D&D Court: Toxic Tables, Confusing Crits and the Tragic Tale of John the Horse
Added 2022-07-22 05:46:43 +0000 UTC
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Of all the words you might want to call the Council of Elders but you aren't totally sure what the word means, "superfluous" has to be one of the funniest options lol
Natalie Kangas
2023-12-16 17:25:39 +0000 UTC
I need to see the dingers scooter crew art
Rotem Cohen
2023-05-17 14:38:14 +0000 UTC
I could’ve sworn Caldwell had made many a reference to reading old chapters of one piece prior to this but maybe he’s taking his time or just wanted to and hadn’t gotten around to it until then?
Matt
2022-12-30 12:23:57 +0000 UTC
For the raccoonicorn thing they would have to summon a celestial. Then make it breed with a raccoon somehow. A wizard did it also does tend to be the reason for alot of beasts.
Kidtruck91
2022-09-29 20:21:01 +0000 UTC
3.5 had a type of crit confirming. If you roll a nat 20, you auto hit. But you have to roll again and match or exceed the targets AC to confirm critical damage, or else you just deal normal damage.
Hardstuck Jett 3
2022-09-13 12:14:58 +0000 UTC
The Crit Confirm is from pathfinder. They shouldn’t be doing it in dnd. It was never a mechanic there. 😊
Melissa Ryan
2022-08-14 01:05:16 +0000 UTC
Something tells me Caldwell meant superlative lol
Bec Robson
2022-08-09 14:21:30 +0000 UTC
Listening to Murph sing the Gummy Bears theme song gave me life!! Also hearing the 2nd verse - which I had COMPLETELY forgotten - brought back a rush of memory that was both thrilling and nostalgic. Gummy Bear one-shot in the future, please and thank you!
Jessica
2022-08-07 19:03:37 +0000 UTC
Im pretty sure crit confirm was also a thing in pathfinder, which was very popular at the same time as dnd 3.5
Kreamcheese
2022-08-07 15:15:17 +0000 UTC
Anyone else missing zac oyamas rotating heroes campaign? Lol love this shid but more campaign
Nick Lerche
2022-08-07 02:12:44 +0000 UTC
The German version of DnD called DSA (Das schwarze Auge - The black eye) does actually have crit confirmation AND 20 and 1 have switched meanings!! (The lower the role, the better.) The rule system is also way more complicated and bureaucratic - very German. Was laughing the whole time you talked about it.
Caroline Groß
2022-07-31 08:12:34 +0000 UTC
what you're saying is nonsense but I'm all for internal consistency depending on the circumstance. If people can't expect anything due to a lack of consistency then their own interpretation of things largely lose meaning, especially in something like a game, your actions must have some degree of reasonable outcome
Summer Tribe
2022-07-28 14:07:36 +0000 UTC
What I'm learning from this comment section (again) is that people writing in have to be clear about what system they're writing about, because nobody likes to hear about a lack of rules understanding
Summer Tribe
2022-07-28 12:46:48 +0000 UTC
yall are CRAZY! that sidebar is VALID
Dallon Taylor
2022-07-27 19:25:00 +0000 UTC
Fully here for "Tales from the Toxic Table"!!
Brant Johnson
2022-07-27 11:48:38 +0000 UTC
Hell yes One Piece the modern odyssey of fiction welcome to the crew Caldwell so glad you are readings it!
Good Guy Josh
2022-07-27 00:03:50 +0000 UTC
In 3.5, crits were more powerful (double dmg included modifier) but required crit confirm. However, a 20 was still an auto-success and my party got rid of the confirm role before 5e did it for us. Slowed down gameplay.
Jon Smith
2022-07-26 16:56:33 +0000 UTC
Gummy Bears one shot
K
2022-07-25 18:16:48 +0000 UTC
I play in a pathfinder 1e campaign and I believe not only do we have to crit confirm above a 10, but I believe our crit confirmation number has to hit our enemy’s AC. Our crit confirm also includes all our bonuses to an attack, too, so it tends to happen a good amount of time(at least for us martial class folk)
Dylan Irish
2022-07-25 15:44:35 +0000 UTC
As 1 of the 50 Noahs on the council, I do not agree with Crash and his theft from a Noah but I am willing to pardon this transgression if crash is willing to change his name, obviously to Noah cuz it’s a good name. Furthermore I speak for every Noah on the council when I say that Jake is a cool guy and every Noah henceforth shall only say nice things to balance the stink from the non-Noahs
Noah
2022-07-25 13:36:24 +0000 UTC
I'm so glad Rachel's death lives on. Let's not tell them that the rest of the Animorphs except Cassie die too.
