WATCH PARTY: KINGDOM Legendary War EP5

KQ knows that the only outcome they want from this show is recognition so of course they know they’ll let Mingi stay away and focus on himself because like i said that the only reason why they accepted to be in it is to get the recognition. if Mingi made it clear he won’t participate in the comeback, which is way more important than this popularity show, then it is obvious that he won’t participate or KQ ask of him to do so. tbh as much as the show was enjoyable, i just want it to end like rn because the shit ATEEZ had been going through since the beginning of it is just a big no for me and it doesn’t settle well for me how they’re the only target of everyone.

화성

I'm an Atiny .. but I wonder why nobody talks about The Boyz? their performance was breathtaking .. they had to be in top 3..

Me too! I love ATEEZ so much. They feel like they were born to perform. It’s amazing. And BTOB did amazing too, I was impressed by them.

Nebula

I think if you look at the rankings you can see that the experts and the performers had a different idea of what it meant to be reborn. It looks like the experts focused more on the song and possibly the choreo while the performers wanted a different kind of growth (like SF9's style did a 180). I get SKZs reborn idea, but it was more subtle than the others. I probably would have ranked them first if it hadn't been for the re-born theme.

D Gal

I'm just super impressed with ATEEZ. Their stage is quite complex but they make it look effortless. Having said that...BTOB's performance for the sheer joy was tops :)

Phemeous G

I am so glad KQ isn't making Mingi participate in this. That was my first thought when I saw KQ releasing a statement about the rumors being spread and how it would affect the boys. The whole "competition" of this show gives me anxiety! So I just try not to think of it as a competition and enjoy all the stages. This is a showcase of talent and something the groups don't get to do as far as these types of stages. All that aside, when and if these groups get to do concerts again it would be mind blowing if they would perform these songs ... or how about they do a Kingdom tour! 😎

Sinbad

Wow CactusDragon!! Thank You!!! I did not know how much I needed that fancam in my life, and he's my freakin' BIAS!!! So GOOD!! 🤩🤩🤩

Zesti

I totally feel the same way about IN's voice crack, it made the the song all the more emotional. It's such a good performance, I've been streaming it relentlessly!!

Zesti

Since you mentioned Seonghwa's intense face on stage I feel the need to link you his Hala Hala fancam ^^ (Not as reaction, just whenever you personally feel in the mood to check it out) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIRxX0m01WI I just love how he stays in character on stage and HalaHala was A+ stage-demon phase of Seonghwa, he looks literally possessed hehe :3

CactusDragon

Yeah I thought SKZ first round performance was kind of disappointing and hard to follow, and the unsynced rap really didn't do it for me. Their second round performance was SO much better, no idea what the judges were thinking.

Puffin

I'm massively proud of what Stray Kids did. I think most people were expecting them to take a BTOB song and make it more in the SKZ style but instead they wanted to show another side to them, one that many people may not know. They're not known for their vocals so highlighting that in this performance showed everyone that wow, they actually CAN sing. (Also Seungmin is a natural baritone and hitting those notes? Uff, that guy has worked HARD). I hate that they made Jeongin's voice crack a big thing then when it reality it really wasn't. If anything, it made the performance all the more emotional, I think. Chan even said that he had to fight back his own tears because of how intense the performance was. I'm so bummed they ranked so low but am massively proud of them for trying something different.

kerid

I noticed that he was already limping at 0:51 before the b-boying move in his fancam, it's when he was coming up behind Yunho and Wooyoung. Possibly a pinched nerve from the way where he was holding his back, or maybe he strained a muscle I'm guessing. Yet he still threw himself so hard into the performance.

Aislin

Yes i kinda feel the same way. Skz performance was epic af but i think their cover is not much different compared to the original one. its like they didnt give me the "this is skz song" feel. just my opinion..

I think the reason stray kids ranked so low was because of the song. I felt like the song was not TOO different from the original and the concept was not really clear for a lot of people. If the nail the concept then it would probably give them a higher ranking.

Virtual TimeLine

Watching the San fancam, I didn't realize he had hurt himself during the bboying move (so early in the routine) and STILL gave it 110% the rest of the routine. And Thina, I LOVE that you got the Casa de Papel reference. I think there are talks of a korean remake.

Jessica Lee

lol ikonics are already anticipating how many memes they can soak out of this coming ep and I know atiny are gonna get at least 1-3 more of 'ateez randomly lifting chairs' lol

Aislin

kingdom is dead ass reminding me of old-school MAMAs - every fandom at each other's throats while mnet profits 🙄

Aislin

I thought the same! I really thought it was part of the performance, to portray the emotion of the song. dammit mnet quit poking and prodding to get someone to cry 😒🤬

Aislin

Aw I.N. I didn’t even notice his voice crack until they pointed it out on the show. I thought it was just a part of the emotional performance. I’m here for the BTOB and SKZ interactions!

Dani

Twitter is the most toxic place ever, just stay out of it. Fans are getting too emotional with the rankings when we know it’s Mnet who’s the snake. I’m a stay and I can say the real fandom (not on Twitter) are not bullying anyone. We spread the votes fair and square (unlike other fandoms who exclude SKZ in the voting). The whole competition is f*ed up anyway, can’t wait for Kingdom to be over.

