"?
Joseph Omega
2024-09-22 20:41:36 +0000 UTC@E C - Not all "wallflowers" are bitter or angry or even Feminist. Still, are you saying that you have NEVER been catcalled or even stared at as a woman? Even as the ONLY woman in the room? If you have not, did you wish you were? If you have, didn't you enjoy it? Don't you enjoy ANY of the male attention you get on this Patreon? Even from Alexander himself? Remember: HONESTY and HUMILITY.
Joseph Omega
2024-09-22 08:16:27 +0000 UTC@E C - You appear to have forgotten the context of my question. Remember you said: "Male attention is like sugar, is just bad for you." So, it is a craving or an addition, so that you would MISS IT (in whatever form you "chose")?
Joseph Omega
2024-09-21 05:54:04 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - My undergraduate degree was in Electronics and Systems Engineering, but I ended up in Computers and Information Management.
Joseph Omega
2024-07-24 22:09:32 +0000 UTC@Joseph I donāt ever remember not being very opinionated and rigid-seeming. I was definitely much more black-and-white in my thinking when I was younger. But my point is, Iām not sure how much my childhood ostracisation has impacted my personality - I think itās probably less than you may suspect. My mother is also extraordinarily opinionated and much more rigid, to the point of being incapable of admitting fault and Iāve never seen her change her mind. I suspect her influence & genetics are the biggest factors. Iām all about pushback which is why I really appreciate our interactions because like you, I want to be constantly improving my mind and personality. I agree regarding scepticism. I I love my systems, but Iām aware that theyāre not perfect by any means. What type of engineer are you? Of course I would watch anything that was crucial to watch, regardless of who presented it. Iām talking about what I consider my entertainment, which I watch for pleasure in part. So maybe infotainment is a better term. From everything Iāve heard, I donāt have much to learn from Christine. And there are other sources I prefer to learn that information from. I usually make very quick judgements regarding whether I like someone or their content, and from long experience, Iāve found that Iām very rarely wrong about my initial feeling; I trust my intuition. Though Iāll always revise my opinion based on new info. But as I said elsewhere, I much prefer Christine in AGās videos. She doesnāt bother me in this context, provided I just listen, and I quite enjoy one of her segments. Re: paragraph 6 on intellectual humility, I completely agree. My OCD cleanliness has nothing to do with microbes, perhaps because Iāve always been so biologically inclined. I am all for exposure and strengthening the immune system. So for example, I donāt consider anything that I put in my mouth dirty. I will eat food from the floor or the trash. Even public trash cans. Itās not some thing I seek out but it doesnāt bother me to do that and I hate wasting things, especially food. I donāt use any products which are antimicrobial on my body (I make most of my personal care products from natural , non-toxic edible materials) & I donāt take antibiotics unless absolutely necessary. What I consider dirty are waste products, rotting things, insects, toxins and visible dirt. Or certain people I consider dirty. Iām very concerned about the rise in allergy and autoimmune conditions. But I think a bigger factor than insulation/isolation is actually dysgenic breeding due to women being on hormonal birth control when they choose their mates.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-07-19 20:14:02 +0000 UTChoeflation has been going on for a long time. Even back in the 80's women were divorcing their husbands who were good reliable providers just because they were too boring or whatever. They destroyed the family and then the courts would side with them.
castirondude
2024-07-13 03:16:07 +0000 UTCMan that black widow lady with her pregnancy test creeped me out.
castirondude
2024-07-13 03:13:52 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Thank you for the very thoughful, thorough and candid responses. I think I much better understand your postion and those aspects of your personality and psychology that you were willing to share. I think I begin to see why your positions on certain topics sometimes appear so opinionated and rigid--you appear to have endured quite a bit of personal isolation and ostracization growing up (especially as a woman), and you may have enacted certain understandable defensive and adaptive mechanisms to help mitigate the more potentially traumatic and debilitating. This appears quite common and maybe even ubiquitous among humans, regardless of gender--we all have to live within the confines of our skulls, and peaceful co-existence with our thoughts and beliefs seems key to stable mental health. Still, at the same time, just as with physical muscles (and maybe other organs), a healthy "pushback" upon one's psyche by an external source is also necessary for growth and the development of a healthy "immune system of the mind". I do not employ "Intellectual Humility" due to any altruistic incentive--it is purely used as a sort of automated mental "Nordic Track". I myself like to nurture a "healthy skepticism" for categorization (especially "value judgementation"), consciously superimposed of course, upon my natural primate propensity for "pattern recognition"--as an engineer, I too enjoy "organization and systematization", yet I constantly try to strive for optimum balance between the two polarities. And I particularly do as much as I can to adopt and maintain as much of the stoicism needed to counteract any need for "pride", and the external validation that normally accompanies it. I'm just teasing anyway, but I did not think you THOUGHT she was a "bimbo", just that you'd developed that initial IMPRESSION, and now (apparently) have allowed it to influence your decision to watch her (and consequently to allow yourself the opportunity to change that intial impression). Of course I must respect your decsion, but feel compelled to at least mention this is an illustrative example of the differences in our two approaches--if the devil had a podcast whose content was potentially crucial to witness, I would feel obliged to at least CONSIDER watching it. I suspect I may not have lasted very long in the Garden of Eden under the Lord's edicts against "eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil", and would likely have succumbed before Eve did. š Again, I think I understand how your description of your "extreme extraversion" gels with your "Social Interaction Difficulties", and the resultant difficulties you experienced between your self-definition and how you may have been percieved by others. Your decision to "let go (of your self-doubt) to reconnect (with your peers)" represents a mature development most of us seem to go through. On "Intellectual Humility", the "intellectual" aspect is a crucial modifier to the common naive "religious-like" interpretation of the concept. I know I personally feel like I cannot afford to risk a lack of exposure and access to vital concepts and viewpoints just because they disturb, unsettle or otherwise threaten my psychic equilibrium--I believe this to be the essence of the spirit behind the "redpill" movement. From this point of view, I suspect males, being "further along the autistic spectrum" in this regard as you suggest, may possess a decidedly inherent advantage in "considering the uncomfortable or uncouth", and hence less likely to fall prey to "settling" or "accepting" our mind's default "status quo" state. On your OCD concerning cleanliness, I have observered what appears to be a potentially disturbing pattern among younger individuals in the "West" with the development and proliferation of what appears to be an "epidemic of allergies" (seemingly both mental AND physical) that I often suspect originated from the previous generation's natural but perhaps overly successful attempts at "protecting their children from all adversities", and instilling within them a compulsion to avoid all potential pathogenens (again mental AND physical)--female parents (the "Matriarchy") are seemingly particularly adept at this indoctrination. My intuition suggests that succeeding generations are becoming, due in large part to improved technology, less and less "naturally adaptable" to the world outside their custom protected environments, with the development of "trigger warnings", "safe spaces", "microaggressions", "accessibility accommodations", "DEI policies", "mental health days", "empathy circles" and "support groups" representing PSYCHOLOGICAL aspects, and "food allergies/intolerances", "immunne system dysfunctions", "asthmas", "eczemas", "anaphylaxic incidents", "hives", "chemical sensitivities" and "gluten reactions" representing PHYSIOLOGICAL aspects. I personally agree with you about the evaluation of the videos on (especially female) "Sigmas" that this and similar channels present: They certainly DO sound rather contrived, so I am glad for your clarity and corroboration: I too found them "kind of cringe", and I'm not surprised to hear you speculate that they might more reflect the creators desire for self-validation of their "specialness"--a topic I believe I've previously touched on (and again, the reason for my avoidance of "pride").
