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The Spirits Are Telling Me Women Should Have Rights

To celebrate the spooky season, the girlies explore the world of psychics and spiritual mediums. They consider crucial questions such as: are psychics gifted visionaries or just talented scammers? Can ghosts be seen in photographs? Did spirits from the other side really endorse feminism? Is celebrity medium Tyler Henry the only true spiritualist? Digressions include things psychics should under no circumstances be allowed to tell you, our experience with spiritual scams, and one listener’s spooky premonition.

This episode was produced by Julia Hava and Eliza McLamb and edited by Allison Hagan. Research assistance from Penelope Spurr.

SOURCES:

Beyond the Veil: Spiritualism in the 19th Century

Hollywood Medium Tyler Henry Has a Waiting List 600,000 People Long

Inside the Secret Sting Operations to Expose Celebrity Psychics

Man Who Gave Psychics $718,00 ‘Just Got Sucked In’

Mary Lincoln's Seance at the Soldiers' Home

Séances and Spirits: The Spiritual Movement and Tracing Family History

Sensing the Extraordinary

Spiritual Physiologies

Spiritualism in the 19th Century

That’s the Spirit

The Body as Medium in Medieval Art and Culture

The Middle Ages, Ch. 10: Medieval Christian Mysticism

The Middle Ages, Ch. 11: Hildegard of Bingen and Women's Mysticism

Things That Go BUMP in the Parlor: Spiritualism, Lincoln, and a Happy Hallowe'en

Who are ‘spiritual but not religious’ Americans?

The Spirits Are Telling Me Women Should Have Rights The Spirits Are Telling Me Women Should Have Rights

Comments

omg twin!!! hiii :3

Kaitlin

and in what world would you not be velma ?????

mika

This isn’t a medium/psychic story but I’ve always been so scared of ghosts but this past weekend I got called to the bar (new lawyer here!!) and was staying at my aunts with my parents and extended family and we had so many spooky things happen at the house that we believe was my grandpa!! Whenever the fam is together spooky things happen including knocking on walls which seems to be his signature sign - it even happened in my house a few days before I left and ive never gotten a spooky vibe at my house

Manon

Not the ghost sounds at the end of the pod actually scaring me 💀💀

Manon

Omg right!? So weird some guy went to a séance, got to told to crack people's bones and Oop here we all are having been to a chiropractor! As someone with chronic pain, massage and osteopathy work much better than chiro, because with chiropractics heard tissue (bones) is being manipulated without preparing soft tissue (fascia, muscles, tendons, ligaments), which is why it doesn't always stick and you have to keep going back... Almost like they know this but just want you money... 🙃

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

It's entirely possible that this "dark energy", if it even exists, was just dark towards her because she was a scammer. Also dark doesn't always mean bad, we need the dark to see the light, one cannot exist without the other. The whole dark energy being exclusively bad in spirituality is very tired and lacks nuance.

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

Hello Kaitlin who spells her name like meee! I have met so few of us who do! p.s. sorry if I have said hi before lol

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

i went to the psychic of soho for a random like $10 palm reading and it was madddd accurate

Adrianna

You guys should watch “look into my eyes” (on prime video? Ugh sorry) but it’s a documentary film about NYC psychics and it was really sweet and interesting!!

Mikala Cessac

I paid for a pet psychic once and I felt so stupid afterwards lmao

Sophie Wilson

Off topic but I highly recommend you guys discuss the movie adaptation (or book) of Uglies that’s on netflix with Joey King bc it’s kinda crazy and kinda bad

Aiden

my dad always tells me this story of a psychic he saw while in college that told him November would be a lucky month for him. fast forward 10 years later he’s married to my mom, and they’re having trouble getting pregnant with me (multiple miscarriages) and then I was born in November!!!! she ate that one lil thing

Kaitlin

On my birthday i met a psychic named Rita on the air train from JFK who HAD THE SAME BIRTHDAY AS ME and she read me for free :) But then I also got scammed by a tarot reader over the phone in SF who charged me like $100 extra dollars because SHE went over our allotted time because “her cat wanted to go outside” :(

