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September Zoom Update/Q and A Session!

[EDIT: date was changed to Thursday 9/29]

We're going to have our monthly Light Bringer Zoom session on Thursday at 1PM Eastern. We'll give some updates and answer patron questions.  So...please put your questions in  the comments below!

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I also wonder if there is a way to "crowdsource" certain tasks that would benefit researchers - for example, have a group of people work together to create a common doc that would be searchable of the George Hunter White datebooks that are available online https://purl.stanford.edu/bp296fg4502 but hard to read and make accessible. (though you can make out here "Civil Liberites and Rubber Hose Society")

Dogface Reilly

What are your thoughts in the Nord Stream 2 sabotage?

Gregory Packet

Is anyone doing quantitative analysis of subjects covered on the show and in your book? For example studying social networks of figures in the deep state or, say, the Jfk assassination? Could data analysis like this be done?

Dogface Reilly

How would you define sovereignty, Aaron and company? How would you say the various factions of the United States security state define it? Is there a consensus between you and Seamus, and co.? Between the US factions? Between nations and academics, anyone? If the US has the supreme experience of sovereignty, should we avoid confusion and only use it for the extreme aspect of the word, or does American sovereignty deserve something new and differentiating? Examples might be: - describing the injustice of criminalizing people who are invoking bodily sovereignty (often even while on tribal lands: https://open.substack.com/pub/multipolarista/p/us-political-prisoners-list) - or a nation state’s right to any necessary defense in order to survive an attack stemming from pre-21st century thinking, like marauding, opportunistic racism. - And then there are the marauders creating apartheid states and trading nuclear weapons with each other. Albeit with their own best interests in mind, however wrong they might be. These shouldn’t be stuffed into a single word. Such a word must never be ambiguous lest the meaning is lost in translation.

Louis Waweru

In my opinion it’s more like those guys have a sincere belief that they were going to be able to go into Iraq and turn it into a liberal democracy. I think they really believed in the vision they had for democracy in Iraq. They thought they could quickly win and be celebrated and be able to implement the corporatist economic reforms they believe in.

Jparisi

Does Pete Dale Scott/your line of thinking factor in the "smoky room" theory that events like 9/11 and Gladio were 100% planned from step A to step Z, for completely nefarious purposes, fully aware of the fallouts? AKA did Dick Cheney say "Blow up these fuckin towers so we can murder a million Iraqis, hehehe" Or is it all a big oopsie?

Steven Ayy

Great question

Eoghan Flanagan

Give us a link or whatever to that "The Farm" episode. I never heard of that.

Cultus Daemon

Just wanted to get your perspective as to whether there are any specific scholars or departments in the US where people interested in studying deep politics in the way you have might want to look at that would be at least somewhat receptive to this kind of research?

Matt Pierce

Just wanted to throw out that The Farm has an episode of their Secret History of International Fascism series that digs deeply into the connections between the American Christian Right and deep politics.

Matt Pierce

I also had a question about the connection between the Deep State and Christianity, but slightly different than Jed's (above). I'm wondering, beyond the question of fundamentalism, what insights you all might have about the specific Deep State figures and agencies (CIA, etc) you know so well and examples of their historic infiltration and use of Christian churches and their ideologies more broadly. There are a few docs on the CIA website about sponsoring anti-Liberation theology work in the 70s and 80s; the weird death of popular anti-war monk Thomas Merton, etc -- would love to hear if you're aware of all this and have any insight about the specific methods of how the Church has been a site of imperial subversion or a part of imperial propaganda. If there are any good resources on this stuff for us to dive into, would love to know. Thanks for all the great work.

Scott Prather

How would you characterize the relationship between the fundamentalist , American Evangelical strain of Christianity and the American Deep State? And if there is a relationship there (which I think there is), do you thank that made it easier for this structure to form a common project with Saudi Fundamentalists?

Jed S Bickman

Watched wormwood doc, surprisingly good. How do you make sense out of someone like Seymour Hersh? Lots of access but his reporting seems embarrassing for the security state. Appears less like Woodward and Bernstein, after re-reading his bin laden story. What am I missing? Also, what do you make of Pablo Escobar? Portrayals of him in pop culture seem to play a big role in obscuring state criminality in the Latin American drug trade, leaving ordinary people with the impression that one flashy evil guy drove the entire cocaine trafficking system.

Joseph Ellerbroek

Would be interning to hear how William I Robinsons transnational capitalist class thesis intersects with yours. Specifically, the idea of blocks of power in the TNC and how this compares to the the more homogeneous deep state I think your advocating. You both see corporations as ultimately the power brokers, however I think Robinson sees these transnational corporations and their counterparts in other countries as the power block, whereas, if I'm reading you correctly, you see the intranational as ultimately more important? 🤔 Many thanks

John

Hey, been listening this summer from Bristol in the UK, and just finishing your book which has been very insightful and is really excellent, congratulations. Do you have any thoughts on how organs of the British deep state evolved from still [in my understanding] having some of their own agency through the early post War years to becoming more and more subjegated into being the complete servant of the US deep state we see today (in much the same way as mainland European countries seemingly more immediately became through Gladio)? Or if you even agree with that conceit at all?

James Simpson


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