Bakemonogatari 1x9: "E9 - Nadeko Snake, Part 1" // Reaction and Discussion
Added 2024-08-16 23:27:08 +0000 UTC
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do not use the lord's name in vain
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-28 20:46:47 +0000 UTCjust joined, oh my fucking god the subs are insufferable. Patreon is meant to support creators, it's not netflix.
Gianluca Angeli
2024-08-27 22:35:18 +0000 UTCZenbu zenbu zenbu zenbu
David Pómez
2024-08-27 01:36:47 +0000 UTCHaha get pranked guys it was just a flight delay lol they really had us going there didn't they Haha well at least they are back right. Can't wait for this exact same thing to happen again for the 3rd or 4th time.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-26 20:37:06 +0000 UTCAren't there some mods with whom we can talk? This is really concerning.
Leonardo Penazzi
2024-08-26 16:52:57 +0000 UTCWishing you guys the best I hope everything is okay
smth positive_
2024-08-26 13:04:33 +0000 UTCHow do you know She quit her job?
Leonardo Penazzi
2024-08-26 10:00:22 +0000 UTCGenuinely concerned at this point. It was just a couple weeks ago that Anna quit her job to focus on the channel, so to not give any update for this long is odd. I can only imagine something serious has happened.
Ryan
2024-08-26 06:36:36 +0000 UTCDamn hope they're doing well
DBR
2024-08-26 04:42:38 +0000 UTCI pray that you are both safe and at peace. Though I do not know what troubles you are going through, I trust you to persevere. For all those feeling anxiety, remember that all things are meant to be, and that God is never taken off guard or surprised by anything. Obey him, and he will be with you always. Have faith my friends. We will be okay, and AutoSave will be okay. Hallelujah!
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-25 16:05:22 +0000 UTCBut that’s my whole point, hence the "please update".
long ass username
2024-08-25 14:23:24 +0000 UTCI'm honestly fine with delays and stuff, after all life happens. It's the radio silence that get's to me, a simple message would ease my anxious...
Gabriel Cabral
2024-08-25 13:51:45 +0000 UTCI have a love/hate relationship with these two now and I think we’re in need of couple’s therapy. Please update us when delaying reactions by several days. We’re paying 10$ a month to basically deal with a Gachaesque uploading schedule.
long ass username
2024-08-25 10:11:00 +0000 UTCYes. These two are extremely unreliable when it comes to communicating with their audience & frequently use mental health as a cop-out to excuse that fact. As if Anna can’t update us with a short text when Ben is having a tough time. 95% of this community was always so understanding & supportive of that, but now moods seem to sour.
long ass username
2024-08-25 10:05:47 +0000 UTCI have to assume something serious has happened at this point. Prayers out, no joke.
Ronald Bohne
2024-08-25 05:15:17 +0000 UTCEmbrace THE CHAOS!
Meow_Lin
2024-08-25 03:51:45 +0000 UTCLooked like at least the first poll result show was timed to sync up with one of the current shows ending. Since delays tend to mean everything shifts to right rather than a backlog dump will that result in delays on the new shows too?
Daniel
2024-08-25 03:24:55 +0000 UTCSupplies are low, morale lower, Verols already had a psychotic break and more may follow. I travel now to Yaboyroshi in the desperate hope of aid. If I don't return I've either died or unsubscribed. Godspeed
Will
2024-08-25 02:57:09 +0000 UTCSo you're implying they made up his bipolar episode? That's a shitty thing to say
Gromzi
2024-08-25 00:13:32 +0000 UTC"especially when it’s not their main job". 3 months ago Anna posted that she quit her job to focus on the channel. I think expecting a one-sentence update post once delays happen isn't unreasonable.
Gromzi
2024-08-25 00:05:56 +0000 UTCnot true, this has happened multiple times
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-24 21:31:04 +0000 UTCwell not really. it only happened once before.
Zipzip
2024-08-24 21:25:05 +0000 UTCI know, but I think people would be more calmer if there were news about the situation 😅 Just an update lol Corporate-like radio silence is a bit annoying.