Emily Gallivan

I recently went to see a psychic, I randomly got the urge driving home for work and was suddenly desperate to get my cards read by literally anyone. I found this random lady who was doing readings from her house. Vibes were great at first until the end of the session when she told me I had a dark energy following me. She offered to remove this dark energy for a small fee of 600 DOLLARS. She told me if I didn’t remove this energy it will ruin my life and no matter what I will never be able to be truly happy. I was like… damn. I’ll take my chances thanks tho

Teagan

Julia, no one is a worm like you 💛

Lilly Souter

Yes! He and his wife even had a code word so that she would know it was him! I don't recall what the code word was though

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

if you guys wanna know more about mary todd lincoln and the woman who got her out of her non-consensual stay at a mental institution/support a smaller playwright the woman i worked for this summer, Catherine Filloux wrote a beautiful play about the complex relationship between the two women called “Mary and Myra”

Bug White

ugh crossover of the century

KE

I believe Harry Houdini was turned off by spiritualism after his mother died and his friend Arthur Conan Doyle convinced him to be part of a seance to channel her and Harry felt exploited by the experience. After that he wanted to disprove spiritualists to stop them from taking advantage of grieving people. Also when Harry Houdini was dying, he told his wife he would try to come back and speak to her if he could (to prove whether or not it was possible) and she hosted many seances but was never able to speak to him.

Ally

I need you guys to connect with Zelph on the Shelf bc there’s so much overlap potential, they mentioned the pod in a rlly nice way in one of their recent vids!!

char

wait....do you think

Hannah

the wasp story sounds like a book called the butterfly lampshade

annabelle chapman

Omg I thought the outro ghost noises were WASP SOUNDS and that there was a wasp actively haunting me

Connie

Now that the girlies have FINALLY done an episode on psychics/mediums, I must evangelize about the HBO doc Call Me Miss Cleo. You will be GAGGED by the horrors that capitalism bestowed upon this beautiful human and then you will cry because it's truly one of the most BEAUTIFUL endings to a documentary you'll ever see.

KE

twice i was approached by old ladies who told me that someone was STEALING my energy and that someone was working against me🥳 someone “very close to my heart” one of them said… so i was like 😀 they didn’t even try to sell me anything 💀

MG

I wanna say it’s in the heterosexuality is a trauma response ep?

Luteal Swan

Eliza! I’ll be at the Syracuse show, I’m an art student and photographer. I’m going to DM you too, but I was curious on a pass to take photos!!

Emma Wachsmith

I’ll be at Eliza’s spooktacular Syracuse show and I’ll be a devil that also happens to look like little red riding hood bc the costume is literally just a red shawl lmao

Delaney O'Neil

this is so crazy lmao

isbly

My bestie is a ghost tour guide in SF and everytime she has a medium or spiritually intune person they (unprovoked) will inform her that she is being followed by the spirit of a little boy in Victorian clothes. She's been told like 6 different times by different mediums that he's there. sometimes he has a little girl with him and they walk with the tour or will peek out behind buildings and scamper alongside. They've told her that he seems to like her and that's why he comes on her tour (which is fair cause she's the best).

Annika Lawson

yes 🙏

Meghan Hannum

will he be blue?

Annip

omg …. have you considered that your dead grandfather may be attached to your soul?

Annip

my bf and I are being a ladybug and a windowsill 🐞 😌

molly jane

I’m gonna be mothergod for Halloween and I’m painting myself blue

Luteal Swan

THANK YOU!!!

