NewJeans ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) (Redemption Reacts)

You’re obviously not reading properly and are clouded with your own thoughts repeating the same thing. Exactly, why would they risk all their brand deals and not address the issue at hand. Especially being linked FALSELY to a terrorist group. PLEASE go ahead and send these links to the company and tell them to make a proper statement so everyone can shut up. Simple. Because fighting individuals is not helping the situation, especially when you’re fighting the WRONG people who love the girls and wish nothing but better from what their company is providing.

Meliii

I said it was all based on coincidence not intention. We all know there’s a theme to time. My point was that if there is a false correlation being stretched and linked to something as serious as a terrorist group, a label NEEDS to make an official statement making it perfectly clear that it is simply a coincidence and nothing more to stop people being vicious especially to young teenage girls. That’s it. The fact that they haven’t even done that is concerning and irresponsible.

Meliii

I’ve said this already but you can’t read so I’ll spell it out for you, the victims you’re talking about have come out and said that they are offended that kpop stans are using their culture’s common names to connect them to terrorism, if spanish people were mad they would have created an even bigger uproar and the company would have apologised, do you know how many people were affected by eta? If they were genuinely mad, this situation wouldn’t have been brushed over by them, but they do not care because they know it’s a joke, they know what eta means because it’s used in train stations everywhere, are you going to tell train stations to apologize now? The only people they are mad at is kpop stans spreading lies about the group and supporting fascists/nazis so that they can show their disdain for the girls. Me clearing up lies is not me defending the company, it is literally impossible to avoid 22,000 names, but since your a saint you can go try!

Rini

Why would they risk all their brand deals they’ve amassed to link the girls to terrorism? Please explain. They endorse european brands they would have lost all of them immediately? I need yall to see the situation without your clouded judgement, if this basque historian clearing this whole thing as an coincidence doesn’t work, then I’ll know what you are. And genuinely lmk what correlation you still think there is because I’m happy to clear up the harmful lies being spread that directly endangers the lives of teenage girls https://twitter.com/shantuiworld/status/1673127097512886274?s=20

Rini

I have never said anything about Min Heejin or ador, I am telling you plain and simple that nothing they could’ve done would stop this issue from arising because it stemmed from literal lies on twitter that the victims your talking about debunked. These lies being spread immediately endangers the girls so I’m not sure how your saying it doesn’t affect them, there were hit tweets telling newjeans to disband, do you not realise how dangerous it is for newjeans to accuse them of terrorism? your putting their lives in danger because you have some sort of grudge against them. Your too biased to even see the facts, why would a group who endorses mcdonalds and a number of other brand deals risk all that because they want to ‘promote terrorism’, are you hearing yourself?, literally everything you says shows your judgement is clouded, I hope that you can be unbiased and see the situation clearly, In no way would they ever risk the girls careers for that connotation, it’s disgusting that you would even think that. It shows a lot what your true intentions are when you’re more offended than anyone who is actually basque.

Rini

They didn’t ‘choose to be cheeky’, they released the teaser early because they were planning to perform it at their fanmeet later that week as a gift, the following post after that confirming that it meant estimated time of arrival, was to let fans know that it was being performed day 1 and day 2, it was literally a notice for their fans. Their whole album from the start has been based on time, it was teased with the hashtag #timetonewjeans and they said you have to listen to the album in order, they have two time related songs, asap and eta, with the lyrics of asap being ‘just for a minute’, their whole promotion was based on time, how much clearer could they have been? And please explain to me what ‘correlation’ there was?, because everything has been debunked by basque people already.

Rini

No problem Love.. I try my best to be sensitive to everyone's feelings/pain.. I love and care about Newjeans so I don't blame them at all for any of this; shit I want the best for them. Every time I look up the CEO is doing dumb shit. Like you said a simply tweet or change in promotion would've cleared this right up. But I'll pray for the girls and continue to love and support them.. Thanks again Meliii

