S7E14: Impressions and Interiors with Jordan Firstman
Added 2023-05-23 03:05:56 +0000 UTCWriter/Actor Jordan Firstman and Bret Easton Ellis discuss the lingering shame of a dramatic youth, being haunted by banana bread and the refreshing lavishness of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.
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Finally watched Rotting In The Sun. Enjoyed it.
Justin
2023-09-17 20:44:07 +0000 UTCMusic people and influencers are the worst guests IMO.
Francesco Nucci
2023-08-08 10:33:11 +0000 UTCI wish you guys were more open minded instead of putting your heads in the sand and saying no no no entertainment don’t ever change. Film was once a joke tv was once a joke. Hell podcasts were once a joke. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
Harold B
2023-06-19 23:33:16 +0000 UTCInteresting conversation. I enjoyed this episode.
Ben
2023-06-08 02:45:50 +0000 UTCI find myself in the middle of the views expressed here. This guy was interesting but also appalling.
Keith campbell
2023-06-06 13:18:00 +0000 UTCManhattan Murder Mystery
Virgin Marie
2023-06-05 18:47:50 +0000 UTCThis guy sucks. So boring yet so self important. What has he done some instagram videos? Snore
David Schur
2023-06-03 14:56:26 +0000 UTCI asked him about the details related to the show and bret almost didn't answer the question! lol (Adam said it was fault he didn't see it but I tend to think Bret didn't want to get in trouble talking about things he shouldn't even in the abstract--until I made a fuss about it.) Idk man I have a hard time believing Tarantino was going to do the shards even though he said on the podcast that he's a big fan of the book. He strikes me as one of those directors who still looks down on tv as an inferior storytelling medium. Has he even done tv before??
Harold B
2023-06-02 14:25:31 +0000 UTCWell, I think Bret tends to prefer "literary" novels just like he prefers "auteur" films. But literary novels don't do well anymore, especially among millennials who greatly prefer "genre fiction." Also, novelists aren't the rockstars they used to be, today the publishing scene strikes me as more business centric, where the most famous writers are heralded for their business acumen running their respective book empires rather than their "literary talent."
Harold B
2023-06-02 14:19:15 +0000 UTCWouldn't not? English, do you speak it, motherfucker?
Stephen
2023-06-02 04:45:40 +0000 UTCI wondered that but doubt it. QTs heart is in the 70s and also HBO wouldn’t not pay him his going rate.
Paul Richardson
2023-06-01 09:36:42 +0000 UTCHe’s not going to say. He has couth.
Nikki Ferrari
2023-05-31 17:26:02 +0000 UTCThis conversation was organic, easy, entertaining, raw. Loved it.
Nikki Ferrari
2023-05-31 17:25:24 +0000 UTCCan someone who’s part of the platinum posse just flat out ask Bret if Tarantino was the director who pulled out of The Shards? Just a yes or no answer?
Iain
2023-05-30 07:02:37 +0000 UTCChrist these guests have been mediocre. I'd rather listen to Bret and Adam bullshit about whatever.
Stephen
2023-05-30 05:58:29 +0000 UTCmost people don't know what Citizen Kane is, period...the 20th century was the DECLINE OF WESTERN CULTURE...get used to it.
Neil G.
2023-05-28 22:44:16 +0000 UTCyou can't take it too literally. As a general trend, people don't read as much as they used to, but there are plenty of great novels being written albeit in the derided "genre" category. Remember, no one thinks of art in any formal way beyond the 19th century, since modernism is where formalism left off...and that's a general fact of the last 100 years. So don't take everything Bret says TOO literally 😂😂
Neil G.
2023-05-28 22:43:21 +0000 UTCSchrader is a pseudo intellectual POS and that's a fact so whoever Jordan Firstman is, he is objectively better than that nonsense...
Neil G.
2023-05-28 22:41:37 +0000 UTCOk, Tim Dillon has book coming later this year, “Death by Boomers…” — we need him on the BEE podcast. It’s time.
Thomas Matich
2023-05-28 03:03:32 +0000 UTCYup, I see a huge difference between elder millennials and those born in the 90s, they might as well be two different generations. I have a bunch of friends both ages. I’m on the tail end of gen x myself so fall into the xennial bracket too. The same could be said for elder gen Xers and those of us born in the mid to late 70s. Two different versions of Gen x. So anyway, a lot of these recent 90s baby guests, I’ve noticed, have this chip on their shoulder and seem very whiny :) to be fair, I’m not saying all. I have many friends that age that aren’t. Maybe it’s a Hollywood thing lol
Phoenix
2023-05-27 15:22:36 +0000 UTCim an older millennial--born in late 1985--and i recently typed up a list of all the books i've read going back to when i was 8-9 and starting elementary school. i came up with just over 1000 titles and im sure im forgetting some. if you love books, you read books. regardless of age or genertation
Collin Myers
2023-05-27 14:39:12 +0000 UTCAnnie Hall Match Point The Purple Rose of Cairo
Collin Myers
2023-05-27 14:37:02 +0000 UTCProbably the worst guest to date. Mediocre at his best and completely self-absorbed.
