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Early Access. Danielle Redlick Trial.

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Early Access. Danielle Redlick Trial.

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This is a murky case, but while I started out skeptical of Danielle, and I absolutely believe that she was trying to deflect blame after Michael's death which is why she lied and tampered with evidence, I found her testimony to be highly believable and at the same time found the prosecution's arguments to be incredibly flimsy and petty. I don't think Danielle is without fault in the events that led up to Michael's death -- I think her own admitted alcoholism is likely to have made her the instigator of conflict at least some of the time. But there is enough corroboration about Michael's violent temper that I believe her when she outlined she abuse she suffered. She is either the most accomplished liar with the greatest foresight I've ever seen on stand, or she is telling the truth.

Ben L.

Going to leave my final thoughts here, outside of youtube's misogynist bubble. After a week of hearing about DDG, Diddy, and Chris Brown (among the usual abusers in our faces every day), i was convinced women would never see justice again but im glad Danielle got a semblance of it. If she had any, his ass would've been in jail when he started hunting her like prey. Its cases like this that make you understand why men in power ice women out of law careers. Because women see through their bullshit, see when victims start giving their abusers attitude back. They dont want any smoke for them and their buddies. This is cut and dry defense. I can't believe the man that hunted her down and was a violent drunk wasn't the one to initiate the violence AGAIN. Danielle had to deal with so many aggressive men in power—her husband/stepdad and the prosecutor who made a jackass of himself—that she stands tall next to women like giselle pelicot for me.

ashley rockandparole

TIL they do victim impact statements for tampering with evidence. Professional accomplishments don't preclude being an abusive husband and a teenage daughter can hold a nasty grudge against her mother for unrelated reasons, but on the other hand, Danielle is the only one who was there who can tell a story. The only (pointless) thing we can really do is project our own grievances and insecurities onto this case and declare a monster.

Schmeeko

I’m with you Dave. I go back and forth on this case. But I think the jury made the only decision they could with the information they were given.

Gigi

I find it a bit odd that you describe her as a victim that was young and vulnerable, then you say she chooses to be a victim in her diary. Playing a victim is more in line with being upset that the person you are separated from, even if attempting to reconcile, because they are communicating with another man after going on dates with another woman even after being caught. Any time I’ve ever written in my diary, I’m pretty sure it was to complain about something privately. If she was young and inexperienced when they started dating, it would make sense that she has an immature movie idea of what love is. She may have even idealized their relationship as “destiny” bc to her romance is like the movies. Some happenstance coming together, a climactic and dramatic conflict, a reconciliation with happily ever after. Men may not always react aggressively when they experience ED, but if a man has tied his masculinity to having a fully functional penis he might. Add the nagging worry that his partner may stray because of it and throw testosterone treatments to that , it’s very possible that someone starts acting out of character. If coworkers weren’t able to work with people who are different at home than they are in public, there wouldn’t be any unsolved crimes. No serial killers. No psychopaths blending in to society at all. I don’t know that anything that she said was true, but I felt your analysis has a lot of absolutes. I wanted to add some perspectives that maybe aren’t from your experiences that are worth considering. Not necessarily because they are true for this case, but because the possibilities exist in general.

