An unexpected change!
Added 2021-02-27 06:57:32 +0000 UTCHey folks! Brandon here.
You may have noticed that the last episode didn't have tim in it, and you will soon notice that the next one doesn't either. I wanted to address this once we actually really knew what was going on, but I figure I need to tell you all something before patreon clicks over into a new month. The short version is tim appears to have quit the show!?
Basically, on the day of the last recording session, tim sent a message saying he's quitting, but didn't give any qualifiers or explanations. We didn't actually see the message until the show was over, though jaffe had said he didn't think tim would be there today. We don't have any info about why he's left or what he's feeling since we haven't been able to get in contact with him since! So far as we know there's no bad blood between us, the last episodes we did were all regular funtimes except for him being sick last episode. So it's all a big mystery, and we hope he's okay! But for now that's really all the information we have. He hasn't been back since, so for the time being we're assuming maybe he really has quit, and that we will have to figure out how to continue the show without him.
Anyway, that's all to say why we didn't mention it right away - we didn't know during the last episode, and for the next episode (already recorded, coming this weekend) we knew, but were hoping he'd just be like "lol nevermind" and get back in there. But it seems that's not the case, so here I am.
I won't pretend to be rosy about it, this has definitely got us pretty down I did even consider just shutting the show down, but that doesn't feel right to me now that I have thought about it for a week. We've built a robust forum community, we've got the website ready to go, we have a great editor who's making those cool twitter videos, and it took 5 months of work to even get the podcast back off the ground in the first place. It feels like it would be a waste to let it all go. And for several of our participants this show is also a not-insignificant portion of their monthly income.
So we're going to keep going, and I have a real desire to make this work, different though it may be. We don't know exactly what we're doing yet, but for the time being I want to share with you the best idea I've come up with. (Frank, jaffe, and esper are on board with the this assuming it goes well):
1) Jaffe will continue to host, and frank and I will continue to be on the show, and for now we'll just invite one different guest per week, focusing on those with whom we have the best rapport, or with whom we suspect we might. I think you'll see the next episode (where we bring back liz ryerson) has a lot of that chummy vibe that we want.
2) through this process we'll work toward a system where we rotate through a group of regular, consistent panelists, with the occasional "special" guest. The idea would be something like "1st week is X person, 2nd is Y person" and that would remain consistent across the months. Frank and me, three regulars who rotate, and a special guest. It's basically what Whose Line is it Anyway does!
3) with this format we'll feel more comfortable inviting some bigger name folks from journalism and the industry at large to join in on occasion because the show won't just be "three white dudes talking" most of the time.
To me the things that we need to work hardest to preserve are the camaraderie between people who have known each other for a long time, high level knowledge of game errata and obscurity, and media outside of games. So you'll see us trying to figure out who best represents these elements in the coming weeks.
This may not wind up being the final format, but this is what we're trying! "Replacing" tim doesn't feel right (and frankly is impossible), but having a rotating cast might add some interesting spice to the show without having to think about "replacement."
I know that some folks came to the show from tim's videos in the first place, so if he was the main reason you listened to insert credit, we certainly understand if you need to change things up! This is why I'm telling you before the patreon rolls so over so that nobody feels bamboozled. We do hope folks who are enjoying the show and the community will stick around, and I think we can make something that really works, because the format is in many ways the star of the show. But it'll be different - the insert credit show has always been about me, tim, and frank butting heads with each other and then ultimately agreeing on stuff (or not), and there's no way to replicate that exact dynamic. But I do think that where we land will ultimately be pretty cool, though different.
And just to say, we were pretty blindsided by this, and are kinda thinking on our feet over here! So we appreciate your input.
I want to emphasize that we also would welcome tim back whenever, in case he decides to return! We hope this is just a rough patch he's going through and that he'll be back with the gang after a while. Thanks for all your support so far, and if you need to move along from the patreon, again, I totally understand. If you're sticking around, thanks very much, we really really appreciate how great everyone has been so far, and can't overemphasize how much your patronage means. Please do send any comments, suggestions, or questions through and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
We're gonna launch that website pretty soon and get some fun guests, so hopefully things will be looking up sooner than later!
Comments
first time supporter as of today – happy to help bridge the gap as long as you guys are doing your own thing! i think the new episodes are better than ever and am so glad you've decided to continue
coughsoda
2021-03-02 06:57:57 +0000 UTCthank you!
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2021-03-01 19:37:12 +0000 UTCI support this show absolutely. While the news has me feeling a lot of things as I'm sure it has even more so for you I am at least a little excited at the idea of having more regular diverse voices on. I hope Tim and everyone else is okay and I'm glad you aren't on bad terms with each other.
Chin
2021-02-28 19:45:28 +0000 UTCWe'll definitely get some different guests in here, including some maybe folks have never heard of but who have a lot to say, so... crossing our fingers!
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2021-02-28 19:14:10 +0000 UTCThank you!!
