S8E15: Gimme Dread Till I'm Dead

Love Adam too, he's hilarious

Sodaheiress

!! 💯

Sodaheiress

I have a vague recollection that he mentioned he hadn't read it. I'm not sure rhoughbut I feel he said it in the last year.

Dan Zilic

And yes indeed. All the young women where I work have read or are reading Secret History. They love it! (As did I.)

Patrick

It seems 'The Secret History' has become incredibly popular with Gen-Z, there was a book, 'Bunny' by Mona Awad, that came out a few years ago that seems to kinda rip it off.

Thomas Matich

Bangkok is a wild place! Visited for the first time back in November. I imagine you have more than enough stories for a good screenplay!

Thomas Matich

Excellent excellent 👌🏻….

PETER GREER

Is Todd still in the psych/rehab site?

GC

Was quite a clear message, I thought: “Doesn’t matter which side you’re on, war sucks for everyone.” I also didn’t think it was “about a girl who overcomes her fears to become a great photographer” . Her story arc wasn’t about become better, it was about desensitisation, not skill. Not bothered about whether he liked it or not, that’s up to him, but it felt like bad media literacy when he described it. Personally I didn’t find it a subtle message, I thought it was loud and clear!

Lanark

Thought the same thing- the ambiguity of politics in that movie is why I liked it so much.

Charlie C

A while back I heard Tim mention Bret in his podcast and said Bret or Todd asked Tim to go on…Tim said why doesn’t he come in my podcast since it’s actually relevant. It was kinda funny but made me think they may know one another

Austin

The take on Civil War “not picking a side” is wild. This from the guy complaining about “ideology trumping aesthetic” for years, now moaning there’s not enough ideology in a film.

Lanark

Enjoyed this podcast, more melancholy than depressed like the last couple months. Never watched ‘Nine 1/2 Weeks’ need to check it out. ‘Slave to Love’ is such a jam but not even the best from ‘Boys and Girls’ which is such a masterpiece.

Thomas Matich

Yea he simply says that they never dated, not that they never hooked. A savvy PR move

Happyhead

He doesn’t answer questions here

Ashley

Your personal preference is that the person who Bret chose to produce his podcast over 10 years ago shouldn’t speak during episodes where Brett has formatted it specifically to where he gets to speak, got it. We can agree to disagree but don’t project excitement or agitation on other commenters just because they counter your “preferences.”

R. M.

Chima

It's surprising to see varied perspectives on Adam, with some appreciating his appearance, but his simplistic remarks deter those seeking a deeper, intellectual exploration of certain themes. That’s just it.

Chima

And I agree to disagree. All good.

Jim Weaver

Ha. Calm down : ) I could care less whether you love Adam or hate him, I happen to enjoy stating my personal preferences. Relax.

Jim Weaver

I think Adam adds a lot . Disagree .

Richard Seabrook

You're stating your personal opinions and preferences as facts. Do you even know enough about Adam to know if he's interesting? Adam has been with Bret since the beginning as far as the podcast goes, and is the producer of the podcast, so whether you like it or not his point of view matters. It's part of the Q & A episode format that Adam interacts more than regular episodes. Adam was just joking with Bret about Tartt, the awards, how egregious. I'm sure Bret appreciates the fact that Adam jokes around and treats him like a regular person and isn't some enamored yes-man ass-kiss producer that throws softballs at him and stays obediently silent. "that’s what we’re paying our money for, to hear Bret." Seems like you don't understand how this whole thing works: Podcasters put out whatever they want, and if you like it, you subscribe, they don't answer to you because you subscribe and you don't get to have input on the format or content. Also, it's a very common practice for the producer to be part of podcasts on-mic, so get used to it, don't listen to the Q & A episodes, or unsubscribe.

R. M.

Again (see above). I completely disagree. Adam rules.

Patrick

Respectfully disagree. Adam rules. Maybe you’re new to the Pod but that’s always been their thing. Funny AF together. Also, the Tartt extended convo was the very best segment of the entire episode IMHO. I’m sorry you’re not getting it. Relax. It’s just a fucking podcast. 😂

Patrick

100%

George's wife Martha

Bret, you are so damn interesting and Adam you are so uninteresting that you tend to bring Bret and the show down, closer to your level. Dragging the Tartt conversation on forever when Bret answered it in about 30 seconds was ridiculous. As was what you did with all the award nonsense . Please pay attention to his answers and move on. Adam don’t take my “uninteresting” comment personally, I’m talking about in the context of the show, and that’s what we’re paying our money for, to hear Bret.