Jessica H

Hi Dave. Other than the alcohol involvement, this could have been me. I was in a 20 year marriage with an abusive, covert narcissist. Behind closed doors he engaged in psychological torture, which tears you down in a way I cannot describe. The only things my teenagers ever heard leading up to the very end, was only “my” voice being raised. Because behind closed doors, he would manipulate and quietly abused until I would lose it. Then he would use that against me to prove his point, that I was some sort of crazy person. And myself (and his first wife) were the only people who ever saw this. My ex-sister in law saw this (in a sense) because her ex-husband (the two men are brothers) abused her in the same textbook covert narcissist ways. It wasn’t until his rage spilled over into our children that they saw what the truth was. Same with my exSIL, too. Once their Dad showed his abuse openly, then it came together a little more clearly. I could see my own kids testifying against me, if something were to have snapped. Because for their entire lives, the abuse happened quietly behind closed doors. His coworkers and our neighbors or friends wouldn’t have seen it, either. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I finally took the kids and left when his rage spilled out in front of them. Our oldest son had just finished cancer treatment, and the pediatric oncologist had called out his Dad’s lack of involvement. He snapped into a blind rage on Halloween 2022 over an innocuous incident— me intervening to send the kids to bed at 10pm. He didn’t like that I brought their fun to an end. Yep, until then, he had presented as “fun dad” and “never laid a hand” on anyone (in my kids’ eyes). That night, though, he snapped and physically threatened me in front of the kids. The black rage in his eyes made me fear for my life. The kids and I had gotten away from him, locked ourselves in the bathroom. My oldest (14 at the time) crying and begging me to leave and divorce him. Terrified, I took the kids and we moved out. He has permanently damaged his relationship with his kids. It would have all become clear sooner or later— unless his relationships are truly superficial, he cannot sustain them. He is unable to actually feel any sort of “care” for other humans. I went to a women’s crisis center and was urged to file DV charges against him. But I was too scared. That was a mistake. He has since engaged in a nearly 3 year campaign (still ongoing), to financially ruin me. I am being punished for leaving him, yet he has completely discarded and abandoned all of us. Refused to get help for his anger, pushed me away and quite literally stepped over me as I was sobbing and broken on the floor. When I was diagnosed with cancer myself, he hung up on me… I was calling from the emergency room after having a year’s worth of debilitating symptoms, finally with a kidney cancer diagnosis, and he let me know he didn’t like my “bad attitude” and I was getting what I “deserved.” I have since found out that I had been his unknowing affair partner 25 years ago, and he walked out on his first wife after she caught him cheating, she was diagnosed with cervical cancer. The jerk even told me (as he was cheating on her with me) that he was the victim of infidelity. In truth, his first wife had been SA’ed by her boss. She told me this tearfully 25+ years later. She is still traumatized by all of it, including the abuse of her first husband. My voice shakes in the same way… his abuse caused her deep trauma. I do think my ex also had similar insecurities. This is how covert narcissists prey on women— they act big, when they are really quite small, fragile boys. My ex had deep bedroom insecurities— he had always been on the small-side, but a surgery in his 40s left him with a micropeen, and his anger darkened at that point. So this guy has a diabolical track record of cheating on his wives, abusing them behind closed doors, engaging in manipulation and psychological abuse, verbal and financial abuse, and does it in a way that makes him look like a saint. This what psychopaths do. I am so glad to be away from him. He broke me, though. I know I can never trust another partner again. I’m resolved to live out the second half of my life alone. He’s ruined me financially, he’s ruined my spirit. My ability to trust and love, or be loved. It was basically like killing me internally. No bloodshed. I’m still alive. But he absolutely destroyed my spirit. I believe Danielle. I think in the coming years, with trauma therapy, she will come to better understand what she has been through. Let’s also not forget, he preyed upon a much younger woman—- his *stepdaughter*. Yuck. Remember, when her mom died, he had only been married 6 months. He created a trauma bond and power differential to control her. Even as she matured, that trauma bond and the yo-yo of a narcissistic relationship is just crazy making. Think of your worst breakup, where someone has broken your heart. Now make it happen every-other-week for decades. That’s what it’s like. It’s a cycle of abandonment and self-abandonment, catching breadcrumbs and giving him another chance, and then he emotionally discards you again. It really messes you up. I do believe he preyed upon her, I do believe that he was choking her and she had to get away. Without the clouded judgement that happens with alcohol, I am guessing she could have left like I did— scared, but everyone stayed alive.

Fraujoolie

This case is really a tricky one. The whole time I felt myself hoping Danielle was not guilty. Mike really sounded like a POS from her testimony, REALLY reminded me of my extremely manipulative first boyfriend. I didn't endure physical abuse but he would try and act all close to me in private but in public he would call me crazy, threaten to call the cops, etc. I do feel very sorry for their kids, as they don't deserve any of this. I don't know the character of either of these people, but I agree that the jury got it right, nowhere enough evidence to convict her of murder.

Reagan

I truly hate injustice. If she is the manipulative killer I think she is, there’s some peace knowing the kids don’t want anything to do with her. If she’s decent at all that fact should sting as much as incarceration.