Joseph Omega
2024-06-02 22:23:29 +0000 UTCI donāt think Iām a sigma female & Iām not sure I agree itās even a thing, as that video describes. Iām not introverted (though I enjoy my own company and silence), Iām not shy, I like attention though not necessarily being the centre of attention - thatās a little too much. I do not like to disappear, I like to stand out, again within reason. I hate crowds, but I really enjoy more intimate groups of people. I never get bored itās simply not possible for me, but I donāt really watch TV. I am a lone wolf in the sense that I am not a follower, certainly much more of a leader, and in every job Iāve ever had Iāve been promoted to manager within three months. I have the other traits but Iām missing too many of the core ones from the sounds of it. Also, I donāt really like the channel; I find it kind of cringe. One of my best friends is basically like this, but I canāt think of anyone else Iāve ever met who would fit into this category and I know a lot of unusual, interesting, intelligent and high functioning people. Sounds more like the content creator is trying to create her own category maybe because it reflects her own traits and she thinks sheās super special.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-06-02 16:29:33 +0000 UTCYes, all of those apply to me (most especially #3 & #4) but the motor coordination is extremely mild & not an impairment (Iām athletic); itās like Iām not fully aware of my bodyās boundaries when Iām at home & relaxed, so I am prone to gently bumping into/brushing against objects & walls. This doesnāt happen outside my home because I consider the outside world dirty & am cautious about what I touch. I love categories, because I love organisation & systematising better helps me understand things. In an absolute sense there may may not be a clear boundary between normie and ND but in practice itās usually quite clear to me which category a person falls into. And knowing that enables me to better interact with the person. I am very proud of my neurodivergence and I certainly do not consider it any sort of disability or victim status. I despise the victim Olympics the West has going on. Iām further along both spectrums, really. You can see extreme femininity as essentially schizotypality which is the opposite of autism which is essentially extreme masculinity so theyāre kind of the same thing. Ah okay, that AQ. I didnāt say she was a bimbo. I said I get that vibe from her & I donāt enjoy it. And I donāt enjoy watching her, so I wonāt. No, extraversion does not automatically save one from social difficulties. Iāve never had difficulty interacting with adults, but until I was 16, I had at most one friend at a time and was otherwise ostracised by my peers. I wanted desperately to fit in and had no idea how to do so and all my attempts failed miserably. Ironically the revelation of deciding that I didnāt want to fit in and I didnāt care what (most) other people thought, quickly led to me being able to socialise with my peers. I am not really much for humility. Warranted arrogance is not a problem in my opinion. Obviously, pride can be taken too far and I canāt tolerate people who refuse to admit fault. My OCD was very much repetitive behaviours and rituals, but Iāve gotten rid of most of those, and primarily what remains is my obsession with cleanliness. I donāt really want to get rid of that so I kept it. Perfectionism isnāt necessarily OCD, but yes, I am a perfectionist. Yes, talking around is more accurate.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-06-02 15:55:24 +0000 UTCNot being that familiar with it, I looked up "Aspergerās Syndrome", and discovered the following key features: 1. Social Interaction Difficulties 2. Communication Challenges 3. Repetitive Behaviors and Routines 4. Intense Focus on Interests 5. Motor Coordination Difficulties Do you suffer from all of these symptoms? Personally, I've always had a problem with such "labels" especially when used in instances where a set of attributes are considered (by defintion) to exist "along a spectrum". Where does "normie" end and "Aspergerās" (or more widely, "Autism") begin? Modern "Western" society seems rather smitten with the idea of "specialness", where individuals appear to perversely vie for elevated "victimization/uniqueness status", according to their "intersectionality": "I'm more Racially disadvantaged/unique (e.g., 'Black') than you", "I'm more Sexually disadvantaged/unique (e.g., 'Woman') than you", "I'm more Cognitively disadvantaged/unique (e.g., 'Autistic') than you", "I'm more Orientedly disadvantaged/unique (e.g., 'homosexual') than you" or "I'm more Identity disadvantaged/unique (e.g., 'transgender') than you". Not at all to imply that this is how you self-define or rationalize, but just a personal observation of the trend in popular culture. I understand that labels can help in categorizing and understanding diverse human experiences, but they can also create rigid boundaries that don't always reflect the fluidity of individual traits and behaviors. Itās fascinating yet challenging to discern where one set of traits ends and another begins, especially when considering the full spectrum of human diversity. And although I THINK I understand much of what you said, it would help if I could have some clarification on the nature of the "spectrum" when you say "I'm just more towards one end of the spectrum relative to most women and many men." Are you referring to a spectrum that ranges from neurotypical to neurodivergent, or is it more about a spectrum that includes male and female variations of neurotypical and neurodivergent traits? Understanding this better would help me grasp the nuances of your perspective. "AQ" pertains to the whole "Pro-Choice/Pro-Life" debate. I also agree that certain "interest groups" have indeed grown to have political and cultural influence well beyond their raw activists' numbers, but remain somewhat skeptical as to the degree to which such power rises to the levels of "nefarious global conspirators". Regarding the male and female gaze, your neutral and unbiased approach is refreshing. It is indeed important to consider both perspectives without attributing inherent value judgments. I personally try to consciously counteract my own natural preference for the "male gaze", admittedly with limited success. Speaking of which (and my own masculine visual predilections), here is your "Bimbo with the nose" critiquing philosophical ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQn3xIIJ5Y0 Wouldn't "extreme extraversion" immediatley recuse you from the complete Aspergerās diagnosis on the basis of a clear contradiction of the "Social Interaction Difficulties" criterion? Or is your extraversion perceived as "awkward" or "inappropriate" by your audience? Again, I don't personally know ANYONE who does not, at SOME point or the other, consider themselves "weird or eccentric" in one way or the other and to one degree or another--we all harbor our secret insecurties that we think make us unique or "special". I personally revere and try to embrace and practice the precepts of "Intellectual Humility" in an effort to temper the potential for Hubris that frequently hijacks such perceptions. In my mind, not for nothing has "Pride" long been considered one of the "7 Deadly Sins". And I may have already hinted at my views on "categorizing people": A somewhat "necessary evil" that I try to employ with as much strategic and limited caution as I can muster. As the humorous saying goes: "There are two types of people in this world--those who categorize people and those who do not." š But alas, humans ARE "pattern-recognition intelligences". Is your "OCD" of the "Repetitive Behaviors and Routines" variety? In my experience, "regular" OCD tends to just be a natural side-effect of high intelligence--such people tend to be "perfectionists" in one way or the other. But I suspect you may be right: Most ("normie") men expect and are drawn to a certain level of "female neuroticsm" (perceived as an attractive aspect of the "Feminine Mystique", and potentially indicative of a "good homemaker" ... of course in manageable levels). I too recognize that discussing these topics can be challenging due to differing interpretations of terms and concepts. It's a reminder of the importance of clear communication, especially with such complex and atypical "red-pilled" subject matter. I would not really consider us so much talking PAST each other, as talking AROUND each other, hopefully spiralling in to deeper understanding. As to the "Sigma concept" ("Cigma" was a curious typo of mine š), this is the video that first introduced me to the concept (specifically applied to females): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH8SImxpnJw I could be wrong, but you appear to exhibit many of the more admirable characterstics.