Leonardo Penazzi
2024-08-24 16:03:21 +0000 UTC↑that my g~trance is saying. I have not checked i how it is trancelated...sry indeed. ここ日本人視聴者も多いだろうと、勝手に思って傷物語の復習勧めました、日本国内のみのコメントをこのchでするということは暴挙で愚行とは思っていますが、何かの役に立てば…と思い敢えてです。本当に申し訳ない。
Isa Naka
2024-08-24 16:03:07 +0000 UTC"KIZU" is particularly prone to arguments over the order of reactions, but I think these two would definitely be able to keep up with the discussion. So the discussion about the order is probably just about how to enjoy it. I respect the idea of watching it in the order of release, and it's up to Autosave to decide. While the app, including that streaming service, is still offering it for free in Japan, people should rewatch I, II, and III. If you're using it because it's an exclusive distribution this season, and you have no choice but to do so, and if you don't like long, pointless commercials, all you have to do is think deep down about the company's --. Oh, sorry for only talking about Japan here m(_ _)m
Isa Naka
2024-08-24 15:56:06 +0000 UTCI mean last time Ben was the opposite of fine
ElectricAnt
2024-08-24 15:30:56 +0000 UTCNew sub here lol by the looks of the comment section I’m guessing this is a normal occurrence then 😅
Denzel Moton
2024-08-24 15:25:48 +0000 UTCEverybody shut up and let things go on as they are even though we all agree there is a problem. Peak logic right there.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-24 13:56:02 +0000 UTCThis happens every month they are fine don't worry
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-24 13:52:23 +0000 UTCAre you ok?
Leonardo Penazzi
2024-08-24 12:54:53 +0000 UTCYes, I would think it will be better if people stop threatening to cancel and act like they are owned the world for their 10$ and jus let them do their thing as they can/want but clearly I’m in the minority at least in the active commenters part so I’m just gonna stop, you right, this discussion doesn’t help anyone really, I’m just killing time
Verols
2024-08-24 05:35:14 +0000 UTCHope you guys are doing ok!
Zach Herigstad
2024-08-24 03:24:44 +0000 UTC@Verols Dude... The point of complaining about the lack of updates or the ignored scheduled is that they will see these criticisms and do something about it, making the situation better for everyone. Even if you think this is pointless, the goal is a positive change. On the other hand, what do you gain if you win and everyone shuts up and stops complaining? What good does that do? There is no point in discouraging others from voicing their opinion, even if you disagree with them. You're okay with the lack of updates? Good for you. But don't try to police everyone else, please, it doesn't serve anyone. The best you could achieve is start a flame war and that wouldn't make anyone happy, including Anna and Ben.
Humanoïde
2024-08-24 01:29:12 +0000 UTCSo you have such a plan! I am supporting $10, but since I don't watch all the videos that are uploaded, I thought it would be nice if I could pay per video instead of per month. This is just a wish, so if there are videos I want to watch, I will continue to support in the current form. However, as we are discussing right now, I thought that if the scheduled videos are not updated due to circumstances, the monthly payment would be more frustrating.
yamada
2024-08-24 00:56:03 +0000 UTCYes, Patreon is meant to support creators rather than function as a marketplace, but they consistently posts schedules without committing to them. Posting content in bulk when there's a delay?, they just pick up where they left off, regardless of whether the delay is a week or a month. While the schedule isn't part of the advertised tiers, posting it creates an expectation, so it's understandable that people get frustrated when those expectations aren't met. They aren’t obligated to stick to a schedule, but if they choose to post one, they should either stop if they can’t reliably commit or clearly state that the schedule is tentative and subject to change. If they can’t commit, they should avoid posting one altogether. It doesn’t matter if it’s an extra, clear communication is key, and it’s not that hard to do.