Lucas
2022-07-24 23:22:20 +0000 UTC
Crit confirms are RAW for 3.5
Tristan Fortenberry
2022-07-24 18:17:05 +0000 UTC
Are y'all familiar with reddit.com/r/dndhorrorstories?
Sukavi
2022-07-24 15:33:22 +0000 UTC
I thought his 3.5 game was the decade long one of his friends from the east coast? I didn't think that the LA Crew played 3.5. and if they do, it's likely that Brennan removed crit confirms for the exact reason they mention it being anticlimactic
Noah Jay
2022-07-24 13:04:45 +0000 UTC
The Noahs honor and appreciate your ruling. What happens to one of us, happens to all.
Noah Jay
2022-07-24 13:01:16 +0000 UTC
YES CALDWELL! Welcome to your one piece journey! See you in Wano
Brenton
2022-07-24 08:50:06 +0000 UTC
Get Connor (@cdawgva) from trash taste podcast to voice Tucker... I mean I imagine Tucker's voice sounds as heavenly as Connor's.
Chris F
2022-07-24 04:05:01 +0000 UTC
Just want to point out that while steeds summoned using find steed can’t speak out loud they always understand one language you speak and can communicate telepathically with the summoner in that language #JusticeForJohn
Chad Laska
2022-07-24 01:01:01 +0000 UTC
Sorry guys, Crit Confirms is definitely a thing in both Pathfinder 1e and DnD 3.5e. I think y'all owe a correction.
Jess Little
2022-07-24 00:08:31 +0000 UTC
I think that the Groot/racoons situation could have been resolved by having the racoons do an athletics check.
Jesse De La Rosa
2022-07-23 19:42:08 +0000 UTC
Yes! that threw me, I just finished fhsy and it was fresh in my mind
Devyn N
2022-07-23 17:11:08 +0000 UTC
I have the necklace of the d12 of the riverboat shanty dice!! Eleanor is the best!
Lindsey Schick
2022-07-23 17:09:07 +0000 UTC
Those horse girls are no joke.
Elizabeth Lees
2022-07-23 16:24:02 +0000 UTC
That is excellent.
Elizabeth Lees
2022-07-23 16:18:23 +0000 UTC
Caldwell used a common argument online, "if there is supernatural elements in a setting, you are not allowed to discuss its internal consistency". I disagree with it, all settings need internal consistency. So why is are the criticals consistant in D&D settings? Because they're not realistic, they're epic. In D&D a human warrior with a few levels can take canonballs to the face and they'll probably be entirely fine the next day. Heroes and villains are way larger than life, so it's natural that they all have 5% to do something incredible or to fail against all (realistic) odds.
Garga Lenoir
2022-07-23 09:03:50 +0000 UTC
The crew should SO do that toxic tales thing, there are stories of dnd toxicity that I hold in my heart and long to release but I feel aren't worthy of dungeon court because it more focuses on the drama/group dynamics rather than dnd mechanics the court usually deals with
Joey
2022-07-23 07:18:21 +0000 UTC
OGD the original God of Dice.
Mason Shucart
2022-07-23 07:14:57 +0000 UTC
The highest earner on Cameo was the late great Gilbert Gottfried cause who wouldn't want to pay him money to call your friend a sack of shit
FiendishNoodles
2022-07-23 06:45:33 +0000 UTC
Racoonicorn, and the mechanic of it eating a unicorn, came from a Cantrip Cast video based on a random comment from a previous vid. Sounds like a fun creature. https://youtu.be/33ZR0E_N9GM
Sarahsaurus
2022-07-23 06:36:57 +0000 UTC
Critical confirmation is a pathfinder 1e thing. It made some sense because many weapons had expanded critical range, coupled with the improved critical feat, a rapier crits on a 15-20. It's a bygone era artifact of feat and item bloat.
drednauht
2022-07-23 05:50:37 +0000 UTC
Sucked into the wheel well of a Carola is a big Gilear moment
Aiyana
2022-07-23 05:03:43 +0000 UTC
Well-well-well. Look at this Johnny come vaguely-lately, checking in on One Piece when there's only "5 years" left.