Jim Weaver

Could we also talk the "Cowboy Carter" album on one of these episodes?

Frank Formica

2 hour monologue on "Challengers" please. I loved it.

Frank Formica

Can Adam please take a step back and not forget that this Bret’s show. His remarks are neither insightful nor interesting and seem to disrupt Brets flow. I would prefer a full monologue than listening to even more of Adams shallow comments.

Chima

J-Law and Sydney Sweeney eased the pain some, but yeah it was otherwise a bit rough.

John Q. Thompson

Ok re the question about unlikeable guests - do any other early podheads remember when jason schwartzman requested to redo the entire taping of his episode, which bret revealed in a tirade about image obsessed actors in a later episode monologue?? water under the bridge, i guess

Lara

Adding these to the podcast wish list: Ellroy and Donna Tartt. Also, why hasn’t that Peaches episode been uploaded?

Brian James

yeah. and him always moaning about “cancel culture” and “offensive” jokes. like cmon man your humor is for the broadest public imaginable, the middle of the road kind of crap, you never said anything offensive and they used to not cancel people when you dated a 17 year old girl…

Oleg

Unrelated to the episode itself, a guest suggestion: Tim Dillon. He's a beast.

Chad Daniel Russell

Did your brain hurt after you saw them? Both “movies” look like visual toxic sludge 🦠

Ashley

Wow, Adam was feisty on this one! Loved it.

Rory Kiberd

Late Night With the Devil was the best horror movie since Hereditary and IMO the best movie of the year by a wide margin. The concept, art direction, pacing, execution, acting, all of it was fantastic and fresh yet classic. Every second of it was a joy. Ellroy went to shit after the Underworld Trilogy. Focusing on the gaysain character was a major mistake, and everything he wrote after Bloods a Rover just reeks of a man whose body of work could get him cancelled scrambling to cut it off at the pass by writing a tome about unrequited interracial homosexual longing. Perfidia is unreadably bad and monotonous.

BrienPiechos

I will shit all over Sugar since Bret won’t. At some point someone must’ve said, What if we updated the Long Goodbye but turn it into pure dogshit? And someone with a little money and power said, Great idea. It looks like Baez lurhman shit to me, the dialogue is mindnumbingly aimless, and somehow they managed to make Colin Farrel suck balls. Then 20 minutes of the episode of him with some vagrant WITHOUT a drug problem. The worst part is, my girlfriend didn’t think it was bad. We’re getting married next month. I mean couples don’t have to agree on everything, but should at least agree Sugar is ass.

Jeremy goodwin

Totally agree. Saw him in the 90s at a Fringe Festival. His archaic AV set up glitched and fused out. He didn't miss a beat, promised we would get our money's worth, and launched right into a two hour plus off the top of the head unfiltered stream of consciousness rant spanning the Black Dahlia back story through Kennedy and beyond that blew our fragile minds. He signed our book 'bite marks on your soul' with a devil flourish. Would be so good as a guest, accepting he would likely interrupt any prepared intro!

Thomas Edwards

Jerry Seinfeld is an arrogant, somewhat irrelevant and bland humorist/ass.

J Hay

I just saw Civil War. I was very impressed. I saw it at a 1-screen classic cinema (The Vista), owned by Tarantino, with NO ads, trailers, etc. Bret should have gone there! And I also liked “Late Night With the Devil”.

J Hay

I think Ellroy has seventeen Pulitzers. I haven’t checked tho.

David Willis

I Love any type of gay talk/gay for pay discussion. It's an inside to interesting world that I otherwise wouldn't know about.

Daniel M

Bret gonna miss out big time on not sticking with The Sympathizer. I loved the book. And the recent third ep was great. Show just heating up.

Alexander Quattlander

A lack of style, stakes, sensuality, starpower, sex appeal, sports movie appeal - it’s a simulacrum of what it purports to be and Luca can do (and has done) much much better. And Reznor’s score is brilliant on its own but reads totally discordant with the film

Moz

I had thought there were more innocent reasons for them not speaking .. her seemingly being a hermit. Guess not. I will need to re-listen to see if, as you say, Bret did not explicitly deny any hooking up. Despite Adam bringing up the gayness.

Keith campbell

Would love to hear ellroy on here, Total rockstar

Chris De Burgha

What's wrong w Challengers?