Ecodude
2024-08-24 00:27:48 +0000 UTCI wouldn't blame them,i dropped the manga after that scene like many others
EastNewSound
2024-08-23 21:59:03 +0000 UTCI think knowing niconico MAD and other sites’ is pretty strong anime fan maybe about 10 years ago... I feel like there were many really deep overseas anime fans (that stood out). But now I have thought it is normal for casual many fans to be on YouTube as well. So, I mean it looks I was reckless for who love autosave and apologize for my care-less^^; I forget that there are a lot of veteran or goot anime fans here. (also hidden Japanese) I remember HANAZAWA is called fried pants producer.,though
Isa Naka
2024-08-23 20:57:29 +0000 UTCYou see it as terrible because you viewing it wrong, as some sort of content shop, trying to maximize “profit” and god forbid spending one dollar more than you should, when Patreon is a system that supposed to allow you to pledge your support to creators and get something in return, if you’re so scared at wasting more money just wait until every episode is out and pay then, because stuff happens, especially when it’s not their main job, and I’d rather have some idea of a schedule that can be broken sometime than none at all, at the end of the day you again start an argument from monetary gain standpoint , even if they would post an update which is a main issue here you still would be “forced” to pay for another month, which is insane take btw
Verols
2024-08-23 20:50:38 +0000 UTC" "I pay therefore I'm entitled to something" point is really stupid" I agree. The problem is that they release schedules saying there will be a certain amount of uploads of a given show in one payment cycle, but they almost never actually stick to schedule which results in reduced uploads, forcing you to pay for another month if you want all the uploads that were scheduled for the previous month. It's an objectively terrible system.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-23 20:30:43 +0000 UTCThat's just extra stuff, which is also on yt, doesn't have anything to do with tier rewards, it's not even edited for Patreon lately. My point is that yea, while more updates would be great, it's also true for yt, probably won't happen, it's one of the cons you get, complaining from a "I pay therefore I'm entitled to something" point is really stupid
Verols
2024-08-23 14:30:12 +0000 UTCI've been thinking that all week LMAO
Loayza
2024-08-23 14:26:57 +0000 UTC@Verols "you get what is advertised - content ahead of YouTube and full length" Except this is factually untrue. They advertise the monthly schedule every 30 days and from my memory I can't remember a single time they actually stayed with the schedule and kept up with uploads.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-23 14:20:39 +0000 UTC"hopefully they don't read the comments" lol i know right? the horrors of reading the comment section from your own youtube and patreon channels. I couldn't imagine the pain.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-23 14:18:47 +0000 UTCthey probably watched the last episode of heavenly delusion and got so incredibly scarred and traumatized that they lost all apatite to watch any anime for the rest of the year.. XD
Nut Kon
2024-08-23 14:17:34 +0000 UTCi agree with you, having schedule is bad when its not followed, but other than that its patreon... I dont see it as having a sub to netflix/crunchyroll and not having access to most shows (need to use vpn aswell etc). They dont have editor i assume, and if one of them or both of them get hit with life, delays happen. I have a friend that recieves way more money thru patreon, but he is working on modding games, he doesn't have schedule which is good, so people can really just decide if they want to put a pledge montly or not. Also you still get access to all the other videos ever made, obv its our problem if we have watched them all and just waiting for new vids. Patreon subscriptions just suck in general if u ask me, compared to other subscription based sites. But then again u can just cancel and wait for a bigger bulk 1-3 months and watch everything.
Vladi
2024-08-23 13:50:54 +0000 UTCI think you can set that up, though. I remember being subscribed to someone who had "pay per major update" as a setting but I don't know how all of it works
Appriser
2024-08-23 13:19:54 +0000 UTCIt's a sentiment that is brought up every single time there is a delay, yes it would be nice to have more updates, it also would be nice not to type every single time that someone is going to cancel their sub/paying for a service/not getting benefits because ultimately they always post videos, just a bit later and in bulk, you either unsatisfied and cancel or you're understanding and deal with it, these comments about sub fee are pathetic on what is ultimately a donation/support system for creators rather that a store selling products, and even if you consider it binding, you get what is advertised - content ahead of YouTube and full length, and it's not like YouTube get any updates when delay occures. At this point I would just stop posting schedule because in case of a delay people start complaining, so just stop posting it and make everyone else suffer because some people can't handle waiting a week when there's schedule posted
Verols
2024-08-23 11:43:37 +0000 UTCI think it's completely valid to feel a bit frustrated for being left in the dark. It's understandable to miss uploads because of life, but at the same time, we are technically paying for a product/service. A small little update would go a long way.