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2021-02-28 19:13:35 +0000 UTCYeah, to me insert credit is a larger community that has been a bit scattered for some time, but is finally coming back to roost in one place - that's why we'll keep pushing forward!
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2021-02-28 19:13:27 +0000 UTCI really do feel particularly bad for the folks who just joined - you're about to get a slightly different show than you signed up for! But I appreciate the support, and no shade on anyone who can't keep doing it!
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2021-02-28 19:12:41 +0000 UTCHi Brandon! Thanks for the update. I hope Tim comes back but even if he doesn't I think the show is bigger than any one person. I signed up because I enjoy all of your industry & game dev takes. I for one would love to hear more guests on the show like Heather Anne Campbell lending a different perspective. Keep up the good work!
Eric Manch
2021-02-28 18:03:34 +0000 UTCDang. I hope Tim is doing alright. Sad to see him go, but I'll continue to listen and be a patron for as long as this is around.
Milpy
2021-02-28 18:00:47 +0000 UTCI gotta say, a monthly or quarterly movie podcast would be NEATO.
2021-02-28 14:00:48 +0000 UTCI just want to join the support effort by saying that I honestly think insert credit is a whole lot more than any of the four people (six if you count Esper and Shane) participating on the production, and while it is a complete bummer to see Tim quitting, and doing so in such a strange and confusing way, I think you'll be fine and there is room to pull forward without him. I hope everything gets sorted out sooner rather than later and it'd be great if he comes back, but I'll keep listening to the show with or without Doom shotgun sound effects!
2021-02-28 12:50:07 +0000 UTCBeen thinking about this all day since I read this post last night. I love the show and found it because of Tim. This was actually my first month subscribed as a patron. I'm gonna miss him big time but I've grown to love every member of the Insert Credit squad. I've been in a better spot financially recently so I will continue my pledge. Regardless of whether Tim returns to the show or not, (I want him to do whatever is best for his health) I hope y'all are able to get some closure about the situation and remain friends. Looking forward to what the future holds!!
Micah Gonzalez
2021-02-28 06:00:46 +0000 UTCAh, please don't put yourself out if you can't really handle it right now, we will still be able to do the show if a couple folks need to drop out - we don't want to put a financial burden on anybody!!
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2021-02-28 05:46:51 +0000 UTCyeah, our bickering about obscurities will be missed no matter what!
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2021-02-28 05:45:58 +0000 UTCAh man, what a bummer ! I hope everyone is doing okay and I really wish you all well ! I originally planned to back for a month or two (since I'm not really financially able to pledge for too long) but I'll stay a bit longer because I really really like the show ! It really helped me during some bad days and I'm sure that there will be no drop in quality ! Nothing can replace Tim but I'm really eager to see the new guests ! And once again I really, really, wish you all well during those times !
2021-02-28 02:47:16 +0000 UTCMan, should have made Videoball the BGOAT. Thanks for taking the effort to write us about this. Some of what made the show special was listening to Tim and Brandon bicker. After listening to Video Game History Hour, a potential change in tone may be refreshing. Tim's one-of-a-kind but Tim Zone has hours of Tim content and I expect this change will produce a different, but equally great show. Looking forward to every show! PS. Too soon: hoping Tim's sound board also quit.
Jacob Midtlyng
2021-02-28 01:06:17 +0000 UTCAnd thank you as well!!
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2021-02-28 00:20:51 +0000 UTCThanks for the update. Glad to keep supporting the show either way! . IC has quickly become one of my favorite podcasts and I would have been sad to see it go. Thanks for keeping it alive!
Daniel Roth
2021-02-27 22:26:13 +0000 UTCIt really has been great to see everyone being so positive despite the weirdness of the situation. I appreciate y'all!
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2021-02-27 21:28:56 +0000 UTCThank you! It's been heartening to see all the support! I only wish I watched more GOOD movies instead of constantly watching trash ha ha. I should start recommending movies I watched earlier than within the last week so we can get to The Good Stuff.
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2021-02-27 21:28:28 +0000 UTCI've read all of the replies to this post, and it's fantastic to see such a universally positive and compassionate response from a significant portion of backers. I, too, can't wait to see what the four of you come up with, so I'm strapped in and along for the ride! 😎
2021-02-27 21:15:50 +0000 UTCI am so confident in the future of this show that I will double my pledge! Nothing but love for the crew, and for Tim. I look forward hearing new and returning guests, to vibing with Brandon's movie suggestions (I had just watched Bacarau a few months ago, and Stagefright less than a week before you mentioned it- and I take that kind of synchronicity seriously), to laughing out loud at my job about esoteric video game jokes 🖤🖤
Dregnet
2021-02-27 21:01:32 +0000 UTChearts back!
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2021-02-27 20:46:01 +0000 UTCI love y'all; please accept this message of unconditional (and continued financial) support!
Joshua Jarvis
2021-02-27 20:18:42 +0000 UTC