The stuff both of yall have been able to predict is so impressive lol. My first watch I didn’t catch like any of it
Stanley Livingston
2025-05-06 22:05:23 +0000 UTC
Sounds more like you do. The "dictionary definition" of soap opera says they're long running serial shows that are primarily characterized by MELODRAMA, ensemble casts, and SENTIMENTALITY. Apart from an ensemble cast, this does not describe GoT AT ALL if we're going by dictionary definitions of melodrama and sentimentality. Read the first paragraphs of melodrama and sentimentality on Wikipedia. They do not aptly describe GoT according to how most people understand the show.
SixDickSally
2025-03-16 16:01:55 +0000 UTC
I wish the show would have given the background of his character. That he was loyal to the Targaryen's during Robert's rebellion. And after Robert took Kings Landing he wanted to execute Thorne, but Ned Stark respected his loyalty and advised to make him take the black and go to the Wall. This explains why he disliked Jon so much and always deferred to Maester Aemon (him being a Targaryen).
Jonathan Blaze
2025-03-15 15:52:52 +0000 UTC
Maple's crystal ball working in real time.
Jonathan Blaze
2025-03-14 17:06:49 +0000 UTC
Alliser Thorne and his ideals are somewhat respectable. However he is a total sadistic prick so that doesn't work in his favor. If he was actually a good man but at the end betrayed John Snow because of the wilding dilema it wouldn't be so black and white in the context of morality of his choice.
Elesh
2025-03-14 15:21:59 +0000 UTC
I think you have your own private little definition of soap opera. By the DICTIONARY game of thrones the show is a soap opera.
Elesh
2025-03-14 15:19:38 +0000 UTC
Maple doing mental gymnastics on Johns’s new state of living 😂
Josh
2025-03-14 02:58:38 +0000 UTC
Well, if you see it that way, okay. For me, that was never quite what GoT was really about when you look at first few seasons.
Christophe
2025-03-14 02:04:05 +0000 UTC
Soap-opera-fication? This show IS a soap opera.
Joe Blankenship
2025-03-14 02:02:53 +0000 UTC
Christophe
2025-03-13 21:00:07 +0000 UTC
you seem like you are really into the books, as am I--wondering what you think of my comment about how the show treated the Dorne storyline--its in 6x4 comments. CB
Chris Bruneau
2025-03-13 20:51:44 +0000 UTC
While I disagree with the perspective of the comparison to "our today's morals" since this show doesn't occur in the Medieval period, it's just a fantasy; overall, I agree with you. I will forever understand and maybe even respect, to a certain degree, Alliser Thorne.
In a weird way, he kind of reminds me of a certain Harry Potter character, which I won't go into detail of because Maple hasn't all the movies yet, but in the way that even though he was an asshole, he had some sort of principle (the principles he had in the books were more rational than the ones in the show but whatever).
He wasn't evil, he wasn't motivated by sadism or even personal achievement, he just had some strong, although often misguided, beliefs and he kept to them. Doesn't excuse him being a dick to Jon Snow and other new recruits early on, but ehh, whatchu gonna do.
Christophe
2025-03-13 20:14:15 +0000 UTC
In defense of Alliser Thorne, he doesn't have the perspective of our today's morals or the ever-knowing viewers perspective. He never seen a whitewalker and only believed in the force of free folk army once he saw it with his own eyes. He is also harshly trained and raised, this is a cynical and awful world for most people.