Redemption 46 Studios

Rini you are the one being the airhead here, your saying your not defending them company, when that's exactly tf your doing. Nobody is hating on NewJeans/Girls we're hating on the company/Adora. The same Adora whos been in multiple scandals, has a history of sexualizing minors & its completely problematic. So, giving the fact that Adora has this SUPER problematic background, is it really that hard for you to believe that she could've done this shit on purpose 💀 I 1000% gruantee you, Adora knew tf she was doing, but when ppl started calling her out, she started making excuses. You are not only being incredibly dismissive to the situation, but you're also being dismissive to the victims. Your defending Adora & NewJeans company as if you freaking owe them something, just admit they were in the wrong (again I'm not talking about NJ I'm talking about the company), and don't give me any of that "They probably didn't know" BS, because that's exactly why companies have PR teams and research teams, and marketing teams. They knew damn well ppl were going to have a problem with this whole situation. And you said Nick isn't taking anything your saying into account, when your literally doing the same shit, you have just chose to not listen to a single thing he said, so your being a hypocrite. And your choosing to not educate YOURSELF. Your so stuck on trying to defend a person (Adora) that will literally never give you the time of day, so why are you trying so hard, Adora is already well over problematic, it literally wouldn't be no surprise if she did this on purpose. You are the one who's extremely ignorant, this is the same chick who freaking produced and wrote Cookie knowing damn well that the indications behind the song were INAPPROPRIATE for a group of minors, so how about you come back to reality and sit down, NEXT.

REECE

Hey Nick, just wanted to say thank you for your careful approach. I 100% agree that the girls have absolutely nothing to do with the horrible publicity the promotion of this song has stirred. They are nothing but talented girls bringing out amazing music, but it’s saddening that the company and CEO are tarnishing the comeback excitement. Regardless if the names were coincidence (I surprisingly wouldn’t doubt that the company saw the correlation and chose to go along with it either way because any publicity is good publicity to them), this type of online drama is one that shouldn’t be ignored considering it being a serious allegation with historic trauma and the company should’ve squashed it with a formal statement clearing everything. The fact that they chose to be cheeky by tweeting out that ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival was not enough to clear out the names. They should’ve simply stated it as a coincidence, apologize to the people affected and apologized to the girls and move on. It’s incredibly irresponsible and infuriating. I truly hope the very best for these wonderful girls because Ador is a horrible company. I was happy when the CEO left SM but omg she keeps causing chaos. Thank you again Nick.

Meliii

Nothing i say could make you understand because there is nothing but air in that head, I am not defending the company, Im saying absolutely nothing their pr team could’ve done to stop those conclusions because kpop stans want to see them fail. No one from basque is mad about this issue, the ‘info’ you pulled up is from bitter kpop stans who were spreading misinfo and then deleted their accounts/posts immediately because they knew they were wrong. You’re taking nothing I say into account, you are choosing to ignore what the real people involved are saying, you are refusing to acc educate yourself. Im not being dismissive because there was no issue in the first place, eta is used in european train stations they know what it means you are undermining their intelligence by assuming they can only think of the group, when they’ve expressed multiple times that they are not ‘mad’, go ahead and keep on believing lies since you want to be ignorant, enjoy your night!!!!

Rini

Again... You keep saying were misinformed.... Were literally pulling up info during the reaction lol... We literally pulled up some of the same info you just dropped and more... Im not "mad" at anyone.. Maybe annoyed but that don't got nothing to do with Newjeans.. I said I respectfully disagree and you wanna keep going back and forth... Its victims online mad about these incidents/crimes being brought up and you're being dismissive about that... And Yes PR teams actually do their job.. You can continue to defend the company.. imma enjoy my night.. Enjoy the next Newjeans drop

Redemption 46 Studios

If you really cared what the real victims thought, you’d see that they are more offended and hurt by the fact that people are tying their culture’s common names to terrorism instead of letting them leave those horrible memories behind, they don’t want to be associated with eta forever and this whole controversy has shown exactly that.

Rini

Then talk to those people then, were you talking to real basque people or victims when you came to your conclusion before? The arrogance you have because you can’t even be bothered to read what they’ve said because it would show that you were misinformed, not one single connection made is valid, are you gonna tell Justin bieber’s pr team to do research on his song eta aswell? I’m so sorry your pride was hurt, really great that you’re so considerate for fascists though

Rini

What exactly could they have changed about the ‘promotion’, basque people immediately assumed that eta meant estimated time of arrival, i checked again and turns out there are more than 22,000 people injured, no amount of research could have prevented them using one of their names, basque people/names shouldn’t have to forever be associated with terrorism and violence, they have said that themselves that it’s offensive to tie their culture/names immediately to eta. They were filming in europe because that’s where they filmed for their debut, and they wanted to continue the story there. I’m saying you are misinformed because it’s clear you have not seen a single basque local’s opinion on this and have got your info from who knows, because you would see that any ‘sane person’ would not make those ties. Your mad at the company for ‘creating controversy’ when that said controversy stems from kpop stans creating their own narratives with no ground to see the downfall of newjeans, you siding with them is genuinely disgusting. If yall only saw the amount of horrific shit that gets said about them online

