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Your Logic is a Box & the Horizon is Calling (Q&A Episode)

Our first real Q and A episode is finally here! Clocking in at 2.5 hours in length, I tried to cover as many questions as I could. Broader sections, question topics, and books mentioned are listed below, along with time stamps.

INTRO: 0:00 - 5:43

PART 1: On the Performance of Self: 5:43

Choosing the right metaphors when it comes to dating: 5:43

How to deal with the fear of having an audience: 19:56

PART 2: On Finding the Light in a Dying World: 31:38

Is there an endpoint to inner work, or are we just hiding out in the self-help section of Barnes and Noble while the world burns?: 31:38

Society-wide narcissism & whether we should be "black-pilled" about it: 48:40

The Covid Era as metaphor: 1:05:25

Finding meaning & motivation with long-term depression: 1:11:44

PART 3: On Symbolism & Dreams: 1:27:41

The Desert & The Void: 1:27:41

Hot take: What's the purpose of dreaming?: 1:42:46

The Hero's Journey, depression, & storytelling: 1:49:49

PART 4: On MBTI & Cognitive Functions: 1:53:57

Finding your dominant function: 1:53:58

What about the functions that don’t appear in your “stack” or type?: 2:01:42

How to develop the 3rd function: 2:06:50

What if I’m overusing a function that isn’t my dominant? 2:14:00

Thought experiment: what if we added another personality type to Jung's model?:  2:17:28

Books & Resources Mentioned This Episode:

Catafalque - Peter Kingsley

Prophetic Culture - Federico Campagna

The Culture of Narcissism - Christopher Lasch

Women Who Run with the Wolves - Clarissa Pinkola Estés

Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy

Personality test & research mentioned in the episode... the paper I referenced about the "bicycle formation" can be accessed after taking the test, which primarily tests you on the cognitive functions themselves. It's not the most rigorous assessment I've found, but still fun and interesting if you're exploring the world of typology: http://keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

Comments

I'm really glad to have encountered your podcast and the literary references you build on. Catafalque is an exceptional piece of work.

yaguha

I've read one of Jung's books it was on dreams, but I should check out more of his works. I found a copy of "Four Archetypes" recently, might crack that open soon. This was awesome. When really trying to process what you're saying about the functions being "like a map" it leads me to consider that I need to step back, relax and start to think about "the functions" more in a way that's comparable to a kaleidoscope and less like a set of solid categories. Earlier in life I used to type as an ENFP. I think this had largely more than anything else to do with my family and environment of origin. But as I've gotten older I do find that being really present in the moment matches my natural sense of flow. It seems like there's a sense of fluidity that can appear when considering where one's footing lies. Which is maybe the conflict or fusion between one's intrinsic nature/preferences and with where we "spawned"(gamer jargon) from. The only thing I would add is that my question really stemmed from a misunderstanding in the way that you identify tertiary and auxiliary. It was less about "am I doing it right" and more about "what do you as some one who is REALLY well read on Jung's work call and label tertiary vs auxiliary"? I think your way of labeling them is reversed from what I've known and learned. As an ESTP Ti is my auxilary and Fe is my tertiary. And I just wanted to be sure that I understand what your saying and maybe consider that the way I learned it isn't actually the way Jung saw it? Meh, but ultimately this stuff isn't really important, and I can't stress enough that I do find your explorations to be VERY insightful. The value that your providing us as an audience seems like a more authentic interpretation of something that is in itself "interpretative" and less "empirical"... In a way, by nature, I probably have more in common with Sigmund Freud since we're both sensing thinkers which is maybe why I caused ya to have to get so "granular" with the "vernacular" hahaha. Sorry about that and thanks for being so well thought out on your response regardless. I can't wait to hear where this continues to go, and good luck with everything. Humbly/Graciously, A materialist :P

Jim Bochanski


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