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-28 10:18:54 +0000 UTCItās not having traits of both Neurotypical men and Neurotypical women that necessarily makes me Neurodivergent. I would say it works the opposite way around; my Aspergerās makes me in between/weird/complex. Of course I have plenty of Neurotypical traits. I am still human and female and everything is on a spectrum. Iām just more towards one end of the spectrum relative to most women and many men. I prefer validation first in a highly emotional state only. I have no problem with people playing devils advocate and do it myself in any context OTHER than as a response to me essentially having an emotional episode. Iām generally tolerant, provided there is no gaslighting or hypocrisy. I cannot stand those and am more easily triggered by them. I do think that much of the danger also comes from within Western civilisation. Itās complicated and there are many factors. Blaming everything on one group is shortsighted but at the same time I donāt think itās reasonable given the body of evidence to exclude the immense influence of certain groups like the one I mentioned. I think I know what you mean by the TQ, but I have no idea what the AQ could be. But I get your point overall. I completely agree about development. I do not think the falling birth rates are remotely natural. The terms male gaze and female gaze are pretty new to me. I watched a few videos on YouTube that were recommended on the topic, but I wasnāt too impressed by most of them, except one which wasnāt overly misandric. So when I think about and use these terms, I use them as I feel they should be used, which is as accurately as possible and without an attributing a value judgement to either the male or the female version. But there is still of course bias because as a woman I have a female gaze and I definitely prefer it generally. When it comes to visual matters, I am very feminine. So there are probably a few things which obscure my neurodivergence, both online and IRL. I am high functioning, I have several traits which are unusual in someone with Aspergerās (such as extreme extraversion), and Iāve done a lot of personal work to improve and moderate myself. Itās certainly not obvious though anyone who gets to know me will realise early on that Iām at least weird or eccentric. I learned about Aspergerās back in 2018 and since then itās explained so much and Iāve embraced the label because I am proud of who I am and of my differences. And because I found that viewing the world in terms of ND versus NT is very helpful. Iāve been drawn to these types of systems my entire life; Myers-Briggs, Jung, Ayurveda - anything that can help me categorise people and better understand them as a result, because I had so much trouble relating to and understanding most people, particularly my peers, for my entire childhood and much of my teens. I am not very neurotic, particularly for a woman, but the way in which I AM neurotic is quite marked. I used to be very OCD (which I now understand is an aspect of my Aspergerās) and I still possess some of those traits. Iāve found that most people - especially men - donāt really seem to care about these quirks of mine. There are essentially trivial you could say, though I do feel very strongly about them. A lot of it has to do with matters of taste and how my home is organised so in this manner you could say that I am again very traditionally feminine. I hope this clarifies some matters. At times I feel like we are almost talking past each other to a certain small extent, especially with regards to how we seem to view certain terms/concepts quite differently. Iām curious as to why exactly that is happening but then again we are talking about some pretty nebulous topics and in-depth. You certainly do not strike me as a Normie yourself. Iāll have to look more into the sigma concept. If you have any recommendations, please let me know. My current understanding is itās men who are not lacking masculinity but have unusual traits and donāt fit into a typical macho framework.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-27 17:08:08 +0000 UTCInteresting how falling between two "Neurotypicals" (women and men) places you as "Neurodivergent". I once asked if this was equivalant to "Cigma". Perhaps this is just all labelling and semantics. What's in a name? But, based on your defintion, and in my experience, MOST women (and probably most men for that matter) are somewhat "Neurodivergent". To me, your need to be heard and validated FIRST, distinguishes you as more "Neurotypical Female" to me than not. Though most men certainly benefit from validation, it is scarcely a prerequisite. And most regular women DO respect and admire directness and bluntness--after all, it IS this uniquely masculine trait that likely often attracts them to males. You appear to just have a higher tolerance for it than average. And your abhorence for "Devil's Advocacy" is not really a male trait--we often THRIVE on such adversity and the challenge to our position (that we can overcome). Men RARELY care if someone says that we don't have a right to feel what we're feeling--this just seems to us a silly, trivial and rather obvious attempt at gaslighting--annoying at best. Again, it seems a distinctly "Neurotypically Female" charactersitic you appear to exhibit. I don't think those who most passionately and loudly "vow to destroy the West" are of particular danger to it--as I implied, I think the TRUE danger comes from within. Just as may have afflicted the great empires of the past--Rome just being the most notable and cited example. Persia, China, the Mayans, Egypt, etc. likely so suffered near the end, to be supplanted by less decadent and cynical, yet more vibrant, risk-taking and innovative replacements. To me, the "JQ" is likely more a red-herring distractive bugbear, designed as a feint for geo- and local- political reasons. Kind of like the "TQ" and the "AQ", if you catch my acronyms. I'm not entirely convinced that "development" naturally leads to lower birth rates. For most of human history, a HIGHER standard of living has led to HIGHER birth and LOWER death rates. Again, the "Eurocentric Assumption", with its emphasis on the "Industrial Revolution" and "Finite Exploitable Resources" as developmental models may be skewing the relationships. I suspect that once humans once again face "unlimited resources" and "unlimited risks" on becoming a space-faring civilization, such self-centered, insular and frankly feminine cultural proclivites will quickly dissipate. Yes, I've heard the terms "male gaze" and "female gaze" before without fully understanding the popular interpretation--but I just looked it up, and there appears to be an inconsistency, as the "male gaze" is uniformly described in NEGATIVE terms, with the "female gaze" uniformly interpreted in POSITIVE terms. The "Bimbo look" of the "male gaze" does not appear to have a commensurate "Jerk look" of the "female gaze"--something that can be associated with "stupidity and low class". Curious. As "most men want normie women", would you say that "most women want normie men", and would not know what to do with an "ND" one? As I suggested earlier, from what you have described of yourself so far, I don't consider you particularly "Neurodivergent", and I can imagine scenarios whereby your sensitivities to "being heard and validated" (as a precondition to direct dialogue) or your reaction to "Devil's Advocacy" (as "the worst") or your curious "snobbishness about noses" or your "discrimination about everything" COULD become rather "dramatic" for a male if not satiated or even tolerated. But perhaps LESS, as you say, than other females along that spectrum. It IS true that schizotypal, ADD, bipolar and borderline personalites are, by defintion, PATHOLOGICAL, and so exceedingly "dramatic" by defintion, but those appear to be rather extreme and special cases. That is correct: Similar to MOST "normie" (or maybe "Cigma") men, I suspect I don't feel as strongly about most people the way you do. Most people are just ... PEOPLE to me, and I don't easily or quickly allow myself casual prejudices or feel the "prerogative" to change them on a whim. I think that the average high (or low) intelligence ND (or NT) women are, in general, SIGNIFICANTLY less resistant as a rule to (social) indoctrination (of the modern form) than the typical man--I suspect a sensitiviy to such "indoctrination" may be an evolutionary adaptive feature in human females, in keeping with their "collectivist" predispositions.