Paulo Lorca
2023-05-27 13:51:53 +0000 UTCDeconstructing Harry Stardust Memories Sleeper
Brian Rooney
2023-05-27 09:23:21 +0000 UTCTrue. Leone and Kirchick are 80s babies, like me. When I say younger Millennials I mean in general anyone Bret considers born after the Gen X bracket. I've yet to hear him acknowledge the distinction between X-ennials like Adam and true Millennials like Todd. I'm about Adam's age, and our teen years in the mid - late 90s were still fairly analogue. Also, his name escaped me before, but Lance Oppenheim is Bret's youngest guest. He made that documentary about The Villages. Now there is a guest on the cusp of Gen Z who I thought was really interesting.
Billy Schafer
2023-05-26 23:46:37 +0000 UTClike, millennials, mediocrity is, like lionized, literally
Mike
2023-05-26 23:12:59 +0000 UTCAgreed! Will check out the Maron episode
Roscoe
2023-05-26 20:31:17 +0000 UTCThose aren’t younger Millennials. I’m talking those born in the 90s, I’ve just noticed a theme to those particular guests. Maybe it’s just me, idk
Phoenix
2023-05-26 18:20:53 +0000 UTChonestly the question about whether millennials have read books is kind of silly. This age group had Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Twilight, Divergent, Lemony Snicket and that's just the tentpole stuff that sold in massive quantities. Also, 2021 and 2022 saw more print books sold than in any year since the new millennium began, with YA fiction being a huge percentage of that and adult fiction being a huge percentage. Let's not forget that David Foster Wallace and Jonathan Franzen both had days jobs all throughout the supposedly glorious nineties, and for DFW until his passing. I remember Jay McInerney said on his episode that he just wanted a teaching job and to be able to publish while he was coming up. Bret knows tons of stuff I don't about the publishing world, but I also think the massive wave he rode on Less Than Zero's success is messing with his perceptions a little
Alex Waller
2023-05-26 16:43:46 +0000 UTCNice to heat Bret gay it up from time to time
Happyhead
2023-05-26 14:50:53 +0000 UTCWhy is learning songs from a musical and playing them on piano shameful? Why does someone start a conversation with an apology for their age? I’m sure I have 74 other questions about human beings.
Kristeen
2023-05-26 14:15:03 +0000 UTCI don't mind younger Millennial aged guests. I thought the late Ryan Leone had a compelling story about finding his voice as a writer while struggling with addiction. James Kirchick is another one, and I found his research about "closeted" D.C. politicos fascinating. Jordan Firstman just seems shallow and dull.
Billy Schafer
2023-05-26 10:47:15 +0000 UTCGreat
Michael Anthony Rainey
2023-05-26 10:44:45 +0000 UTCI listened to the entire Jerry Stahl episode despite all of his Trump derangement ranting because he's an old pro TV writer with a fascinating background. This Jordan Firstman guy was just insufferably boring. He's done nothing I find even remotely interesting.
Billy Schafer
2023-05-26 10:26:05 +0000 UTCCrimes and Misdemeanours Hannah and Her Sisters Husbands and Wives Manhattan
Matt
2023-05-26 06:43:03 +0000 UTCHe was just on Maron. Maron not being as dialed in on writing and film as Bret, asked just basic open ended questions and pulled some great new Schrader insights and anecdotes. Guy is truly a genius - they just don’t have filmmakers or many artists in general on his level anymore
Vin Bravo
2023-05-26 00:37:18 +0000 UTCmaybe should have recorded dinner with schrader instead ? not hating on the man - just completely disinterested in everything they talk about. good questions by Bret but couldn’t finish. respectfully: the guest game has been mediocre at best this season. Always prefer Bret solo.
Roscoe
2023-05-25 20:08:34 +0000 UTCBut I do think the trend of booktok is interesting in the way it’s brought books like American psycho, secret history, etc into mainstream audiences who if they were reading at all, wouldn’t even be books like that. I guess I think the cultural pressure to follow book trends now is interesting in the ways it makes people read things they might not have.