Rini

I'd rather talk to real people and the real victims.. Thanks for the links tho

Redemption 46 Studios

Here are some sources if you want to know what real basque people think on the issue https://twitter.com/shantuiworld/status/1673127097512886274?s=20 https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/14j2x5n/comment/jpq8480/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://twitter.com/newhyej/status/1674049774897487881?s=20 https://twitter.com/newhyej/status/1674056952886833155?s=20

Rini

You keep saying I’m misinformed and me you are reading the same information.. Neither of us live out there.. Are people reaching? Yes.. Should the CEO and company have been a little more sensitive/read the room? Yes.. Nothing you say to me is gonna make me change my mind about that.. So again, I respectfully disagree with some of what you’re saying.. Any sane person can read and do some research and see that a few changes with the promotion of this comeback would’ve resulted in no one having any lead way to say anything.. I’m a fan and I’m not offended so I don’t have a dog in this race. If even one person got offended kpop fan or not; me or you can tell them how to feel

Redemption 46 Studios

The people who started this were fan accounts on twitter who were in no way affected by Eta to any extent, there were three main threads on twitter at the start and they all deactivated their accounts because they knew they were spreading misinfo and didn’t want to get sued, idk what their intention was but it was not from an place of concern. Real people from basque who are not kpop fans and don’t even know newjeans commented on reddit and other sites on this situation saying that it is an innocent coincidence. Real spanish locals who were affected or knew people affected by eta were making quote tweets on the threads about this issue, joking and making memes about how far fetched and misinformed people were. Idk what you mean by “your company”. Again, do your own research and stop believing everything you see because clearly you are also very misinformed about this. How many locals have to come out and say that this whole controversy is a joke, or will you only believe petty kpop stans who have never been affected by eta whatsoever to determine what is right and wrong

Rini

Again… I agree with a nice portion of what you’re saying.. Innocent people died.. I stated that my example was extreme but I can’t tell people how to feel about death.. have your company do some research and be sensitive towards people affected by ETA… NewJeans is not at fault but damn can we just get a comeback with no controversy

Redemption 46 Studios

It sure does 🔥

humblegrind

I agree that they could have done research if it were an avoidable amount of names but were talking about 1000’s??! Any one who can think for themselves would immediately be able to see that it was a coincidence, I will never side with or defend people who jump to such conclusions, it has ruined people’s lives in the past and they endangered Newjeans. It’s their fault for making such dangerous accusations, to blame their company for this just shows that you are siding with these sheep and it’s sad that you are taking this stance

Rini

That example is horrendous and not comparable at all because Eta is widely used as an acronym for estimated time of arrival in Europe/globally, whereas Nazis are only known as Nazis. The group Eta actually targeted Nazis and fascist groups, innocent people would get caught in the middle but spanish locals were still apalled at how kpop stans were siding with the victims. I’m telling you even with research, atleast one regional name would have been connected to the group due to people reaching, Even if they didn’t use regional names they would have lined up the date 21st july to an eta event date, they would have connected the car driving in the teaser to eta somehow, like no matter WHAT people would have reached anyways. Were they supposed to avoid their 1st anniversary, avoid driving cars?, avoid all 1000+names involved?? With this logic what if the actors names were Mikel and Maria, are basque people not allowed to use basque names because someone involved in the Eta was connected to it?

Rini

Yeah I still wanna do the live performance

Redemption 46 Studios

Thank you 🙏🏽

Redemption 46 Studios

I respectfully disagree.. There are whole PR departments set up in any major business to see any bad publicity coming from a mile away. That’s like doing a track; the track being named after a Nazi unit and the actors in it being named ex Nazi names (mind you this example is extreme but you see what I’m getting at)… it’s music and it’s 2023… people always gonna reach.. try not to give them anything to reach about is all I’m saying… This group is talented and will be going far regardless.. Imma fan and hate seeing them attached to bullshit

Redemption 46 Studios

There’s nothing to avoid?, the names aren’t connected apart from mikel and maria which are extremely common names, there was no story to convey like kpop stans are saying. People had to research to connect those names to Eta, it’s not common knowledge at all. If their employing actors from a region they’re gonna have names from that region, no matter what names they used atleast one of them would still somehow be connected to eta because they had 800+ victims and 1000’s of names connected to them. How would they know that kpop stans would jump to the conclusion that teenage girls singing about love would somehow be assumed to be a terrorism concept, do you realise how insane of a jump that is?