Florence

He's been kind of going in on BEE a bit in these post-Todd breakdown eps and BEE seems to love it

Happyhead

A bit, yes, but I learned that those two have not spoken in ten years (crazy), that they may indeed have hooked up (he simply said they were never BF and GF), that she was a bit of a home wrecker and that BEE harbors zero jealousy regarding her mainstream literary acceptance and loved The Goldfinch.

Happyhead

I bet Dante Colle would do it for the right price.

Keith campbell

I’m still heartbroken by learning J Law’s alleged full frontal was CGI

Keith campbell

Bret was a little cagey no ? “The narrator” or perhaps “the Bret Easton Ellis character” told Lili Anolik a bit more dirt than he lets on, I bet.

Keith campbell

It’s interesting how polarizing he is amongst the listenership. I think having straight bro comments punctuate all the gayness works well.

Keith campbell

The Magic Mountain is one of the best.

Thomas Edwards

The response to the screenwriter question had me laughing out loud

Danielle

"so youre not a 3rd wave ska guy?" 😭

Bill Xlinton

Adams commentary kills me

mia

Ha! Thar's so true!

Ben

it is funny that bret thinks that movie about civil war and its character becoming a bloodthirsty vulture at the end is “not political”.

Oleg

Will do! Thanks for the recommendation. I love Ellroy. Fantastic writer and quite the character.

Reno D.

It’s an endless stream of pure shit, everyone has to stop grading on a curve and acknowledge how bad it’s gotten. Like Challengers? Really? Motherfucking Saltburn? Stop trolling us

Moz

Go see La Chimera

Marcelo

Was thinking the same thing. Make it happen guys! His life is so interesting. Check out FEAST OF DEATH. Ellroy's story about telling off a little old lady in a video store over LA CONFIDENTIAL is ultimate savagery and hilarious. It's on you tube "James Ellroy Feast of Death" 00:34.

R. M.

Been waiting for the Donna Tartt gossip for years

Happyhead

I am a new subscriber, and I just wanted to say this is the best cultural podcast on the internet, synthesizing film, literature and culture in a way that no other venue does(or could). Bret is a genius. White and The Canyons were both brilliant! The only thing you guys are wrong on is Jaws2. The electrocution of the shark was a sublime ending and a plausible scenario. It met all of Longinus’s criteria for the sublime. Otherwise, the movie was much inferior to Jaws, except in one other certain way to which he alluded😉

Stephen Curry

These are the best episodes

Jen Gray

So happy we got a shards hbo update!

MB

Rourke was a major sex symbol in the UK, after '9 & half weeks'; his 'good looks' would be referred to in mainstream ads.

Steven Hamilton

Ellroy would be a great guest

Reno D.

Great questions this week. Good lord, the only thing grampa Ellis hasn’t aged out of at this point is twinks, prunes, and books… JK 💕 Adam cracking me up this week 😭 Bret, horror recommendation: THE EVIL WITHIN Andrew Getty (look up the Hollywood Reporter article about the making of it)

R. M.

9 1/2 weeks is good. Possibly my favorite erotic film. And it was actually shot in '83 or '84. I believe it didn't come out until '86 because the difficulty securing an R rated cut.

Richard Raymond

Has Bret ever discussed 2666 by Bolano?

maddie

Movies are incredibly bad these days. It's tough to get excited about crap.

Ben

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

richard owain roberts

Adam and the Donna Tartt talk. WOW! That was fun and yes, please have her on if she ever publishes another book. 🙏

Patrick

Adam is in rare form on this one.

N.M. Janice.

Felt like "Anyone But You" was an "algorithm movie." While not a Netflix movie, made by Sony I think, I saw it on Netflix. Racy dialogue (use of "cunt"), nudity or near nudity and multiple call backs through-out to a pop song. So basically the same exact formula of the Jennifer Lawrence rom-com "No Hard Feelings" also made by Sony and discovered via Netflix. While "algorithm movie" is not a new thing, it was right in my face here especially when you watch "No Hard Feelings" and "Anyone But You" in a short-time period as I did, basically a month within each other.

John Q. Thompson

The Teachers are Afraid of the Pupils

Moz

Adam is a fucking legend.

Matt

Thanks for answering my question. And, I liked the Bob Yari episode. I’ve been listening since PodcastOne, but I’ve always been curious about your take on the guests post show. The musicians are my least favorite, and I’m glad I was wrong about Matt Weiner—I thought you guys had great contrasting views. I learned a lot.

M. Nero Nava

Bangkok Chickboys: the movie. Coming right up 🫡

Dan Smith

Thanks guys xxx

Dan Smith