Dreamz
2024-08-23 11:31:28 +0000 UTCHow so? Maybe wording is wrong on my part, esl moment, but saying it's been two weeks without updates is factually incorrect, and even if, complaining and threatening to cancel is helping nothing, it happens every time there's a delay and always annoying, not to encourage anyone but you can always leave a reason when unsubbing, no need to cry in the comments that they probably and hopefully won't read anyway
Verols
2024-08-23 06:38:36 +0000 UTCBecause there's critical thinking is why people are complaining, not everyone shares your point of view, no need to be witty and passive agressive about it.
Higu Art
2024-08-23 06:30:04 +0000 UTCI understand what you are saying. Likewise, I can understand the feelings of those who are providing support. However, in the unlikely event that stronger words than opinions (slander, etc.) are thrown at two people, they must be condemned with all their might.
yamada
2024-08-23 06:27:32 +0000 UTCBut hey, what's important is to complain about the sub right? Who needs critical thinking
Verols
2024-08-23 05:59:13 +0000 UTCErm, I might've accidentally fallen asleep for a week? The very first video that's late is Dungeon meshi that should've been 4 days ago, the rest is even less, not counting live stuff cuz Anna was out of town Edit: sorry, Heavenly Delusions so 5 days, in that case clearly it's the end of the world and grounds to start a mob
Verols
2024-08-23 05:53:50 +0000 UTCWhile I understand what you're saying, it's been almost two weeks and only radio silence, that's not just "a couple" of days lol. But you do you I guess
Meow_Lin
2024-08-23 05:51:40 +0000 UTCIf Patreon had a plan such as “pay $● per video for immediate access”, it would have matched Ben and Anna's current situation.
yamada
2024-08-23 05:19:41 +0000 UTCThere are only two certainties in this world, death and that autosave subs will complain and threaten to cancel their incredibly expensive sub every bloody time there's a delay for a couple of days
Verols
2024-08-23 05:17:26 +0000 UTCAgreed. Very late on updates ...
Ronald Bohne
2024-08-23 03:12:30 +0000 UTCI have to agree with the others, $10 is a lot to ask for when updates aren't being met :( The schedule while nice is starting to feel useless since the dates listed aren't being met.
Meow_Lin
2024-08-23 02:57:18 +0000 UTC86 should be done now but it missed three weeks so far :(
Aaron Wright
2024-08-23 02:06:10 +0000 UTCalso been here a while so i take the schedule with a grain of salt. i personally dont mind the delays in uploads. it's the radio silence that bothers me. i just want an update even if it's just to say "life happened" so i at least could stop thinking something bad happened irl
Kai Palaran
2024-08-22 23:33:09 +0000 UTClove hanazawa. especially in second season. such a great performance.
TheMightyAnt
2024-08-22 23:26:38 +0000 UTChonestly nise is what im waiting for. can't wait for ben to hide his face for half the show lmao
TheMightyAnt
2024-08-22 23:25:07 +0000 UTCI'm totally fine with them having a loose and flexible upload schedule with no quotas or set deadlines, they just have to stop pretending to have a schedule and also just watch less shows overall.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-22 20:24:38 +0000 UTCAgreed, all I ask is a post saying delayed…I’m paying money here so it’s just a small courtesy
Aaron Wright
2024-08-22 19:32:26 +0000 UTCI've been a patreon for a long time and this is not something new, it happened a lot and kinda sad that I'm used to it lol I understand that life happens and it could be difficult to upload the reactions and they also have life outside this so for me it wouldn't be an issue if they just don't post shedules and just say "we'll upload whenever we can", also just commit to a realistic number of series instead of a ton of new shows, and a quick update if they will dissapear for some time. But again, this isn't something new and it seems like the "it is what it is, if you like it then stay, if don't then leave" approach lol
Ecodude
2024-08-22 17:21:25 +0000 UTCyeah I only subbed for Heavenly Delusion thinking they'd finish the series this month and I could just binge it all but it was clearly a mistake. I know they are usually delayed with their schedules so this isn't new but man I don't think I can justify subbing next month for one or two more episodes.
