Vote: Next 'In Defense of [Aircraft]'
Added 2021-09-27 17:35:46 +0000 UTCHey all,
After recently putting out my In Defense of the Brewster Buffalo, I am looking for a contender for the next episode. Together with fellow supporters on Discord, I already put together a preliminary list that you can vote on here. Once I have the results, I will check the feasibility and let you all know about the final decision.
Also, feel free to suggest your own submission (Option 5) BUT please consider the following important aspects:
- Plane should be well known
- Have (known) bad reputation
- Used operationally (e.g. not a prototype if it can be avoided)
- Not be 'too' obscure (difficult to find good information then)
Looking forward to the results and suggestions
Chris
Comments
Training accidents seemed to have quite common during WW2. On one training flight my Father saw 2 B-17s crash into each other in heavy weather over Nashville — no survivors.
Michael Moran
2021-10-08 19:33:41 +0000 UTCDuring WW2 my father arrived at an airbase to start training on B-26s. The day after he arrived, the instructor was killed in an air crash. The training class was disbanded and much to their relief the pilots were distributed to classes for training on other planes. I specifically remember him calling them “Flying Prostitute” because they no visible means of support. He ended up flying C-46s and C-47s.
Michael Moran
2021-10-08 19:09:34 +0000 UTCOne-a-day in Tampa Bay for sure!
Francis McGarry
2021-10-01 06:55:47 +0000 UTCLockheed Hudson in RNAA service
Erik Berg
2021-09-29 12:50:24 +0000 UTCHow about the F-82 twin mustang, a plane with a short service life and hated by the crew who flew them.
2021-09-28 19:51:31 +0000 UTCOh wow, what did your uncle fly in the end?
Military Aviation History
2021-09-28 08:44:33 +0000 UTCAdded to the list
Military Aviation History
2021-09-28 08:43:50 +0000 UTCDidnt think of that one. I want to film one in the future, so why not :)
Military Aviation History
2021-09-28 08:42:32 +0000 UTCFairey Battle is on my reserve list, as I want to film it at a museum as well :)
Military Aviation History
2021-09-28 08:41:40 +0000 UTCYeah, I would like to do something on them again. Looks like the SM79 is a favourite atm
Military Aviation History
2021-09-28 08:41:08 +0000 UTCOf all the planes on the list only one is still flying today, the C-46. You should defend that one for that reason.
2021-09-28 06:16:08 +0000 UTCWhen I first read the list, I was like 'what! How did the Douglas Invader end up on this list?' Then I read it more carefully and saw B-26 MARAUDER.
2021-09-28 01:12:57 +0000 UTCI have never heard anything bad about the B-26 other than the "one a day in Tampa Bay" which I always thought applied to both it and the B-25 due to their high wing loading. I will vote for that only because it surprises me. I know next to nothing of the two Italians, and the C-46 just seemed like another cargo plane.
Scarecrow Repair
2021-09-28 00:34:16 +0000 UTCWhen I think underrated Fiat fighter, the CR42 springs to mind. I know close to nothing about the G.50 so I'd be interested in knowing more. That being said, if there are some people out there who for some reason hold a negative opinion of the B-26, then that is probably worth correcting.
Robert Santamaria
2021-09-27 22:50:54 +0000 UTCI voted for the C-46 because my uncle flew or was going to fly them until his CO said we want nothing to do with that aircraft. Electric landing gear, pockets of fuel vapor, BOOM!?
2021-09-27 21:16:30 +0000 UTCThe B-24/C-87 is my suggestion (in the sense that what was "great" about them was that they were manufactured in enormous numbers -- they were cheap and plentiful and the pilots hated them). Also, if you go with the C-46, see John Deakin's writings about their use by the CIA in Southeast Asia in the 1960s and 1970s. I'd like to see a comparison between the C-46 and the DeHavilland Caribou -- both were/are great at lifting lots of stuff into and out of remote places. The C-46 may still be in service in the Arctic, and the Caribou was in service with the Australian Air Force until a few years ago.
David Wall
2021-09-27 20:42:20 +0000 UTCBf 110
Sean Tyson
2021-09-27 19:25:25 +0000 UTCBf 110 or Fairey Battle
2021-09-27 18:54:55 +0000 UTCWhat about the Bf 110 as long range escort fighter? The Luftwaffe invested a lot in this platform that gave such a poor result in this role (but not in others as night fighter per example)
Miguel Aldaz
2021-09-27 18:52:58 +0000 UTCI second the motion for the Fairey Battle
2021-09-27 18:47:38 +0000 UTCI would also like to see old or obsolete AC that were used in battle or support usually desperate situations .. An example could be the P 26 in the Philippines . bi planes in ww2 .. or AC used for things they wen't designed for.. like Lancasters modified to drop the bomb. ( You have already covered the Buffalo and the Swordfish ( Bismark) is well known.)
O D
2021-09-27 18:41:20 +0000 UTCThe Finnish airforce was great for just flying whatever was thrown at them. Oh and then proving that it was all about the pilot.
Wayne Moyer
2021-09-27 18:40:31 +0000 UTCDefending the Gutlass would be tough though. I've spent a lot of time reading over that aircraft since it used to be on display in Willow Grove Pennsylvania and I even have a hard time defending it. Although it really came down to a bad powerplant.
Wayne Moyer
2021-09-27 18:37:47 +0000 UTCYou’d be surprised how common the misconception still seems to be, plus, the B-26 Marauder does deserve some screen time
Ghoul
2021-09-27 18:21:45 +0000 UTCBrewster, Fiat G 50, Blenheim... So this is the greatest hits of the Finnish air force? If so, I'm all for it.
wienweh
2021-09-27 18:21:09 +0000 UTCI know that the high landing speed and tricycle undercarriage of the B-26 caused a few issues (crashes and deaths) when it was first introduced, but I believe it had an excellent combat record, having the lowest combat loss ratio of any US bomber in service, so I'm somewhat surprised to find it needs "defending" :-)
Julian Corbett
2021-09-27 18:16:22 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/kUWq4ymz8Yw
2021-09-27 18:13:42 +0000 UTCThe B-26 was a great airplane that does not belong on this list. I’d suggest the Defiant or the me-210
2021-09-27 18:01:54 +0000 UTCBorat voice: “come to America!”
Captain Picard (Dee)
2021-09-27 17:57:27 +0000 UTCWhat about the Blenheim? Promising when she first came in but had rather disastrous ops as both a bomber and a fighter.
2021-09-27 17:56:23 +0000 UTCThe F7U Cutlass seems like an obvious choice. A lot of early jets seem like possibilities, though, even ones that I nominally like.. such as the F3D Skyknight or F4D Skyray.
Steve Kurt
2021-09-27 17:54:56 +0000 UTCWould be interested in "In Defense Of..." Podcasts on the Fairey Battle or (Polish) PZL.11
Richard Goldblatt
2021-09-27 17:54:38 +0000 UTCThe Italian aircraft have, I my opinion, had very little screen-time and that is unfortunate. I would like to have that rectified.
Hans Peter Bak
2021-09-27 17:49:02 +0000 UTC