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-23 10:15:22 +0000 UTCNo, I meant that I fall somewhere between Neurotypical women and Neurotypical men. I am definitely Neurodivergent myself. So when I do have an emotional episode, which is not super common, yes, I do want ideally to be si heard and validated first. so most of the time Iām quite levelheaded and certainly then I prefer blunt, honest and even critical speech yes. when I do get emotional (in a way that benefits from a response from others), it is usually very short-lived. I get over it in a few minutes, especially if Iām validated first. Doesnāt need to be complicated or lengthy validation just saying āyeah that sucksā is usually enough. But what I really hate is when instead the person plays Devils advocate and tries to undermine what Iām feeling and tell me that I donāt have a right to feel that essentially thatās the worst. I have never seen AMALT, though I have used it a few times myself. I donāt really think toxic masculinity is a proper equivalent to that concept. I havenāt watched enough Rollo consistently to be able to recommend any content. He is certainly not emphatically angry or bitter, but it is a vibe that I get. I obviously agree that stupidity and many other factors contribute to the decline of the west. And I wouldnāt say that there is a āconspiracyā because those who want to destroy the west are quite open about their hatred for us and have been for quite some time. You will no doubt consider this line of thinking conspiratorial in nature however especially as it relates to the JQ. Which I cannot elaborate on in such a public forum. Some of the factors contributing to population decline are the same for the Asian countries - there are factors which are simply due to development. And India is suffering from serious fertility issues, actually. Africa is only reproducing so much because itās propped up by the West. Iām very, very snobby about noses. And as I think Iāve said, just very discriminating about well everything, in general. I want to watch content by people I enjoy listening to and looking at. Have you heard of the male gaze versus the female gaze? Iām rarely a fan of women who try to appeal to the male gaze. I.e. the bimbo look. I associate it with stupidity and low class. Which I know is a stereotype, but thatās still my preference. Of course, most men want normie women and most of them are normies themselves so they wouldnāt even know what to do with a ND one. But I donāt think itās accurate to characterise ND women as more dramatic. From my experience with other autistic women we certainly seem much less dramatic than normie women overall, which makes sense because weāre more like men. Youāre thinking of schizotypal women, ADD, bipolar, borderline things like that. Those people are very dramatic regardless of gender. I suspect that you donāt tend to feel very strongly about most people the way that I do. tend to love hate or not care at all about people. And I tend to form those judgements quite swiftly. I am open to changing my mind as I receive new information. I think that high intelligence ND women are more resistant to indoctrination. Lower IQ ones not so much necessarily. There is definitely too much ND, & too much intelligence. Most geniuses are not very functional in every day life. Also people are not as happy as less intelligent people. Apologies for any errors as I used voice to text for this message.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-22 10:05:05 +0000 UTCUS incomes today are 40 percent less than they were in the mid 1970s. 80 percent of men cannot support a wife as he could in the 1960s. Yet, regardless of her income or credentials, most women still want a man who can support her. Sorry, but that mathematical expectation is delusional. Women who continue to be delusional ultimately will find themselves alone, long after their biological alarm clocks sounded.
Roger Hayden
2024-05-22 03:55:48 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden I'm glad you liked Salty. I can see why she would apeal to the "ND" in you. She's a bit much for my taste (drama, tattoos, peircings, forked-tongue, etc), but I've enjoyed her wild journey since she came (back) out as a female about three years ago. About a year ago she admitted to being "heterosexual" (without using the words--she still thinks she's "asexual"), and you may be interested in her description (on her main channel) of her relationship with her current boyfriend (whom she refers to as a "soulmate"), an atypical journey to "femininity" you may relate to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUe0J81ba14
Joseph Omega
2024-05-11 00:09:43 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden I think you meant to say that you fall "somewhere in between normie and neuroAtypical", right? Interesting that, both for yourself AND for other women, you acknowledge the need to vent/have your emotions and feelings validated first BEFORE prescriptions can be entertained. WIthin that initial interlude however, you seem to be implying that your preference IS for empathic/sympathetic communication, correct? What I rather loosely referred to as being "spoken to sweetly". This is more in keeping with my experiences. I asked ChatGPT, and it said: "While it originally gained prominence in the context of discussions about gender dynamics, particularly in men's rights and anti-feminist circles, it [Red Pill] has since broadened to encompass a variety of topics. These can include politics, culture, media, and more, where the term is used to describe the act of rejecting mainstream narratives or beliefs in favor of what proponents consider to be the truth about how the world operates." I was not personally aware that the usage had expanded in scope outside of its origins in the "manosphere", but I guess that makes sense. I had to look up the meaning of "AWALT" ("All Women Are Like That"). Interesting that there does not appear to exist a commensurate "AMALT" in regular usage, despite the sentiment being QUITE common among women. Would the equivalent be "Toxic masculinity" maybe? I can't say that I'm super familiar with many of the popular players in "manosphere space", so I had to lookup "Rollo". Would you say that this video would be a good introducion to his content? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsmKuE-_XIs I have not finished watching it, but I can't say that I find him particularly "bitter" or "angry". But I agree: I too find Alexander Grace the best of the lot that I have so far encountered. I'm not sure how consciously "intentional" is the existential threat to humanity--I'm a staunch believer in the near universality of "Hanlon's Razor" ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"). That so-called "Western civilization", especially among European peoples, DO seem to be bearing the brunt of the downturn in human procreation IS true, but I suspect it is more due to the culture having "outsmarted itself" in its hubris of "sophistication" and "progressiveness", rather than any "conspiracy" to foment "genocide". As all the alleged conspirational instigators I've heard reside in "The West", it seems rather self-defeating if so. That this effect is next most prominent among certain far east Asian countries like South Korea, Japan and China I think is likely due to distinctly different factors more directly related to official or unofficial responses to the once perceived threat of overpopulation--responses that have now outlived their usefulness, but are difficult to reverse. There are many other Asian countries, like India and the Pillipines, that do not appear to face the same risk at all. This may yet change as "Western progressive values" permeate THEIR cultures. Even Africa may not be immune. I hope not. Again with the "Bimbo" characterization! And now targeting her nose! š¤£ I can't help but conjure the old Shakespearian adage: "Methinks the Lady doth protest too much!" Just teasing, but it is PRECISELY those very characterstics of "naĆÆvetĆ© and effusive expressions" that would tend to make Christine distinctly endearing to members of the male sex! I don't know for sure, but I suspect the VAST majority of males are positively attracted to "normie" or "neurotypical" females--we tend to be averse to prolonged "drama" in our relationships. I agree that it is probably physically and psychologically best if females are pair-bonded and have children within their twenties, but the 1960's may have changed that preference irrevocably. I can't say that I "despise" Pearl, and again her "aggression" does not strike many men as particularly "masculine". Men seem to tend to consider females excessively masculine when they "threaten" us--if anything, Pearl is more "ultra-female" (if not particularly "feminine") in her flighty and ditzy exuberance. And she certainly is the furthest from being a "radical Feminist" by ANY stretch of the imagination, so she is VERY attractive to many males on that basis alone. Again, likely our gendered reactions. Remember, most NORMAL men are not as obsessed with looks in potential long-term mates as women tend to think, and Pearl is certainly not ugly (and of late appears to have taken to wearing more feminine attire--maybe the result Christine Grace's influence, who knows? š¤·āāļø). Alexander's recent posting is particularly relevent on this topic. I look forward to your comments on it there. Yes, I agree that many high quality men would tend (or aspire to) fall into the "sigma" category--"independence" IS indeed one of the well known hallmarks of masculinity, with "neurodivergence" being a particular, if not unpredictable, offshoot trait: There IS such a thing as "too much of a good thing". Still, wouldn't "ND women" be PARTICULARLY resistent to modern gender indoctrination, BY DEFINITION?