Moera Kalafatides Hunter

I once met a psychic in a casino bathroom. She was on a girls trip and pretty tipsy but she came over and read my friends and I, unprompted. She knew my exact career and nailed several other things about people in the group that she had no way of knowing. Because she was drunk I think she crossed some boundaries that a psychic normally wouldn’t and she told me my partner and I wouldn’t last and I would end up with someone else (and described a close friend of mine). This information seriously messed me up for a while and put a lot of doubt in my mind but my partner at the time and I are now married soooo I do think the ability is real but not sure I would recommend seeking it out because it can cause you to potentially make life altering decisions. I also think we have free will and deep down we know what the best decisions for us are. So just trust your gut ♥️

Lindzz

😭😭 WHAT

Cait

pls the creepy howling in the background at the end actually scared me

nella

boyf and I are being Wallace and Gromit (unrelated but I also have been a victim of street psychics!! during a period of deep mental unwellness a street psychic named Bee charged me $250 to tell me that the spirit of my dead grandfather was attached to my soul and asked for $2,000 to build a candle in my exact height and weight to use in a ritual that would banish him but luckily I was too broke to say yes. also later that month a tinder date was reading my tarot (yes I'm queer) and without knowing the psychic story ALSO told me that my dead grandfather was attached to my soul and was in the room with us!!!)

Hannah

Binchies!! Looking for an ep for a friend that I can’t find😩 I know the girlies talk about the scarcity of love fallacy somewhere but where??

Mo

my bf is being steve irwin and im being a crocodile.. bc obviously

Ellie Kimbrough

wait i’m obsessed

Ellie Kimbrough

Strangers to ourselves ?

Nat

me and my boyf are being Lindsay and Tobias Funke 😫

Meghan Hannum

ObSESSED with the was julia says the “psps” in wasps

Jordan Jones

FUCK YEAH ROCHESTER NY HISTORY MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥

Sabrina Benchaabane

Sophia Grace & Rosie 🫶

Courtney Chrystal

i’m being sexy mothman

mia callahan

My roommate and I are going as heat miser and snow miser🔥❄️

Moera Kalafatides Hunter

I feel it’s similar to the vibe you get when you know you’re being watched 👀

Emily

Can anyone please remind me the name of the book about mental health that Eliza recommended is called bc now I wanna get it lol

Chloe Cohen

I went to his Anaheim show last year and got a reading! and it was so life changing and surreal I still think about what he told me daily he’s INCREDIBLE

Chloe Cohen

i’m being a tomato for Halloween

CalamariAnderson

Julia I feel like you would slay a Nadya from what we do in the shadows costume.....

Allyn (uh-lyn)

Many moons ago, my mom was dating this guy she'd been friends with since preschool. He cheated on her, but pulled the whole "it didn't mean anything pls don't leave me 😔" so she (unfortunately) stayed with him. Then like literally 3 days later he goes to a psychic, and calls my mom like "A psychic said that I will marry a red haired woman with green eyes 🥰🥰" And guess who tf had red hair and green eyes? Not my mom! The woman he cheated with... (They did get married, I was the flower girl at their wedding. It did not work out)

Corrie

An interesting book about encounters with the other side is The In-Between by Hadley Vlahos. It's a memoir by a hospice nurse who talks about the experiences she's had with patients who are close to death. The veil is quite thin at both ends of life - it's a quick and fascinating read!

Shannon Doyle

it's already up!

Corrie

My advice to the wasp person would be to learn about wasp medicine / symbolism and see if there is something in there that you are resisting, a lesson asking to be learned or integrated ❤️

Katie Raffaini

These girls I went to high school with went to JAIL after attempting to hire a hitman from the internet (undercover cop obvi) to take out this guy who allegedly shot and killed the boyfriend of one of the girls. They tried to hire the “hitman” for $2000 and some jewelry, but the gag is that they were taking a hit out on this guy that had apparently been identified as the boyfriends murderer by a damn psychic

Taylor

I have always believed that the more you fear and believe that dark energy/spirits can get to you, the easier it can. The more you believe you are impenetrable and have the protection of thousands of ancestors behind you, the more untouchable you are ❤️

Katie Raffaini

Re grief vampires, the Fox sisters specifically lived with the family of Horace Greeley (founder of the New York herald tribune and eventual presidential candidate) after the death of their young son. His wife, not unlike Mary Todd Lincoln, clung to their “readings” in her grief. I doubt that was the fox sisters’ intention given their age and maybe it did give a grieving mother some peace? But having read a lot about the Greeley family I think it might have just enabled a grieving woman teetering toward spiritual psychosis 😐