Tim

Outdid yourself again Dave. It's very rare I don't have an instinct about a defendant from a few minutes of testimony. But she had me stumped a bit. A few thoughts I'd like to share with you: I am in an age gap of 18 years. I'm saying this to prove I clearly have nothing against age gap relationships on its surface. However the way in which he dated and eventually married her was without a doubt immoral and absolutely points to a power imbalance, therefore implying coercion must have been involved. The reason I say this is because at the time she was undergoing grief, as he was as well I suppose. He would have gained an undue intimate knowledge of her via his relationship with her mother, the kind of knowledge she would not have in turn been granted. Thus when he started courting her, he had not only an age based imbalance, but a financial AND knowledge based imbalance. Once she moved into his home, before she claims anything romantic happened, she was now also dependent on him for housing/financially. I can imagine a world in which even if she had an inclination to reject his advances, likely her first thoughts would be 'well where would I live...how much access would i continue to have with my sister' etc. In my opinion, this says a whole lot about their dynamic. As the story went on however I became concerned with her wording and phrasing in both her diary entries and emails to him. She appears to be overly sentimental/romantic and she uses this to justify her erratic behavior and choices. Things like "I always wanted a Romeo and juliet type love'. This is an objectively very odd thing for a middle aged woman to say. Not only does she know that love story ended in grotesque tragedy, but she should be aware that star crossed teenage love is not a viable or realistic goal. (Granted this doesn't make her guilty. One could argue she is just immature in this thinking...however at other times she displays such a sharp and dazzling maturing and intellect that I would argue this is unlikely). She also chooses a victim mentality quite a lot, even in her diary entries. I don't often see victims enjoy feeling like and portraying themselves as such.... I do however see it used alot by those who view it as a convenient way to deflect from their personal shortcomings. I also become suspicious of her as she described the period of time he was struggling with erectile disfunction. There's no other way to put this then....it just sounds like bullshit. Like a movie. Like the way she described him feeling was something she read in a self help book about how some men may feel or lash out due to masculine insecurities. It's not actually consistent with how men behave when undergoing these issues. While it's certainly true it can do a huge number on their temperament and self image... it's rare it results so directly in psychical violence. If it did however, it's highly unlikely he would have the insight to be able to specifically link his mental health issues directly to his erectile disfunction. I guess what I'm trying to say is, it sounds like a woman with no experience actually having a penis and the hormones that are associated with it, came in and imagined what it may be like in an effort to provide reasoning for a narrative. Not a realistic telling of events. Throughout the 8 years they were rocky, she never once was kicked out of the home, but rather he removed himself multiple times. This suggests that she had far more control over their dynamic then she would like us to believe. However my mind was still undecided until I heard the witness account of her being pulled away from an altercation with two strangers after trying to assault and bite them. The woman presented om the stand is not an unstable or psychotic person, something that would explain this behavior. Absent of that, then this is behavior she clearly feels at some time or another is appropriate and proportionate. I can not stress this enough, an individual who reacts so violently and irrationally when upset, is not a safe or normal person. They will almost certainly find themselves in escalating voilent scienaros again. The level of voilence is likely ro increase as well, since it appears there was little reprecussions. Just think about it logically, how many times in your life have you been so angry at a stranger you would think to even bite them? Let alone actually do it? The messages written about his character are also very telling. By her version of events, this man was a narssisisic 'jeckle and hyde' meaning he would have to have at least signs of Anti social personality and Narssisisim. Anyone who has delt with a human with both these traits will be able to attest that it is simply impossible to work along side them closely for decades and still have a warm opinion of them. Let alone 250 people reaching the same conclusion. This could only be possible if he also showed traits of sociopathey... and even she didn't accuse him of that. There's no evidence to indicate that. And finally, the way her children speak about her is very, very damning. While I don't doubt their image of their father is clouded by his death. And I don't doubt that the man she interacted with behind close doors was a different version of the dad the children got... I will also mention that the impact statement was highly emotional and the teen still appears to be very traumatized. No doubt her opinion will evolve and shift as time goes on. That being said...the daughters statement lines up quite snuggly with the rest of the indication that this woman is a highly manipulative and toxic individual. I believe the daughter when she says that her mother ruined her life. Growing up with the parents they did means that both those children would be very intelligent and insightful individuals. I think we should take her at her word. So do I believe that she planned a murder of this man? I doubt it. The evidence doesn't show that. And if she did 'plan' to murder him... let's be honest she was smart enough to do alot better job of covering her tracks. I think its very likely she got angry, as she often did. He threw verbal daggers at her, as he often did... and her rage took over. I think the resulting 11 hours before calling involved alot of mental gymnastics in an effort to justify herself, planning and rehearsing. Thanks again for a great video. Gave me alot to think about

eden Skye

It’s working now

Liz

🫶 you’re the best!!

Maryk22

You’ve been on a roll lately Dave, I can hardly keep up! Recent posts have worked for me btw, but I know not for everyone.

Marie


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