Joseph Omega
2024-05-10 23:52:18 +0000 UTCSo, I checked out Salty. I definitely wouldnāt consider her a sigma and I didnāt even know women could be sigmas. If so, I guess I probably would be considered one too. I really like her! I canāt be sure from the limited content Iāve watched, but it wouldnāt surprise me if she is ND, most likely Aspergerās like myself. Sheās definitely not a normie, even if she is NT. Sheās obviously intelligent, Comes across as logical and levelheaded, and I like her calm energy. Sheās also beautiful and I enjoy looking at her, despite the too-heavy goth makeup, tattoos and most unfortunate, the piercing. A shame about her time on T deepening her voice. Though I still find it pleasant to listen to her. She seems like someone I could be friends with, if we have interests common. Iām not into the goth scene or gaming, but I like that she seems to observe and care about men.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-10 21:21:46 +0000 UTC@Joseph Iām quite sure itās because of my Aspergerās/more masculine brain. So I fall somewhere in between normie, neurotypical women & men. I still have the feminine urge to just vent/have my emotions validated, but once thatās out of the way, I appreciate any actual advice/help. I love that men are so level headed, solution oriented & helpful/enlightening. And Iāve annoyed plenty of other women with my prescriptive approach to their issues, though I do validate their feelings first. I hadnāt seen that vignette, but yep, pretty typical! The term red pill is used VERY often politically. Itās absolutely not just a dating term. I had never known it could refer to dating as well until I found AG. Iāve always been in the manosphere, but the small amount of prior red pill dating content Iād seen I found annoying, because most of it is so absolute & I particularly disliked the AWALT mindset, the bitterness & anger - and all the cons so common amongst self-avowed RP content creators like Rollo. Plus Iām so discriminating about any content creators. AG is the only one for me & it's why I made a Patreon account. I have so much respect for him & have learned so much - especially about how much more feminine I am than I thought I was, in terms of mindset & behaviour. The political redpill content overlaps with gender issues & is also very existential, particularly for Western civilisation & ethnic Europeans/white people (though Asians have very low birth rates too). Itās all intentional, I believe, to destroy our civilisation, even genocide our race. I watched some more of CGS after writing that comment & I agree that I mis-judged her/saw an atypical video, though she still has something of a bimbo vibe. A sense of naĆÆvetĆ© mixed with her effusive expressions (which I find to be her most annoying trait along with her nose), I think. Sheās definitely a NT/normie though! Interesting though that both she & Keira are mid-twenties & not yet married. Women are marrying later & later, but I think Iāll always maintain that itās best to be married BY your mid-20s as a women. I am quite familiar with Pearl & I DESPISE her. Sheās so aggressive & masculine in her demeanour, sheās pushing 30 but single despite what she preaches so an utter hypocrite, & Iām convinced sheās just a shit-stirring, attention-starved, greedy grifter. She doesnāt even need the money given her rich daddy. Sheās also not all that feminine looking, & allegedly she was dumped by her black social media famous ex because of her high body count. Sheās not even been in a serious relationship AFAIK. I donāt know too much about sigmas & Iām not a fan of the whole alpha/beta categorisation (as humans are NOT a pure Tournament species, so itās just not accurate). But yeah, most high quality ND men would fall into the sigma category as I understand it. I had never heard of Salty, so Iāll need to research her more. But itās sadly now not uncommon for ND, especially autistic women, to feel conflicted/confused about their femininity & thus more easily fall for modern gender indoctrination.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-10 20:01:45 +0000 UTCok ok :D
Mark Bryski
2024-05-10 10:17:20 +0000 UTCI agree. But uneducated, incapable or incompetent women ... š¤·š½āāļø
Joseph Omega
2024-05-09 20:42:24 +0000 UTCThey don't seem very fond of us humans either, but here we all are.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-09 20:39:53 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden Good for you! As I said, you may be one of the RARE ones--almost all women that I know CLAIM to want "directness" and "honesty", but respond quite negatively when men grant their wish. I suspect the "raw truth" that men present does not often match what women want or expect to hear when they request it. There is also the tendency for men to be "prescriptive" in their communication (often derogatorily accused of "mansplaining"), and the related complementary phenomenon in women to desire empathy and compassion over resolution. I don't know if you are familiar with this funny, yet poignantly illustrative vignette: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg Yes, your apparent broad usage of the term "Red Pill" seems VERY uncommon. It is almost always reserved for "gender issues", where the differences between the sexes are highlighted and acknowledged, rather than denied or downplayed. This very channel here would be a very good example--weren't you drawn to it for that reason? Certainly there are many other uncomfortable realities in modern society that should be faced, but few seem to possess the same high level of existential consequences for humankind. Certainly men think so--I'm not sure about women. Christine Grace (Smith) is, like very many women in "red pill space", somewhat "religious-tending" (Keira Lhotan herself expressed great joy in receiving her first Bible), but not to the extent that I imagine Reallygraceful to be, from your description, so certainly NOT a "bimbo" by ANY stretch of the imagination--a curiously suggestive choice of descriptor though. As for her age, she is around the same as Keira, so mid-twenties--both QUITE young. She, like Kiera, is also unmarrried, but the latter has explicitly indicated that she has a "boyfriend", whereas I have not heard Christine do so. BTW, Chistine is ostensibly a protĆ©gĆ© of the enormously popular Hannah Pearl Davis (who goes by the YouTube handle "JustPearlyThings")--I don't know if you are familar with her. I consider Christine far FAR more balanced and MUCH less "emotional" than her mentor. PS. By "neurodivergent or āweirdā people", are you referring to what has come to be known as "Sigmas"? Or are you referring more to those like the gothic FMF detranstioner, Ryan Barnes (a.k.a. "SaltyAlty"): https://www.youtube.com/@saltymonologue She too is in her mid-twenties.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-09 04:24:41 +0000 UTCI think itās more just lots of replies to comments.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-09 00:27:18 +0000 UTCIt was certainly our most prioritised luxury! Beyond my desire for a gas stove for cooking, but that was usually standard in our area thankfully. The list of necessary luxuries mostly only grows, while the basics get ignored.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-09 00:24:20 +0000 UTCIām not a big fan of modern economies.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-09 00:22:06 +0000 UTCWowā¦thatās sad. But I only said young people were MORE prone. I do think many gain self-awareness with age, especially those who care to improve themselves. But some become more delusional - I saw that with my mother.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-09 00:21:15 +0000 UTCNo, I actually prefer to be spoken to critically in general. Itās honest, & more useful. Oh yeah, I have no doubt that I have many unconscious biases Iām not aware of. But I donāt think I dislike her bc sheās young & pretty, & Iām glad sheās speaking up on behalf of men (not to imply that you were necessarily implying I dislike her for those traits which appeal to men). Iām usually aware of when Iām envious of other women, which is quite rare for me - other than being very jealous of pregnant women & new mothers. I think I must define redpill much more broadly, bc I donāt mean just redpill wrt to dating & gender issues. Iād call Grace redpilled generally wrt to culture, with an emphasis on politics. If youāre not interested in her general content, watching her is probably not worth your time. Couldnāt find anything in her Twitter timeline that discusses dating or inter-gender topics, though I didnāt go through EVERYTHING because she tweets a lot. As for Christina Grace, I donāt particularly like her but she doesnāt strongly bother me. I do find her mildly annoying. She strikes me as a bimbo, & is overly emotional for my tastes. And very normie overall; I have a strong preference for neurodivergent or āweirdā people. I absolutely see why men like her, though, & sheās less annoying than most female content creators. She seems genuine & nice, just not for me. How old is she, is she single?