Rini

I Hope y’all still do the live performance the actual studio songs doesn’t drop until the 21ST, but please still do the live performance Nwjs is such a goated group fr

Gladeez

This was performed at their fanmeet as an encore stage, the mv for it will be released on july 21. If you do want to watch the performance here are the fancams; https://youtu.be/B95aEyYQGJg https://youtu.be/jANDqeV-iqY

Rini

Yeah other bunnies showed us some things and we keep seeing her name pop up in things.. I just want these girls to be great..

Redemption 46 Studios

Yeah we peeped after we was doing it.. We saw the live and was like “well damn we should’ve did that” 😂

Redemption 46 Studios

I understand what you’re saying but personally some of this is playing with fire. Regardless of how common the name is to the area I would’ve never played with those names while the song is called ETA. Regardless of the intention haters will use it as fuel to come at the girls.. I believe they’re 1000% innocent in this situation but management needs to read the room. It sucks cause the song is a banger. I just don’t want no one coming at NewJeans from any angle with any bullshit. They’re super talented and should’ve have to worry about bullshit

Redemption 46 Studios

The song is unreleased, the audio is from their fanmeet

j_beigelman

It’s honestly scary to see how quick people are prepared to believe in such malicious and far fetched rumors, innocent idol’s lives have been ruined like soojin and garam due to incidents like these, and I hope people will think on their own and not follow the hive mentality so quick

Rini

If you look up min heejin controversy you’ll get a list of things. Mainly she’s obsessed with Lolita (the movie and scenarios alike), she’s posted and hung up a lot of images suggesting she’s inspired by that type of aesthetic. Plus she sexualized/was obsessed with taemin and jisung when they were minors

Jade

Yes! Sugarcoat sounds like it’s straight out of Step Up/ Honey!

For anyone who still beileves the rumours, Multiple people from basque the region where eta is from, have come out and said that the names are all common basque names, and that everything in this theory holds no ground. There are 1000’s of basque names involved with Eta, they could have used any common name and it somehow would have been connected to Eta, it doesn’t mean anything. There was one tweet that the Spanish locals found and they were laughing and making fun of kpop stans at how ridiculous this whole situation is. Mikel and Maria were a married couple but they lived in a completely diff time period to “eva”, there was no story to tell in the first place with those three names, they were never connected. People saying the date of their comeback coincided with an eta event when it’s quite literally their debut anniversary, July 21st. Their whole Ep is also based around time, Eta has only ever meant estimated time of arrival. People need to stop blindly believing everything they see, newjeans might be liked by the general public, but a lot of kpop stans hate them and will do anything to see them fall, please do your own research instead of jumping on hate trains/very dangerous rumors, that could affect the girls livelihood.

Rini

5 star CL

Mikele.

Thank you so much

Redemption 46 Studios

I personally don’t have a problem with brown lyrics cause I know younger audiences are growing up fast nowadays; plus the song a bop.. I just think their management went about this concept sooo wrong.. Like I personally wouldn’t play around with terrorist shit

Redemption 46 Studios

Thank you Jade… So like what does their CEO keep doing weird shit? These girls are super talent and mega stars; she’s low key hurting their brand

Redemption 46 Studios

Y'all should react to Kiss of Life's new debut. They released solo songs by themselves that contain a story and two MVs as a group altogether. All in this order: "Sugarcoat (Natty Solo)" https://youtu.be/NaIRQ5v0914 "Countdown (Belle Solo)" https://youtu.be/A-BQ__sYVlU "Kitty Cat (Julie Solo)" https://youtu.be/6AyJvoDtZwc "Play Love Games (Haneul Solo)" https://youtu.be/hrjYEAB5sWQ "Bye My Neverland" https://youtu.be/VOUPWUr9hSk "Shhh.." https://youtu.be/mIfpVrYIhvM

humblegrind

Yeah I saw that and I'm guessing she either knew and just went with it or something else. ETA have almost every different meaning in several countries so who knows for sure. The lyrics are a bit suggestive I would say.

humblegrind

I haven't seen any fans that have a problem with ETA as a song, this is probably being considered one of their best songs and is getting hype because of the relatable lyrics and fye choreo... nobody was looking into it that much lol. The controversy comes from their ceo min heejin. She's a known pedo and weirdooo, and in the teaser to ETA (the mv is unreleased), there are 3-4 RANDOM names at the bottom of the screen that are the criminals of the terrorist group. like it couldn't have been a coincidence...

Jade