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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Are women submissive or just lazy?

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Are women submissive or just lazy?

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No diseases or invasive flora or fauna? Taxes? Compliance with local laws, like dress codes, time zones and prohibitions against littering?

Joseph Omega

Good point. Yep, there is definitely a "harbour commission" on my island. In fact, that should be a real reason to believe the island is safe. Your metaphor makes me wonder what should the harbour commission expect from a boat when it moors itself to the island.

Mark Bryski

Well, in the same way that islands need to "check the documents" of the boats they allow to dock there, so to do boats need to ensure "safe harbour" before mooring for extended stays.

Joseph Omega

I do believe it is best for the relationship and my personal well being that the man leads on anything that falls within the masculine domain. "Lead" is the key word. As for women setting the standards, that sounds like hypergamy. I see hypergamy as something that can work to my advantage when it comes to a quality woman. I gained this perspective from watching "How To Make Yourself Irreplaceable". In my opinion, one of Alexander's best videos.

Mark Bryski

The risk is his community going into that persons comments and alex getting a even worse rep

Peter

I appreciate this . One thing i don’t like about the manosphere and some of even Alexes videos. It that it seems like its not a partnership. Having a woman is like having a pet. And even though i often hear it. I have huge trouble accepting that. This should be a partnership, each playing to strengths to make alot more than each could on their own. But this man providing 100% emotionally, materially, and women just taking and setting the standards. It wreeks of exploitation! Interdependent relationships with a adult with accountability and agency. Yes please

Peter

I am far from a high value man. But i am of high quality character. But I’ve made huge gains in certain areas of my character and the way I think of myself . Im ok with me, im ok taking up space, im ok with requiring RECIPROCAL EFFORT.

Peter

well then, I guess I gave 17y of my life to the short straw.

Mircea N.

Plenty of women just naturally follow their man’s lead in general while still having their own autonomy & competence. It doesn’t require much thinking about, ironically.

RhodiumMaiden

We need to find a way to work "safe harbour" into the metaphor.

Mark Bryski

I’m 30

Andre Pinzon

For women there is certainly lazy submission as you say, but there is also lazy contrarian. Laziness is the red flag, regardless of the behavior OR the gender. For men there is lazy authoritarian and lazy accommodation. The effort and commitment an "island" puts into the upkeep of its infrastructure is just as crucial as the effort and commitment that a "boat" puts into its moorings and the nurturing of the isle it now calls home.

Joseph Omega

How old are you Andre?

Eric Linden

Trad wife, soft girl, Stepford wife, turn off brain, total submission. All red flags. I want her to be feminine. I want to be the leader, and have the final say. But she needs to take the lead with many things. I will come to her and change the tire, but she needs to watch until she knows how, because I want her to be able to change it if I am not around. Division of roles, her mostly feminine, him mostly masculine. But some men love cooking, and some women love painting or carpentry. Interdependence, rights and responsibilities, both have a say in everything, but man having the final say.

Eric Linden

Maybe somewhere on the Patreon you could list a bibliography of future videos you download for us.

Eric Linden

I'm inclined to think of such women as relinquishing responsibility and accountability, while claiming plausible deniability for when things go awry. In my personal experience, women of these type are the quickest to blame and shame when things don't go their way. Submission is not blind trust devoid of contemplation or deliberation, but an understanding that a man is ultimately accountable for the decisions he made on behalf of those under his purview. I should think that true submission is when a woman yields to a man under the trust accrued and fortified through his past actions and behaviors which undeniably demonstrate that he has the wherewithal to adjust and adapt to, and overcome the vagaries of life. It is to a woman's benefit to mindfully see to it that her man succeeds -- with her support when necessary -- as she should be just as equally invested in a desirable outcome.

Hyperion

I share the opinion that anyone who wants to surrender their independence of thought deserves suspicion over how reliable they will be in a relationship. This type of submission is the exact opposite of a quarrelsome women. Being on the extreme end of a spectrum, regardless of which side it is on, has its limitations. In my mind, a strong relationship is one where there is inter-dependence because that creates an opportunity to feed each others growth. You need independent people who are independent thinkers to have inter-dependence.

Mark Bryski

What a lot of women sell as submissive is just one-sided manipulation. And she’s not really deeply desiring the guy in question, so there’s no sense sitting down and negotiating stuff. She simply sees the guy as not measuring up, so he should get out before she destroys him. Part of being submissive is avoiding a narcissistic mentality in which a woman does not consider herself self more precious than he. A truly submissive woman wants and feels like she needs to measure up.

Todd McDaniels

Those women who wanna do "nothing" and let their man take care of them are a honey trap. They are explaining the behavior of dogs and children. It's entitlement, but in the reverse circumstance.

Alexander Knight

Both variants are true. Some women are lazy and follow the trend hoping to get something out of it( just like most feminists did), others make a informative decision to not go astray from what it is to be feminine: to care, to nurture, to inspire. It is much more than just the idea of being a "trad" wife, but unfortunately, feminism has left more women confused and rootless than society dares to admit.

Mircea N.

I don't have the links sorry, I don't save them, I just download the videos

Alexander Grace

Hey Alexander, is there any way you could give us links to the clips you use? Maybe just for us here on Patreon? It would be very useful.

Eric Linden

Sorry about the terrible grammar

Andre Pinzon

Hey Alexander, great video. At the end of this video you said seek some advice from male friends about certain things. So I thought I might ask for some advice here, or maybe it could be a good topic for a video. I have been having this issue where I become hyper aware of girls I’m attracted to at parties and out and about and normally I’m very emotionally calm but for some reason that I can understand yet, I become one of two things, and I’m not sure even sure what which one it is or if it is something else. I feel like I become super predatorial or like prey, I’m not certain, it’s like this weird feeling where I can sense exactly where they are and everything they do becomes super noticeable, and I don’t know how to get rid of it, it’s super annoying because I can’t be myself, it’s very frustrating because it makes me not be able to be myself. And I’m not sure if I’m literally terrified of woman, (I have been hurt quite badly in the past) or if it’s me just being super interested in an attractive girl, another thing is I’m not don’t really feel nervous.. man I dunno haha, but I can’t seem to shake it

Andre Pinzon


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