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-08 23:36:47 +0000 UTCIndeed. But don't you find it interesting how high-speed Internet has become a "necessity"? Maybe for the younger among us, social media, video games, streaming services, lattes and gym memberships have achieved such a status.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-06 22:48:11 +0000 UTCI am inclined to go much further and say, in modern economies, "It wonāt work with ALMOST ALL conventional careers" of any real substance.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-06 22:44:10 +0000 UTCBut you DO *prefer* to be spoken "sweetly" to, rather than to be spoken, say, "critically" to, correct? You would be the RARE woman if you did not. Of course I can't speak for ALL males, but I suspect there are VERY FEW of us who are turned off by her "tone". There ARE tones that men are turned off by ("masculine" ones, as you may guess), but HERS is certainly not one of them. I would not quickly underestimate the power of the unconscious in determining our likes and dislikes. You called it correctly when you said "Most men are going to like her because sheās cute, young, & says the right things". It stands to reason that these very same characterstics may well explain why many women may NOT like her. I fear I may not have the time to watch enough of Reallygraceful to be able to decipher and evaluate the quality of her red pill content "between the lines", but if you do have what you think best illustrates her position, please feel free to share it. I would be genuinely interested. I gather this is her "huge" book to which you were refering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOw5Z3BwcgA Indeed, her content DOES appear rather politcal (and somewhat "conspiratorial"), but would have expected to see SPECIFIC and DEDICATED postings on "red pill" content, if she had a strong opinion/interest on that topic. I'm not really on Twitter ("X") or any other popular social media platform, so you will have to be a little more specific in your references. Interestingly there is YET another "Grace" YouTuber who many men may also find is "cute, young, & says the right things": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRd4mvjtObg&list=PLfOXDvzWadYCR0EORnFKFeybjBCLf6I_f I would be interested on your take and tone.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-06 22:37:27 +0000 UTC@E C If ALL males everywhere were to overnight suddenly and irrevocably ignore you COMPLETELY, as if you did not exist, would you miss it? To take it further, if men were actively REPULSED by you, and would cross over to the other side of the street whenever they saw you coming, would you be OK? No offence intended, but it IS a well-known cliche that women are prone to say the most extreme of things in the passion of the moment, so I just need to make sure.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-06 21:56:08 +0000 UTCIndeed, delusions are QUITE age agnostic, it is just the NATURE of them that vary by age and gender. But younger people DO seem to have them more often and more colorfully.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-06 21:28:56 +0000 UTCNot so fast RM. The poor bastard is in his 50s
Mark Bryski
2024-05-06 19:09:12 +0000 UTCYeah, we had a very cheap very old car that was used minimally (his work paid for public transport) and our only luxuries were eating out a couple times a month (under $50 for the meal), & fibre optic internet. And we could have lived even more frugally, obviously.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-06 18:38:21 +0000 UTCIt wonāt work with many conventional careers, but there are other options for those who are determined, qualified & lucky enough. Iām also fine with one parent being the breadwinner & one staying at home, usually the woman. That works very well for many if not most couples.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-06 18:29:20 +0000 UTC@Mark Ouch! Well, I can certainly agree that young people of both genders are more prone to delusion in general, & the trend seems to be worsening.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-06 18:26:05 +0000 UTCItās not that I prefer to be spoken sweetly to - I just donāt like her tone. Itās not something I can pinpoint exactly beyond what Iāve already said. Iām also really discriminating about voices & how people speak, regardless of gender. Iām easily annoyed/put off by content creators, which is why I value the rare ones I enjoy so much. Yes, many religious people are hypocrites, agree. I mean hypocrisy in terms of discrepancy between actions & espoused beliefs. Though those actions are self-reported - I have no proof that sheās married, & ofc I donāt know if sheās acting or showing her true personality. She mostly keeps her personal bias out of her content - itās subtle - so I doubt there is a video or post that would make it clear what sheās like - youād need to watch a lot of her content & read between the lines. In a way I find that superior, bc a grifter is always trying to prove themselves & show off. Grace relies on the quality of her content (sheās published a huge book too), which is very thoroughly researched. Her Twitter might be more revealingā¦I donāt follow her on there but Iāll see if itās more elucidating.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-06 18:22:49 +0000 UTCIt certainly would be ludicrous for a society to deny educated, capable, competent woman from following their aspirations.
iamsamoth
2024-05-06 07:38:47 +0000 UTCIt is interesting how, when we understand and accept that something we have enjoyed is unhealthy for us, we can let go of it. I have been fortunate enough to do that with many things in my life.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-06 06:39:10 +0000 UTC80 comments this topic hit a nerve
Peter
2024-05-06 03:54:46 +0000 UTCNot particularly religious myself, but MOST of the TRUE and ABIDING hypocrites I've EVER encountered have been stauchly "Christian". But perhaps you are using "hypocrisy" in terms of inconsistency between demeanor and espoused beliefs, rather than true personality. Perhaps you can supply a posting from her that highlights the genuiness of her red-pill philosophy?
Joseph Omega
2024-05-06 00:35:00 +0000 UTCModern zero-sum times and sensibilities often preclude "lesser degree" reversals. I fear a cultural upheaval may be necessary resulting in many casualties.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 23:26:15 +0000 UTCAgain, the perception of what constitutes "essentials" is a non-trivial consideration. I'm sure that what you and I thought was vital was not considered so by previous generations.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 23:22:12 +0000 UTCI'm not sure of the degree to which a successful "career", the source of almost all major incomes, could be sustained "half time".