Kozmo
2024-08-22 15:33:52 +0000 UTCThe problem is in the false advertising. If they gave absolutely no schedule for uploads than nobody could complain. I don't know why they keep making these detailed day-by-day schedules for every month stacked with a dozen different shows for every day of the week, fully knowing it's absolutely impossible for them to keep up with it (as they have shown over and over again). It's gotten to the point where it is quite shady to get people to give you 10$ for a month of uploads which according to the schedule should be dozens and dozens of uploads, only to never actually commit to the schedule.
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-22 15:20:49 +0000 UTCThe inconcistency to which they upload videos is really frustrating... I know and understand they have their circumstances, but it does make it difficult to justify the subscription fee
Enrique Barloco
2024-08-22 14:14:36 +0000 UTCI understand that you both have your own circumstances, but I partially agree. I am paying $10 to see the full reactions of both of you as soon as possible, but this is a tough price for this frequency.......(´;ω;｀)
yamada
2024-08-22 08:03:40 +0000 UTCI wish you guys would update us more often. Especially if you are going to be off on uploads by a week. Sucks checking for uploads everyday just to be let down. An update would fix that.
JP77
2024-08-21 23:20:32 +0000 UTCLol
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2024-08-21 20:42:29 +0000 UTCWhat happened to Heavenly Delusion?
ElectricAnt
2024-08-21 16:37:11 +0000 UTCAnd also a lot of memes made with this song, especially the Lit 420 version of is a gem of the past
Vladi
2024-08-21 12:45:07 +0000 UTCThis song was very popular on YouTube in the 2010s there were dances and covers from Niconico. Everybody loved Hanazawa Kana's voice
Wanderer
2024-08-20 21:40:08 +0000 UTCum...what a great time I live in, with MONOGATARI being posted by autosave…including its movie👍 (that's why I singed up patreon…actually^^;) by the way, I saw another YouTuber said "I know this OP for some reason!" a few years ago, but I wonder how its OP became known outside of Japan (?)
Isa Naka
2024-08-20 15:24:59 +0000 UTCGromzi I'm pretty they'll rewatch it in its entirety many times, they're really loving it
sunshine
2024-08-19 10:34:49 +0000 UTCElectricAnt she's unlikable imo but that doesn't make her bad, within the screentime she got
sunshine
2024-08-19 10:33:56 +0000 UTCGaen
ElectricAnt
2024-08-18 07:53:27 +0000 UTCThe Crunchyroll order won the poll. If they said something else maybe I overlooked it, tell me where they said it please?
Loayza
2024-08-18 00:10:42 +0000 UTCThey said they they are doing the LN order i don't know why people lie when stuff is easily fact checkable
Cristian
2024-08-17 21:39:49 +0000 UTCThis reaction series is so goated
Wanderer
2024-08-17 18:21:04 +0000 UTCI hope they'll sometimes rewatch older arcs to get context for different events and characters. That's pretty much unavoidable with watching such a long series once a week, and especially Monogatari.
Gromzi
2024-08-17 13:09:52 +0000 UTCanalyzing it so thoroughly wont lead to anything if they have forgotten everything by the time they reach tsukimonogatari in one year
Dominik Lux
2024-08-17 12:18:28 +0000 UTChell yeah, no one does it like nisioisin
sunshine
2024-08-17 10:20:41 +0000 UTCloved the surprise and reactions at the opening
sunshine
2024-08-17 10:19:02 +0000 UTCshe doesn't like being called cute is what bro was getting at, that aside, she's solidified as the cutest character ever after nadeko draw, no one does it like her.
sunshine
2024-08-17 10:18:19 +0000 UTCkimi no shiranai's so freaking awesome. platinum disco is my fav.
sunshine
2024-08-17 10:14:33 +0000 UTCgod, I love kanbaru!!
sunshine
2024-08-17 10:11:40 +0000 UTCDid they say they're doing the Crunchyroll order? I remember hearing or reading about LN order. Watching Kizu late would be a shame, it really should be watched after Bake.