Hannah

Me hearing abt the Boston show when I had tickets but got covid 🧍🏽‍♀️

Maggie Rodgers

My extended family, like cousins' cousins, have a lake house in New Hampshire that's been in their family for generations. I go every couple years and some of my earliest memories were feeling a ~haunting presence~ there. Last summer I ventured up to the attic for the first time and I had an overwhelming physical sensation there was Someone there, like an extreme heaviness (besides just the hot attic air). Soo creepy and I didn't know what to do with that download!

Lily Ana Verna

PLEASE please PLEASE PLEASE PLEASSSSE PLLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE POST PICS OF UR COSTUME ON THE GRAM

Eloise Hendrix

I understand the irony of posting this comment on the episode about psychic mediums, but friendly reminder that chiropractic is actually a pseudoscience that somehow scammed their way into being covered by medical insurance and supported by much of the evidence-based healthcare industry. An episode on that history would actually be super interesting.

Adam Naroden

I’m gonna be pippi longstocking anddd ms hannigan from the original annieee

Mai

Scam Goddess had a really good episode about the Fox sisters! https://open.spotify.com/episode/6d84agHuih1EL5vCNfRWvm?si=ca14a9a8449d4666

Rachel

I went to Anaheim and went to one of Tyler Henry’s live shows and it was insane to see him read random people in the crowd. His show on Netflix is called life after death! Loooove this episode 🍂

amanda sladen

im glad everyone else has had crazy interactions with psychics. i went to a psychic at a fair a few months after my friend died via suicide and this woman said i’m sensing you’ve experienced a great loss recently and when i shared about my friend she then proceeded to go on for 20 minutes about how sad she was that the lead singer of lincoln park had passed the same way and that we were going through the same thing i was so stunned i just paid my $40 and left these people are truly wilding out

riley

I loved this episode!! It was a great mix of research and personal anecdotes. However, the addition to the outro music of the spooky ghosts genuinely made me think that there was something wrong with my car. I guess I got a trick instead of a treat 🎃

Emma Schuster

Yeah I find it intrusive and I would be SOO SCARED if someone in public came up and said “hey I had a VISION about you” like no you’re a scammer stalker bye

avvsies

just wanna say that after i was walking outside listening to this ep and right after hearing the wasp story i encountered two wasps engaged in copulation on the sidewalk

ashley

somehow misheard tyler henry as tyler oakley and was realllllly confused for a second there

Holly Acker

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/characterai-lawsuit-teen-suicide.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&tgrp=ctr&pvid=01988A77-723F-413D-9610-782B3B887E57 please an episode on AI because this actually made me sick

Gabrielle Greco

my ouija board experience is one time when i was a kid my mom was mad at me so she went and got a ouija board and kind of threw it to me and said go talk to your dad (he’s dead) (i did not successfully make communication)

Lauren Patel

Also idk if you guys have ever watched inland empire (David Lynch) but it's such a great representation of haunted LA. Id love to hear your guys thoughts on it!!! It's also free on YouTube in full. Masterpiece

Sierra

My band is going to play a halloween show in morph suits where we have a different mask on for every song. I hope we can see. Wish me luck binches

Sierra

Wasp binchie, are you sure you haven't unwittingly summoned Candyman?

Maria Alvarado

Imagining the binchies walking into the stu in their outfits……..

Mia Westrap

Are there any London binchies? I’m looking for more gal pals!

