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a0.14 Leak

It was just brought to my attention that the last patron update had been leaked via u18chan.

Given it went live only 2 days ago, I cannot stress how disappointing and saddening it is to see the links thrown to the public. I've read the thread that to say that least, it's disheartening to have people say that the update was underwhelming without voicing it directly to you, or suggest things on how it could be made better.

As it stands, despite asking multiple times on Discord and even in the post for the build itself, only two people have asked additional questions, but no one has said explicitly good or bad things about the update so far. This has become a growing trend where getting feedback on what I'm doing good or bad has been non-existent. I'm trying to make a great experience and I'm only going off what I assume is the correct call. For the love of god if I'm doing something wrong, tell me!

That being said, despite the links being shared on u18chan, they no longer work. I've since taken down the builds until I can figure out a solution if any, or at least give me a chance to do damage control. The links will probably work again soon enough, but I need to collect some more data.

To be clear, if people had expressed a dissatisfaction with the content of the build I would've done something about it. Making it public sooner, amending additional content, or something. But giving the build not even a week before sharing it, or even saying anything to me personally, hurts.

When I've figured out what I can do about it, I'll let you guys know.

Comments

Sucks for the leaks, but it's inevitable in a public forum like this. From the point of view of someone that doesn't give feedback but would like to, I already enjoy the content you make and the only feedback I could give is I want to see you keep up with the pace you've already set for yourself, and to one day see a complete product. I feel I can only give actual constructive feedback once the entire picture is laid out, and see how the pieces of the narrative work together from start to end. I agree all art is a collaborative effort between the creator and the audience, but I feel like feedback is being sought for fundamental parts of the work. Give us your vision for what you want made, as I'm already satisfied with what's being offered so far. The criticisms can help with the polish phase after the base is made. Edit: Having said the above, I agree with an above comment for polls being good for feedback, and at this point in time a good way to ask what to prioritize (like you've done a little earlier) - but not for asking how to make the content, as that's your vision to see realized. Have more faith in yourself and what you, yourself, wants to create.

Wow, I can't believe someone would do that. That's really messed up. I guess some just don't appreciate it as much as it's worth. As for the game, I'm loving it dude! Keep up the great work! You're an amazing writer and developer, I look forward to seeing how this story plays out. Though I will say I'm having a good bit of trouble finding the correct questions to ask during the interrogation so I can continue with the update. Other than that, it's great so far! :)

Atticus_the_wolf

I've loved the updates, the only reason the last one was 'underwhelming' was because it's just sitting there and racking your brain for what to ask. I saved the game right before choosing to ask or not so I can go back and try when something occurs to me, but on all the routes I basically just skipped it for now. There's nothing wrong with the update, there's just not a whole lot to it. Maybe just add a portion of the next morning? I don't know. Without knowing what questions to ask the update takes all of 2 minutes to read through, you know? Like I said, it's not something done wrong, it's just rather short, I'd say. That said, it's horrible someone posted the update publicly. I'm sorry that happened, regardless of the contents. :/

Amy Eklund

Noticed it suddenly got posted, don't get why they needed to its only $1 to get the patreon stuff hardly going to break the bank on it. As for the builds being good or bad they've all been good imo, the latest one not so much but that's just because I cant work out what to ask, only got him to talk about two things and he wouldn't go into further detail about one and anything else I asked just got stone walled. So it felt like a very small update but again that's because i'm clearly missing stuff not the update itself but I could see how people mite get disappointed if they don't know what to ask since the update was only the meeting, tho with all the possible options that alone I can see being a programing nightmare.

badger225

U18chan is always been a problem for creators because it’s built on piracy and distribution of stolen comics and Patreon exclusive artwork it’s a real shame

There is not much that can be done about it. Once there is enough demand, even for a niche product (which furry vns in general are) there is no stopping someone redistributing it. Batch sending links in patreon messages might be of help. Using itchio launcher can also make access to links somewhat more difficult, although still possible. But ultimately this is just an inherent side effect of any content creation, As for the feedback, well I shall speak for myself only - i just don't like patreons comment system at all. And I don't use discord much, so what I think would work for me particularly is a link to google form in the end of the build (I assume there is such functionality in renpy) where you can make polls, choice answers, free answers or whatever else. Well that's all I had to say, sorry for wall of text.

It’s already been said but I would definitely recommend using itch.io to prevent leaks. Some of the games there require you to be a patron of said Patreon in order to play the recent build behind the itch.io launcher

Johnny

Hey there away for you too link patreon too itch.io it becomes a patreon exclusive and no one will be able to share the link since you will need to show that your a patreon but there are still way people to leak the only people I know who found away to not have leak games is kemo Colosseum.

Everos

I'm so sorry to hear. I came across the game on itch.io and became patron shortly after. I've been loving the game, and taken a real liking to the characters. Unfortunately no matter how great a game you make you'll find some @$$hole somewhere mouthing off every nonsense supposed issue he can make up, just to be a toxic jerk. Most of the Patreon VN guys release their builds drop box links e-mailed to us, other than that I dunno what you could do sadly. Still I hope you're ok and figure things out :)

Ben Davis

I feel like using a googledoc or some other survey sites might be helpful for getting feedbacks.

Toasty

I have nothing but positivity for the story thus far. I’m really impressed with the Morphogenetic Field aspect akin with Zero Escape. And that gives so many opportunities for alternate paths. Really neat!

Taylor

Sorry to hear. I haven't gotten around to playing the new build all the way yet just because I've been streaming the game with friends but I'm looking forward to it! As for feedback, I do have one nit-pick, or maybe a suggestion: color coding for character names whenever they're speaking (like red for dean, blue for tyson ect.) It'd help add clarity and a bit of personalization to whoever's talking.

Burgbear

I have really liked everything from the game so far and I know I can't say that for everyone but I think the vast majority of your patreons (including me) is satisfied with the update. I think you need to keep in mind you can't please everyone. Regarding the lack of feedback the only thing I can say about it is that people are lazy. Even games with millions of players, generally only 1/12 of their players will leave reviews and even then part of those reviews will be from the really vocal toxic part of their fandom. If you want people to give you feedback, you can put up a voting pool here, on twitter or discord, asking if they liked the update or not and if possible leave a review. I'm pretty sure that more people will share their opnion of the game that way and if they don't, at least you have the voting pool. One last thing: when it comes to u18chan I don't really thing there is much you can do about it. People will continue to leak the updates and there's not really much you can do. Just know that a really vocal part of people that are on u18chan are self-centered pricks that just know how to complain. I hope everything I have said helps you.

Discord chat rules are confusing and kinda too strict to chat freely, at least in my opinion. I am not very fluent in English, so that's probably my misjudgement. Tho keeping patreon links in discord in the way you keep the guides can maybe help with illegal distribution of patreon build. Also, i can't give my feedback since i haven't had time to check all the paths I'm interested in. But i like what i see so far. What do people dislike in it?

SRS


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