Hello Stranger

One of my favourite parts of the ep was all the groups being sucked into ATEEZ's storyline and trying to figure it out as much as atiny's were lol! And yeah I think Mnet really could be more transparent with the expert voting, like having a specific ranking for choreography, vocals, set design etc. just so we get an idea of what they liked and didn't like, esp because fandoms have really been out for ATZ's blood like it's their fault they ranked highly 😭and the fan voting percentage just doesn't sit right with me. It's literally a game of 'who has the biggest fanbase' or 'what fanbase is willing to create 2342333 accounts for their faves to win' which then just turns into a game of popularity. If anything, I'm just happy ATEEZ is getting some exposure out of this (as they were fairly unknown in Korea). Really looking forward to having a break from streaming/voting/witnessing ugly fanwars and just enjoying what looks like a chaotic ep to come!

Naia19

How did I not know my favorite YouTuber is from Houston? H-Town here too ❤ All that aside, all the performances were amazing 👏 I'm rooting for Ateez all the way!!! I can't help it, they're the only group I stan 🥰

Juanita Barrera

I agree with you, this whole competition is totally unfair and each group can relate. Sadly it’s true as you said ATEEZ/ATINY are being mistreat by the other fandoms, especially from a certain very big fandom with big views, at the point that KQ Entertainment had to released a warning of taking legal actions. We are very thankful to all IKONIC and other fandoms that support and give us strength. Besides that I’m super happy that all the groups will have time to relax and play along because this past episodes has been very tired for them. Thanks Tina for your reactions ❤️

INFP gang unite! (damn enters) Okay so literally I think the 'expert' votes are a total joke, as is the fan voting. (There's some seriously screwy editing that has me suspicious. Plus like... ya know, it's Mnet.) I've never seen any sort of show give that kind of percentage to fan votes bc that turns into a 'who can make more trash accounts' and 'who has the bigger fandom' and I've got *serious* questions about who these supposed experts are. (Someone on YT commented that they saw that out of 20 'experts' a majority of them are property/investor 'experts' and to me that seems like some shenanigans are happening behind the scenes because for a performance of idols, dancing/singing judges should be the majority.) The fact that BtoB and skz got such low ranks?? That makes no sense whatsoever. This week's ep's performances should have been 1, 2, 3. (And hoooooo do I have *theories* about Ateez.) There was absolutely no reason to rank those two performances so low other than 'experts' really having no expertise in what they're supposedly judging. Okay, now that my total and complete lack of faith in Mnet rant is done... (honestly I'm thinking that the performance preview was the final ranking that Mnet's going for, which isn't fair to any one of the groups on this program, if they 'win' or not.) Okay seriously done with that now lmao. *HALA FUCKING TEEZ* All over the back of the van, the podium, the newspapers - Hearts Awakened Live Alive. Their Halateez outfits/photoshoots. (Some sharp eyed atiny noticed the headline being something like 'the white masked men/government decalres the black pirates outlaws') Did they steal the Cromer to prevent the fate of the 100 sec intro?? If they're going backwards in time, then that Cromer is *definitely* something you would lock up in a safe. The black and white masked dancers are the 'security guards' for the white masked men, but possibly Halateez influences them after Hongjoong does the speech? (ALSO HELLO BLOCK B'S VERY GOOD HOMAGES WITH RUNNING THE VAN INTO THE BUILDING AND THE GUNS AND THE MASKS) Things to think about since all of these performances fit into Ateez's overall storyline. and pls pls pls let them perform Hala Hala. Demon Line was out and *shining* in this performance. Let those little demons fully rip on Hala Hala. I want to see people's faces when San absolutely loses his damn mind on that third chorus.

Aislin

I find it funny how fans are fast to say that the judging and self vote is unfair yet they believe the fan vote is fair. The fan votes is the most unfair part of this competition because obviously the group with the biggest fandom will win regardless of their performance quality. So to the fans who dont agree with the judges and the actual groups themselves voting results.. SIT DOWN cause this whole competition is unfair, learn to Be humble and deal with it like the rest of us and learn to not discredit the groups who so rank high, they also worked hard and deserve so respect! All I'm taking from this show is IKON the most mistreated group by mnet. and ATEEZ/ATINY the most mistreated and BULLIED group by the other fandoms (except for some IKONIC who keep leaving comments encouraging ATINY and showing ATEEZ love and support, thank you Ikonic for showing everyone what a amazing fandom looks like. ATINY appreciate it more then you will ever know, you help us feel less small, less alone and all the advice you've given us on how to handle all the hate we getting from a certain very big fandom is priceless, we know if any fandom knows about haters and how yo deal with them its IKONIC, so thank you, it's really appreciated ATINY love you.) Jealousy is evil that's all I'm saying.

Miss T

I was surprised at the results from the Experts point of view as well, the only thing I can think of is that the bottom 2 teams allowed many moments with the individuals while other groups had more group moments As for the Teams Voting for each other, you can tell which team pairings voted for each other and which didn't Anyway, I found it really annoying as a fan, lols :P Having said that. my favorite group is killing the views for thier song on Mnet

James Mclean

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James Mclean

Thina jokes aside, it is eerie how similar you and Hongjoon are! You guys are even the same MBTI INFP (So is San).

Miss T