Laura Gallagher

I, for one, welcome our new worm overlords

Devin

ummm i was eating chocolate during the wasp story and a wasp started following me around im scared

Hannah Carter

Unrelated but Are any other binchies running the nyc marathon

Nat

I was really hoping you guys were gonna be cloth mother/wire mother from the Harlow experiment! I haven’t decided what mine will be because Margot keeps waffling between a unicorn (normal costume for a toddler) and a Triscuit cracker (less normal for a toddler)

Allie

i'm dressing as HIM the villain from powerpuff girls & my boyfriend will be professor utonium

Haven Patrick

Julia asking questions about WHAT picking up a haunted vibe is was sooo interesting to me bc much like Eliza I feel I do pick up on things sometimes and I genuinely can’t … describe it? Truly it is a vibe download that ur not alone in that room or wherever u are

Chance Al-Hajji

I am being Pearl on halloweekend and then Daniel Boone on actual Hallows ween

Meg K

omg julia the worm cap has ears because it might be a conehead costume😭 classic snl skit

sophie jensen

gm midterm tmr this ep will save me🙏🏼🙏🏼

Gina Brown

so glad you guys are tapped into kalmia harris is a which… i quote it all the time and no one knows what im talking about

Sofia

going as sexy willy wonka 🎩

Breanna Villarreal

My bf and I are going as Mugatu and Katinka from Zoolander 💋

Audrey Dutt

Makes my aussie ass chuckle every time…

Isabella Carney

That being said, if anyone has any recommendations for a psychic in NYC, I wanna give it one more try

Erin Healey

It’s the sexy legendress tier

Erin Healey

I also got a mediumship reading done where I felt like they just made stuff up. Like they told me a greasy guy from high school who had died always had a crush on me and still did from beyond. I’m from a very small and would know when a young person in my community had passed. Also I’m a lesbian so I was like aw what the hell

Erin Healey

Every time I’ve seen a psychic or medium I always get the feeling that they’ve just run out of energy by the time I show up. One told me I was with the woman I’d be with for the rest of my life and she’d go to grad school at NYU. We broke up three months later and she now goes to Michigan State.

Erin Healey

My friend did a psychic development course and would just speculate in ways that were not great lol, we’d just be chilling and she’d be like “hey does your [family member] have [serious health issue]? Something just came to me…” and I was like no??? hello??? Why would you say that?????? Are they teaching you this is ok??

Emily

You need a third person to dress as Olivia Nuzzi

AK

for halloween im the princess and my bf is the pea🥰

Celia Doherty

Okay now that I'm imagining the Scooby Doo band Eliza does have to be Fred because ultimately Addy is Daphne and Jacob is Velma in a major way

Kaley Alness

Boston binchies up!!! 🥳

Lily Ana Verna

where do they post the video episodes? do I have to subscribe to pattreon more to get the video?

Sedona Steffens

I will always be obsessed with Julia’s pronunciation of emu ❤️

Emily

i have been to a teresa caputo show three times lol

Courtney Deutz

OK, ELIZA trying to describe that feeling was so real. I get the same feeling but for me it’s like my chest gets super heavy and I feel like if I move closer to what I perceived to be a being my chest gets heavier and the room gets hotter. You feel like there is something in the air and there’s like agravitational pull almost. I would just forewarnEliza, if you plan on having kids my first pregnancy was super hard because I would have terrible nightmares constantly that would cause me to wake up in the middle of the night and I would see figures and shadows it lasted my entire pregnancy and only stopped after I had, my son. I even tried to have one of my witchy friends make a spell jar for me to see if that would ward any off but unfortunately no. Definitely a bit creepy and not so fun for my mental health lol

Abi Clarke

My costume suggestion made it ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

Sofia Garcia

Baldwinitos would be a VEEERY good costume

tinypurse

u mean cunty king baldwinito

avvsies

I got mine into them too omg the boyfriend army is growing

Nico L.

Yaass listening to this while making butternut squash soup rn

Nico L.

Max should go as Spongebob, Julia as the Alaskaan Bull worm and Eliza as Sandy.

Josh F

Yessss new ep to infodump onto my mans later

avvsies

first to comment my Halloween costume I am going as Cunty king Baldwin V

tinypurse

was listening to the episode backlog while at work RIGHT when this drops ohhhh Binchies timing is always right

Sam Hanelt

Post walk goss

Jake

God bless you ladies perf timing u will get me thru the work day

M Strom

witchtopia ™

Heather

OHHHH SHIIIIIIII

Jayda


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