OSOS
2023-05-25 18:43:44 +0000 UTCYeah, I mean even if it’s dumb booktok romance books, I just think it’s a good thing people are reading at all, supporting book stores etc
OSOS
2023-05-25 18:37:56 +0000 UTCYeah i just think a lot of Gen Z tends to hyperaestheticize books with little substance and read moreso to prop up a persona/aesthetic than to read. But at least they’re reading at all
sasha
2023-05-25 18:37:12 +0000 UTCI enjoyed the episode, he was entertaining. Although the outlook that people have a vendetta against him seems a recurring theme with young millennial guests. But I’m curious to see his movies, Rotting in the Sun sounds interesting and fun. Can I make some requests for writers? Delicious Tacos, Kelly Oxford, Alicia Erian, Chandler Morrison
Phoenix
2023-05-25 17:15:29 +0000 UTC"French Onion Soup"
Alex Bielovich
2023-05-25 14:36:35 +0000 UTCI actually think Gen Z & Gen X are actually the two generations who still seem to read in large quantities. With the rise of tiktok and social media posting, it has made reading a cool and shareable thing amongst Gen Z, as stupid as that is, it’s almost always people of this demographic you see in bookstores nowadays.
OSOS
2023-05-25 14:01:39 +0000 UTCJordan, if you’re reading this, I also wanted deep sea creatures in avatar 2 like wtf they swam in a baby pool for most of the movie
Joe Paluck
2023-05-25 13:40:09 +0000 UTCTook me a while to warm to this guy. “Write what you know, girl” made me chuckle. He obviously hasn’t seen Cameron’s The Abyss.
Paul Richardson
2023-05-25 12:12:17 +0000 UTCI'm not a Maga bro, I'm not even American. I suspect the MAGA bros are really cool with porn at least the hetero variant. I hated it as I do whenever Bret interviews an actor. Any actor, male or female. Gay or straight. Bags of hot air. As interesting as ventriloquist's dolls
Jorge Espinha
2023-05-25 11:51:53 +0000 UTCAmen Janice!
Jorge Espinha
2023-05-25 11:48:09 +0000 UTC😆
Jorge Espinha
2023-05-25 11:47:31 +0000 UTCLOVED this episode. The goofy MAGA Bret bros will hate it, of course.
John
2023-05-25 07:50:59 +0000 UTCReally disliked this episode, hardly ever feel that way but this was just god awful.
Ashley
2023-05-25 01:24:14 +0000 UTCI enjoyed this chat. 👍
Patrick
2023-05-24 22:43:03 +0000 UTCUgh. All time worst episode.
Steve
2023-05-24 22:25:18 +0000 UTC“He became famous without ever having to leave the house, a millennial win-win” lol
Vin Bravo
2023-05-24 21:21:50 +0000 UTCHell yeah!
N.M. Janice.
2023-05-24 21:16:53 +0000 UTCBruce LaBruce would be a great guest.
Stuart Chivers
2023-05-24 21:07:54 +0000 UTCExcellent interview. I’ve always liked Bret A.) because of his great artistry but also because rebellious, counterculture gay men have such an interesting perspective on everything (and are usually very witty). Jordan is definitely of this ilk. Mainstream gay guys in this culture who play all the games to stay in good graces are largely insufferable.
Jon A.
2023-05-24 20:42:59 +0000 UTCI hardly ever bail on an episode, but I couldn’t finish this one. I am a 34 year old millennial myself, but I guess I have an older sensibility. Instagram and porn really aren’t that interesting to me. More writers, directors and musicians and less internet celebrities please.
N.M. Janice.
2023-05-24 19:41:48 +0000 UTCLet’s be honest, it’s primarily a walk.
Dustin
2023-05-24 18:06:13 +0000 UTCJees talk about a self absorbed bleak guest
Chris De Burgha
2023-05-24 17:58:44 +0000 UTCThat’s unfortunately most people now.
Jonathan Davis
2023-05-24 16:41:29 +0000 UTCam going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.
richard owain roberts
2023-05-24 16:29:43 +0000 UTCI don’t like interviews with actors. The chat about cornholing isn’t inspiring. I don’t think porn is a great subject. I’m also not as open minded as I like to think. I leave it at the 40 min mark
Jorge Espinha
2023-05-24 13:05:24 +0000 UTChe looks just like Todd...interesting
Neil G.
2023-05-24 06:30:34 +0000 UTC30 year olds who have never read a book and don’t know what Citizen Kane is. Sounds like Bret has some wack ass friends.
N.M. Janice.
2023-05-23 20:12:43 +0000 UTCGood episode but feel like Bret worked overtime to try and get more out of the guy to no avail.
Bookth
2023-05-23 19:52:24 +0000 UTCGreat episode. I love when I think I have no idea who a guest is and then it turns out I totally do.
Christy A
2023-05-23 15:46:54 +0000 UTCExcellent episode
PETER GREER
2023-05-23 08:56:09 +0000 UTCI'm so behind on these episodes!
bpvalentine
2023-05-23 04:13:59 +0000 UTC