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 23:12:42 +0000 UTCActually I was being ironic and kind of facetious about women having high standards. And many men would argue that it is women who are the "lazy" ones, not having the spiritual discipline to endure the "in sickness" part of the vows. This seems a common theme expressed in red pill spaces such as this one.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 23:04:44 +0000 UTC@Julia Yeah, I think homeschooling for various life skills should be a thing that parents should plan for. Especially those things you don't learn in school.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-05-05 23:03:11 +0000 UTC@Joseph "A complete reversal" may be an overkill. But along those lines to a lesser degree is a good start.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-05-05 23:02:00 +0000 UTCWith respect to women, men are certainly NOT elitist. As you imply, I presume most women DO prefer to be "spoken sweetly to", but I'm not convinced that approach has much effect when facing such "inconvenient truths". But you are certainly correct that neither her "cuteness" nor her youth are factors that a male audience would find "cringe" or threatening.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 22:54:40 +0000 UTCNot necessarily, both parents could work half time, or they could do something in between. Whatever works for the family.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 22:35:09 +0000 UTCInflation since 2001 has been substantial, but probably not double! In 2006, my late husband supported us both on 60k & we paid ~$1500 for rent (expensive area). She needs to make better choices.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 22:32:49 +0000 UTCI think BOTH sides are QUITE prone to self-delusion, in copious quantities, with women thinking men are better off, while men thinking women are better off.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 22:32:39 +0000 UTCAhhh...you are giving men too much credit. I know of someone who was in the friendzone and considered himself to be the boyfriend because he was buying her groceries each month and paying for her drinks on some nights out. But, no sex.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-05 22:31:47 +0000 UTCI donāt think the friend zone correlates bc without sex itās not usually a relationship excluding the very religious who are likely clear wrt their relationship status. But yes, ofc she could consider him a FWB but he thinks heās a BF. Women are less self-aware so the male delusion is less common Iād bet.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 22:27:22 +0000 UTCThat was my initial impression as well, but I'm no longer aware of what young people face or perceive as "essentials". 2001 was QUITE a while back now. Also, much depends, I imagine, on WHERE you live and work--metropolitan versus suburban versus rural.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 22:24:49 +0000 UTCHomeschooling may require one parent to be homebound, wouldn't it?
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 22:21:07 +0000 UTCYou may be right. IMO there is plenty of room in that 22% (or 30%....or higher) for several narratives.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-05 22:21:01 +0000 UTCWould that be similar to when the guy thinks he has a girlfriend, but she just considers him a "friend" (as in the "friendzone")? If so, then the two numbers may tend to cancel out.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 22:17:52 +0000 UTC@Eric & @Joseph Most men are going to like her because sheās cute, young, & says the right things. Those first 2 play a big role imo. If most women find her cringe (& not because of her views which I very much share), how is she going to convert other women? Not that I necessarily think women need to be converted by other women - at least not in terms of what they say. Women will start BEING redpilled when influential women start BEING redpilled in their actions. Until then, itās all just talk, except for a minority of women who were already on the fence or raised well. Btw, Iāve identified another aspect that I dislike about her. She seems relatively low class, based on her speech, her set, & her personal style. Iām an elitist (though NOT a materialist), so sheās not for me, but I can see how many men would appreciate this as simplicity/lack of snobbery/being down to earth. I like intellectuals or at least someone with more flair.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 22:11:44 +0000 UTCYes, that probably plays a part in the stats because 22% difference is significant.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-05 22:08:10 +0000 UTC@Joseph Yup. Homeschooling is best anyway.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 22:05:19 +0000 UTCIād bet there are plenty of situations where the girl thinks she has a BF, but he just considers her a FWB/fuck buddy. This likely overlaps with the sharing aspect which Iām sure is significant too.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 22:04:21 +0000 UTCShe is an idiot and lying. I paid $550 for rent in 2001 & made $32k. Hereās how you make it makes sense. You save money you pay more principal you owe less. This takes time and you donāt just come out of the gate and live a high standard lifestyle. This dumb broad needs to get a roommate or downgrade because she clearly has no idea what it means to live under your means.
Bill Washinski
2024-05-05 22:02:50 +0000 UTCThis would likely require a complete reversal of popular trends in "Western" culture--men and women have been "equal" (and apparently interchangeable and maybe indistiguishable) since the 1960's.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 21:51:12 +0000 UTCWhat are the different ways of defining it?
Joseph Omega
2024-05-05 21:48:24 +0000 UTCUmmm yes, something like that. I mean, pheromones, feelings, potato, but something more than just practicism. Logic is for decisions, comes in handy for planning, wins in the long run, but we need the emotional part and I like it in its unaltered, irrational, passionate form.
Denes Kellner
2024-05-05 21:41:04 +0000 UTCAnd women defining single differently, too, Iād guess.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 21:01:46 +0000 UTC@Denes Being more upfront IS part of being nice in my book. I really despise deception & manipulation. Love isnāt conscious no, definitely agree on that. I think a lot of it is based on pheromones. But love isnāt necessarily enough; not if you donāt have shared goals, lack compatibility etc.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-05 20:58:59 +0000 UTCThose stats are for 18 to 29. For 30 to 49, 17% women and 25% for men. So yes, at least 8% are going into a higher age bracket. Of the remaining 22%, they are pairing up with multiple partner men regardless of the age bracket. Roughly speaking.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-04 15:21:59 +0000 UTCUnderstanding and appreciating the differences between the sexes needs to start early. So, the solution to the problems arising from this change in gender dynamics starts with education with an updated curriculum at home and in school.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-05-04 15:02:40 +0000 UTCOr, they're dating older men outside of the range that the survey took into account.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-05-04 14:52:52 +0000 UTCok one point went right over my head. 63% of young men are single - 34% of young women are single. It looks like a lot of young women are sharing the same man. Perhaps 30% of them.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-04 11:28:40 +0000 UTCThat is a good analogy for victim mentality. I dont know how gendered it is. Buts so good i want to tell it to some out
Peter
2024-05-04 07:33:46 +0000 UTCYou have been watching orion taraban. I donāt think you call it that coz HE called it that. Exactly to a word actually. They are wise words and definitely allow you to hear the though behind the words, with patients and grace, but give credit where credit is due. Those arnt your words
Peter
2024-05-04 07:28:15 +0000 UTC1. Though much depends on the definition or context of "nice", I'm guessing the two sexes can be equally "cruel" when viewed from the other side. 2. See previous distinctions in the meanings of "love" as viewed by each sex. 3. I've actually HEARD women say, "I don't care about men's problems". I suspect, being generally more emotional (and dare I say, impulsive), I'm not sure the extent to which their position is actually permanent.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-04 02:43:36 +0000 UTCOddly, I think you highlighted one of the key differences between the sexes. That's why I said, on the subject of love, women FALL while men JUMP. To walk away, men would have to UNDO their decision to jump. To walk away women only need FALL back out of love.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-04 02:35:29 +0000 UTCI just finished reading Nathaniel Branden's essay on counterfeit individualism. He asserts "irrationalists" see existence as merely a clash between their whims and the whims of others. After the "crash", irrationalists will have to learn the concept of objective reality. That requires a lot of self-care and time. Years.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-03 21:03:25 +0000 UTC1. ā , not nicer btw, we're just more visible when hurting each other. 2. I'm saying if love (not relationship) is a question of a conscious decision, that's not what I understand as love. It's more like acting as. 3. ā Hashtag convinced, I already started to name our kids.
Denes Kellner
2024-05-03 13:43:54 +0000 UTC1. Absolutely though imo men are actually nicer. 2. Ahh you explained this further, yeah, I agree but I still think this is a simplification. 3. Suicide/addiction, dirty & high risk jobs, rejection, misandric family law, having to build your worth rather than just being born with itā¦
RhodiumMaiden
2024-05-03 13:40:33 +0000 UTCMan, bravo! This was the most clearly concisely made video I have ever seen on this topic! I've saved this video off-line to show everyone if the subject is brought up! Bravo man!