Ica
2024-08-17 08:23:33 +0000 UTCMathemagics being more than a year away makes me sad:D
Verols
2024-08-17 05:32:26 +0000 UTCThe wait for the kizumonogatari Movies grows ever more excruciating
Spaniq
2024-08-17 05:20:37 +0000 UTCRotfl, I love how curious you were Anna to hear where Ben was going with, "There are several important dates in my life..." Me thinks he may have a found his waifu haha, but I'm sure you'll work it out.
7thdilemma
2024-08-17 04:13:26 +0000 UTCOoooh ok ok, that works for me. I feel that Kizu before Nise is the most important thing about the order.
Roberto
2024-08-17 03:22:51 +0000 UTCKimi no Shiranai Monogatari is actually my favorite of the bunch, too, but Renai Circulation is definitely the more well-known song I think.
KenthalasAT
2024-08-17 02:50:24 +0000 UTCWhat perfect timing to see this episode after the one that came out last week (off season).
Loayza
2024-08-17 02:28:20 +0000 UTCAre you saying Nadeko isn't cute??
Enrique Barloco
2024-08-17 02:24:32 +0000 UTCThey're doing the Crunchyroll order, which is the release order but with Kizu between Bake and Nise. I wish we could get them to switch to the LN order, as the voting seems to have been inaccurate due to the confusion of many believing they were voting for the LN order and were actually voting for Crunchyroll's order. Anyway this order is not bad I guess.
Loayza
2024-08-17 02:23:24 +0000 UTCAren't they doing light novel order? Kizu would be after bake, otherwise the big shinobu scene in Nise wouldn't make too much sense.
Roberto
2024-08-17 02:07:10 +0000 UTCAnna's first comment about Nadeko: "So cute" Uh oh...
Alex
2024-08-17 02:06:17 +0000 UTCI'm honestly amazed at their analysis of the show, I have rewatched monogatari multiple times and there are several things I never noticed until they pointed out (nadeko drawing in the op for example).
Gabriel Cabral
2024-08-17 02:05:39 +0000 UTCGiven that they release one episode per week, and there are over 50 episodes remaining before the movie, it will be quite a while before they can watch the movie if they plan to watch everything in order.
Claude
2024-08-17 02:05:31 +0000 UTCYeah, the Honorifics would go a long way
Skeletan
2024-08-17 01:36:01 +0000 UTCNever liked Renai Circulation, if I'm honest. Sugar Sweet Nightmare is better. Staple Stable is better. Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari clears the lot of them. *Ika Kaisou* is better, and that's a retread of Tubular Bells. Been salty about this for a decade and a half at this point. 😅
Jae Armstrong
2024-08-17 01:13:25 +0000 UTCA bad character does not exist in the world of Monogatari... all are S Tier!
Nicolas
2024-08-17 00:58:00 +0000 UTCI second this
Loayza
2024-08-17 00:51:03 +0000 UTCBesides reading the cards at the end of the episode, they also analyze the OPs 😭. At this rate, they'll become experts at analyzing Monogatari, and I love it. If I could ask for one more thing, it would be for them to use the version with honorifics from MTBB subtitles, which usually comes alongside the regular version.
Ry
2024-08-17 00:39:17 +0000 UTCDude I can't wait for you guys to see the Kizumonogatari movies, great showcase of what Hanekawa said this episode "being kind to everyone is irresponsible"
Roberto
2024-08-16 23:54:30 +0000 UTCNot only do you get a new opening this episode, it is possibly one of the most famous and beloved anime songs of all time.
KenthalasAT
2024-08-16 23:36:24 +0000 UTC