Gwilson
2022-07-23 04:59:55 +0000 UTC
Murph's little breath after Caldwell said "If everyone embraces the cringe is it still cringe?" was so funny
Aiyana
2022-07-23 04:51:11 +0000 UTC
I had so much fun playing 2e for several years, but THAC0 is dumb, the saves were a mess and death upon hitting zero HP would mean everyone would be on their 4th character by episode 10.
Brian Geffre
2022-07-23 03:58:32 +0000 UTC
Especially when you had larger crit ranges. Easy to crit on a 12 or higher with a keen scimitar.
Brian Geffre
2022-07-23 03:53:45 +0000 UTC
Crit confermation was important too because with a few feats and a keen scimitar, you crit on a 12 or higher.
Brian Geffre
2022-07-23 03:53:01 +0000 UTC
1 being success and 20 being failure was exactly how 2e worked. I'd love to see yall try to tackle the monster that is 2e one of these days
MrMach6
2022-07-23 02:21:37 +0000 UTC
That DM got double dogged
Heck
2022-07-23 01:26:50 +0000 UTC
Toxic Tales sounds solid as a side show...even if its just reactions to D&D nightmares
NemoKeine
2022-07-23 00:42:02 +0000 UTC
❤️
Matt Atkinson
2022-07-23 00:19:01 +0000 UTC
Is there going to be a Toxic Tales from the Table segment? I have a few good ones that are so clearly just toxic players, it’s not even worth submitting to D&D Small Claims Court.
Dome Fossil
2022-07-22 22:46:14 +0000 UTC
Thanks, I was looking for this explanation and would have spelled it out myself if it wasn't here, but you broke it down perfectly.
Nathan Wilson
2022-07-22 22:32:06 +0000 UTC
Thanks! I'm really enjoying it so far. Wish me luck on my long journey. ~Caldwell
Not Another D&D Podcast
2022-07-22 22:01:18 +0000 UTC
Dog on a spider, now that’s something I’d like to see
farmerjoe_y
2022-07-22 21:37:32 +0000 UTC
Dm of dog here!! you all nailed the situation . All the players at the table were aware of the opportunity of dogs betrayal but wernt aware of our messages and how eminent the pvp was. But he knew he was a melee buld vs 2 and a half casters and I was only going to allow a couple rounds of combat anyway. I agree with Murph that i am trying to play tricks and i got tricked. Shout out to dog still going strong now with a giant spider mount!
will s
2022-07-22 21:26:58 +0000 UTC
AYO CALDWELL READING ONE PIECE?! we love to see it
Mattlikesfries
2022-07-22 20:57:49 +0000 UTC
Caldwell, Oda just gets better. I am excited about your journey.
Makeitsweat
2022-07-22 20:55:39 +0000 UTC
Take your time and enjoy the One Piece journey Caldwell! It only gets better
Ryan
2022-07-22 20:06:47 +0000 UTC
What a great ep! Also good for you starting one piece Caldwell lol, you’ll enjoy the next 1000 chaps
Jack Farley
2022-07-22 20:04:02 +0000 UTC
If you make a dating profile that's just a picture of a horse and shout out the Bible, you *will* get responses from a certain type of person.
Allen S
2022-07-22 19:08:28 +0000 UTC
Groot: https://ddb.ac/characters/79116087/HcHNSy
Andrew S
2022-07-22 18:53:44 +0000 UTC
OK to make up for spoiling Frozen 2, Animorphs and Guardians of the Galaxy we are going to need Murph to dm Olaf, Rachel and Groot on a one shot (Caldwell, Emily and Jake respectively.)