MarkGauci85
2024-05-03 13:30:42 +0000 UTCI agree it is another advantage to understand each others contribution better. But also, I have to say that most younger people (~ under 40) probably understand that anyway. Everybody who has lived alone for an extended time in their live knows both professional work and housework to some degree.
Hermann
2024-05-03 09:15:25 +0000 UTCi can walk away from someone I love if the person is bad for me. Sure. Walking away is a decision. Love is not, or let's say much less of a decision. Literature is full of proof, even popular song lyrics.
Denes Kellner
2024-05-03 05:05:25 +0000 UTCI hadnāt heard someone take the logical step from āhoe-flationā to āweāre now in a bubble.ā If weāre following similar logic to the .com crash, and the ā08 crash, then itās really a matter of accruing enough capital to get exactly what you want once the bubble bursts.
Josh
2024-05-03 03:53:41 +0000 UTCUnfortunately, being part of the same species, males and females are FORCED to hang out with each other, wrong OR right. But, interesting: Maybe the problem is that women's stardards are SO high, and that explains why they "walk away" at the 75% rate in divorces. Certainly that's one interpretation.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-03 03:09:51 +0000 UTCI think I understand. However, I am of the contention that men and women claim to possess entirely different approaches to love: Women FALL while men JUMP. Not saying that this is what ACTUALLY happens, but this is how each side prefers to think about it. Women LOVE to "be out of control" and let the river of love GUIDE them. Men however LOVE to "be in control" and the master of their destiny, swimming against the tides of fate. Bottom line, love CHOOSES women (and hence can abandon them), while men CHOOSE the one to love, so it is a point of honor to keep their word. The "marriage vows" were CLEARLY a male invention. My take.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-03 00:03:35 +0000 UTCRegarding #2: Men and women don't experience love the same way. I call it the "I feel right now" sandwich. When a woman says "I love you" or "I hate you," it's a feeling. For men it's a fact. Using the sandwich: "I feel I love you right now" or "I feel I hate you right now" is the true meaning.
Eric Linden
2024-05-02 23:56:40 +0000 UTCOne small addition: I think a MAJOR advantage in the woman having a supplemental career, is so that she gains a deeper respect and appreciation of the full scope, effort and sacrifice the main breadwinner has to endure. Likewise maybe, men should have SOME supplemental domestic duties, so that they gain a deeper respect and appreciation of the full scope, effort and sacrifice the main homemaker has to endure.
Joseph Omega
2024-05-02 22:41:11 +0000 UTCyes
Eric Linden
2024-05-02 22:07:30 +0000 UTCI used to think very traditionally, but after thinking about it and watching many colleagues I came bascially to the same conclusion as Alexander: It still makes sense to have the dad as main provider, partly just for practical reasons: Just biologically, the woman has the main reproductive burden to take. And usually she has a better inclination for raising small children. But if she is still working at least part time that has a lot of benefits: The household finances are supported. The man has a bit less pressure, as there is a second income to keep you over water if he struggles for a while. The wife can continue her career, maybe slower but still. She has something going on outside the house, with different people, where she is getting respect and a feeling of independence. And she can develope her abilites and utilize her education. So all in all I really think this is the future. And frankly, this is pretty much what I already see at least in my area. Even very outspoken "feminists" are suddenly going this way once they actually have children. Simply because it is usually the most practical.
Hermann
2024-05-02 21:58:24 +0000 UTCAbsolutely. Here's what I mean. When women say "I want this and this and this OR I don't love you", it's a blatant lie. When you love someone, it just happens to you. You don't "do" it, in the literal, conscious way, you are a victim of your own feelings. Kind of. And when someone blackmails you to withdraw love because you lack some very specific, very material assets like a certain height or income, you can know for sure there's no real love involved. Ticking all the boxes will make her willing to marry you, sure, but then something mysterious will slowly happen to your relationship that seemingly has no reason and no explanation, but most importantly, no cure. She will cut herself free because she never REALLY, truly loved you. Again this is my opinion. But I think this is the big lie behind the "deserve culture" and it needs to be pointed out.
Denes Kellner
2024-05-02 21:25:20 +0000 UTCSmack on! šš½
Joseph Omega
2024-05-02 20:55:33 +0000 UTCCan you further elaborate on the meaning and significance of #2?
Joseph Omega
2024-05-02 20:54:10 +0000 UTCI mean, your wife, personally, may likely know your problems. But what men struggle with, as in, typical grownup male problems, in general? Nnnope.
Denes Kellner
2024-05-02 20:53:43 +0000 UTCVery well phrased! May I use it? š
Joseph Omega
2024-05-02 20:30:41 +0000 UTCWomen desire attention. Men accomplishment.
Eric Linden
2024-05-02 18:54:20 +0000 UTCLets see whom we have here. I worry. Recently fd signifier had a peice on the manosphere and how left tube, rollo, whatever, dr jbp, etc are all making money of the missery of men. If it wasnt for this misserable desperate desinfranchised group of men, he wouldnāt have made a multi million viewādebunking the manosphere ā video There is an entire industry around the poor sods. I wonder if this is another person trying to get on the gravey train.
Peter
2024-05-02 18:41:00 +0000 UTCIām going to ask my wife later for five problems in my life.
Eric Linden
2024-05-02 18:39:56 +0000 UTCMen and women are meant to complement one another, they are both evolutionarily designed to be the best at what they are naturally; neither one is better, and both are necessary for society. Instead of truly empowering women in their instinctual and natural best, feminism has transmogrified women into something abominable: all of men's privileges without any of the responsibility or accountability. It is turning women into inferior men, all the while decimating men's motivation and purpose, and in so doing, turning men into inferior men as well. So now we have an entire society of inferior men, and no one is better for it.
Hyperion
2024-05-02 18:39:43 +0000 UTCI think this "middle path" has potential. It is certainly the most pragmatic approach that I've heard being presented...
DreiRaven
2024-05-02 16:31:47 +0000 UTCSome facts women will never agree on, no matter how inevitably true: 1. There are just as many bad people among women than among men. 2. If you can choose who you love, it's not love 3. Women can't say 5 real problems in a men's life (try it, ask any of them!), and it's because they don't care. So before any woman talks about relationships, my first question is, do we have the 3 check marks above? If not, we don't talk. I'm not listening to women who think women are "just better people", love is a reward, and men don't have problems. š¤·
Denes Kellner
2024-05-02 13:44:39 +0000 UTCIf you are not already aware of this (hopefully) rising star, I would HIGHLY recommend checking out her channel, and let me know what you think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SqTrBfZ6mQ
Joseph Omega
2024-05-02 10:27:06 +0000 UTCWhat you are suggesting is both sensible and pragmatic. However, anyone who believes their options are unlimited will not feel compelled to adjust their expectations in any way. In fact, they may raise them. Women in general can go onto Bumble and get 1,000 likes within one week. They are viewing their sexual market value through that lens. Until they see this as a false valuation ("we are all tens") for their SMV, the bubble will continue.
Mark Bryski
2024-05-02 08:44:02 +0000 UTC