Andrew S
2022-07-22 18:53:04 +0000 UTC
Did anyone else catch the Dimension 20 reference near the end there? Murph said, “Dice Christ is real and so is my dog”, maybe in reference to Fantasy High Siobhan’s “Magic is real and so is my frog” :)
SnuggieWielder
2022-07-22 18:50:07 +0000 UTC
Crit Confirmation is RAW in 3.5, it sounds like the submitter's DM was doing it a bit weird, but in 3.5 if you crit on an attack (not a skill check) you roll again to try to hit the target AC again, if you hit again you crit, if you don't, it's just a hit. The reason it worked like this is because of two main reasons, one, because it was very easy to build to crit on several numbers besides 20 (for example, a normal, ordinary rapier crits on 18, 19, or 20 in the hands of anyone) and, secondly, because ACs were higher, it stopped characters that could only hit on a crit (because they were so much lower level) from dealing double damage on every hit.
Crit confirming on skill checks and nat 1s and having the DC always be 10 (and I guess not adding anything to the roll?) all does sound needlessly complicated though. Thus, despite missing some information, the righteous Crit Justices ruled correctly as always.
Elizabeth Hart
2022-07-22 18:34:11 +0000 UTC
Confirming crits was basically a necessity in 3.5 bc the numbers were so wild. You could crit fish and have like 5 or 7 attacks while critting on 15-20. But ACs could be in the 30s. You'd get so many bonuses too that would double that you could do 300 dmg a turn no problem. It was a wild time. Even now I'm not wild about high numbers get in 5e but I sure do love how simple a crit and a fumble is again
Declan Konesky
2022-07-22 18:23:58 +0000 UTC
What's wild is I was just relistening to the 8BBC episode where Caldwell and Emily sing the gummi bears theme song so the ending of this show was like a sweet little time capsule. Side note: have they ever considered bringing Jake on as an 8BBC guest? I think he might be alright at it
jackalope503
2022-07-22 17:45:59 +0000 UTC
Ask Brennan about crit confirm he probably cut it bc he didn't like it?
Maya B
2022-07-22 17:44:55 +0000 UTC
subtitled Hot Boys Save Chrickmas
Maleny
2022-07-22 16:38:39 +0000 UTC
I also have a “yeah fuck” d20 and it does make crit fails more fun
Adah Kinzer
2022-07-22 16:32:39 +0000 UTC
I've very confused how Murph and Em haven't heard of confirming Crits when they were playing in Brennan's 3.5 game. Was Brennan just not doing crit confirms?
JT Gwozdz
2022-07-22 16:22:07 +0000 UTC
YES CALDWELL IS READING ONE PIECE
Hunter Anderson
2022-07-22 16:03:42 +0000 UTC
Crit confirm in 3.5 is not homebrew it’s part of the systwm
Shepard Price
2022-07-22 15:50:43 +0000 UTC
I heard at least 2 references to Hot Boy Summer! Does it mean that campaign is fresh in their minds?! I need a sequel or Cool Boy Winter so BAD!
Melissa Surges
2022-07-22 15:41:16 +0000 UTC
My pathfinder group uses crit confirmations to get crit cards. So no matter what you get double damage for a Nat 20, but a confirmed crit would have debilitating effects or even triple damage
Nick Neverman
2022-07-22 15:11:51 +0000 UTC
Pathfinder has crit confirmation. However, every table I've played at house ruled that Nat 20s were an autocrit. If you rolled something in your crit range otherwise (because of feats, skills, or weapon characteristics that expanded the crit range to more than just 20), THEN you needed to confirm
Chris Truex
2022-07-22 14:57:17 +0000 UTC
For the Crit Confirmation, I never played 3.5e so I don't know if it was ever RAW. However, my table plays with a rule that if you hit a Nat 20, you can choose to confirm it. Which just means you roll again and if you hit a second Nat 20, then instead of double dice, you roll 4x dice. If you roll a Nat 1 on the confirmation, it cancels out the crit. But anything inbetween just means it's a normal crit. And the pcs never have to, it's a choice.
As I was writing this, literally Caldwell talked about this rule.... but yes, my table fully plays with this rule
Krowlove82
2022-07-22 14:05:38 +0000 UTC
Dingers merch when???
Shane C
2022-07-22 13:45:22 +0000 UTC
Hey there, I gave those fuck/yeah dice you referenced at the Philly live show during our meet and greet! Glad to hear you enjoyed em.
Sean Logue
2022-07-22 13:04:49 +0000 UTC
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who knows the whole Gummi Bears theme tune and can sing it at the drop of a hat!
Clairodactyl
2022-07-22 12:15:00 +0000 UTC
I preferred the 3.5 crit confirmation rules.
Rinnie
2022-07-22 12:05:35 +0000 UTC
As already pointed out, Crit Confirmation is a thing in 3.5. On a nat 20, you roll again, if you hit the AC of the target, it is a crit. If you miss the AC, it is still a hit, but not a crit. This was pretty standard for the edition and I was baffled moving info 5e that a nat 20 was just a crit. Couldn't go back to crit confirm now though 🤣
Anthony Ferguson
2022-07-22 10:39:13 +0000 UTC
The Youtuber Dingo Doodles talked about a house rule with crits similar to crit confirmation but better.
If you roll a nat 20, you roll again to see if you get another nat 20. If so you double crit. And if you roll 3 nat 20 in a row you insta kill the enemy. They insta killed the big bad of the campaing with this.
Lulu_ Wi_
2022-07-22 10:27:49 +0000 UTC
Thos was great and all but i can NOT be the only one who thought the best part was Murph knowing all the words to The Gummi bears theme song!!? Cause, no shame, was fully singing along!! Well played Murph!🤩🤣
Lee Blatchford
2022-07-22 09:57:41 +0000 UTC
Thanks for all the love you guys, gonna pitch Caldwell's idea soon and see how it goes ❤️❤️🙏🎲
King Wonderbread
2022-07-22 09:34:36 +0000 UTC
Animorphs rules
James Bofinger
2022-07-22 09:32:40 +0000 UTC
Leased corolla
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5niOsFzvRY7zmYOobHFHXkV_wMVgrjps
Canid
2022-07-22 07:29:43 +0000 UTC
Did Murph reference fantasy high season 2 in the dog story? I just watched it and it definitely seems like magic is real and so is my frog has become an inside joke for them
Devyn N
2022-07-22 07:13:47 +0000 UTC
I definitely think Caldwells double down idea is smoother and less disappointing than the crit confirm
Devyn N
2022-07-22 07:12:07 +0000 UTC
crit confirm is something similar to pf1 system, but worse, it's a must fix.
華偉 曾
2022-07-22 06:52:10 +0000 UTC
Re: Crit Confirmation - I started in 3.5e and then Pathfinder and this was the rule at the table I played at. If you rolled a Nat 20, you had to roll again and if you didn't get the AC on the second roll, it was still a hit but not a crit. If you did meet the AC, you got to crit.
On the reverse, if you rolled a 1, but hit the AC in the second roll, you didn't have a critical failure, but if you didn't hit the AC, you did have a critical failure.
It was explained as a balance mechanism - a way to get out of something really bad happening, but for balance you had to confirm something good happening.
AmberDextrous!
2022-07-22 06:38:46 +0000 UTC
also as an aside, raccoonicorns being made by raccoons consuming unicorn flesh doesn’t make any sense but i’m actually into it conceptually
H-Train
2022-07-22 06:38:12 +0000 UTC
i’m crying laughing at the dog story
Chloe Peifly
2022-07-22 06:32:00 +0000 UTC
For the sake of the horse story, the replacement horse was named “Not John” and I referred to him as the full name Not John every time. Thanks for reading my case!
Devyn N
2022-07-22 06:03:55 +0000 UTC
Just wanted to say that despite the spoilers, since you did the Animorphs 8Bit Book Club, I've read all the Animorph books and they really are good even knowing what's coming. Highly recommend that Jake keeps reading!
Teo Tamashiro-Harris
2022-07-22 05:57:58 +0000 UTC
GOTG VOL. 1 Spoilers
Animorph Spoilers
Garrett Morrow
2022-07-22 05:54:09 +0000 UTC
In session!
Jeffrey Steck, Lord of the Fjord
2022-07-22 05:50:56 +0000 UTC
the logo’s a bit zoomed in huh?
H-Train
2022-07-22 05:49:22 +0000 UTC
You must be imagining it
Bodhi Milledge
2022-07-22 05:48:57 +0000 UTC
No way I caught this 50 secs after it posted
Levi Seidel
2022-07-22 05:48:03 +0000 UTC