September Dev Blog
Added 2024-09-21 15:06:27 +0000 UTCI was going to write a more personal blog on how our summer has been with SR7 and myself. But it became a long drawn out post that just really conveyed zero information. Basically summer went by way too fast, the leaves are changing, and the air has that winter bite in it already. Canada is a beautiful place, but it is also a harsh environment for 6 months of the year. But now on to important matters.
Prior to the last release SR7 said to me "this is probably the most ambitious build we have ever done". Now the progress for this build was stellar. Heading into July we were weeks ahead, and even up to the 17th of Aug we still had a massive time advantage. That evaporated due to Unity being so difficult sometimes. But even with all the difficulties this last build was the best received in the last 7 years. So we really need to understand why? So moving forward we are going to really investigate and find the core reason/s that you all enjoyed this update so much.
Lastly the plan for the next build is the Halloween event stand alone clean up, then jumping into BoB2 production. There will still be ample SU coming as well, and we will monitor all of you're expectations, and restlessness as we move forward with regards to SU.
But again please comment below what was it about this last build did you enjoy the most?
Comments
BoB 2 <3
juan
2024-10-29 20:15:24 +0000 UTCTotally agree. It would be great to have the remaining exhibition rooms :)
Joe Bloe
2024-10-18 23:00:17 +0000 UTCi hope that there will be more pairs since we have seen the others and maybe some more people on the yacht
Mikkel frost møller
2024-10-17 12:23:17 +0000 UTCI think they honestly don't care to much about how the story started at this point, it is more focused on adding good scenes/content. I get where you're coming from but you couldn't do any of the high society event without blowing up the story in the ways you stated.
Jackson Long
2024-10-10 16:41:10 +0000 UTCI really like all the new added things but could you also fix the scenes database in the tower? It doesn't have every character, scenes often are locked even if you have them, and it gives no type of hint on how to even get them or where to go. Feel like I am missing out on so many parts of the game because I can't fill out the database. Other than that I think adding an exhibition for all caught heroines would be cool plus giving cat women content finally.
Jackson Long
2024-10-10 16:37:45 +0000 UTCI agree. While the new events are absolutely great and enjoyable, the bordello is what the game started with in the first place, and it would be quite unfortunate if this game kept going forward and expanding without the missing content (private room, exhibition) being completed. Just a thought :)
Joe Bloe
2024-09-27 10:36:14 +0000 UTCThe Penguin's henchwomen were a great surprise for me and I hope we get to see more of them in the future. The scene behind a pillar with barbara was also a nice type of scene, one which used to be more present in past builds (more spontaneous rather than the usual formula of dance/HJ/BJ/Sex/Anal). Just to point out one thing I did not like as much was the similarity of some of the Penthouse scenes in this update. I am aware of the resource and time requirements so I am not trying to blame nobody. It is just that the previous penthouse scenes like Harley, Punchline, Killerfrost or Catwoman were more varied and I missed that this time. Eager to see what you guys cook for the Halloween update!
Dutch EDM
2024-09-26 10:01:01 +0000 UTCPlease add more of the already existing characters to the private rooms in the Bordello. You're making new event content when the already existing content still needs fleshed out.
Logan
2024-09-25 13:19:16 +0000 UTCI think the event is very popular because Gotham/Batman is popular, and it has female characters that most people wanted in the game. My assessment of the event: - Great gameplay: We just need to advance with the characters we want to see their scenes and we can start over to see the scenes of the other characters; - Good scenes: Very good scenes, but I respect people's complaints about the change in the size of the characters' breasts; - Simple story: Little story was presented, but it develops in a pleasant way; - Characters that no one expected: Bruce and Gordon's participation surprised me. My doubts about the event or problems I encountered: - Barbara doesn't seem to remember that she was at the villains' event, was her memory erased? I thought there would be lines from them commenting on the previous night; - If Barbara is being controlled by the Device in this High Society Event, how will Barbara react when she wakes up? The concept was that the female heroines were being controlled while they slept, but the event happens before everyone's eyes. My hypothesis is that Lex can alter the heroines' memories, so the awakened Barbara would go to the event with Lex because of the LexCorp award (during the event it is said that Lex created a fake gymnastics award sponsored by LexCorp and that Barbara won), but during the journey Lex activates the device, the Barbara we know wakes up and at the end of the night, Lex alters Barbara's memories to make her believe that nothing happened during the event. - Could the event end with Batman's defeat? Lex introduces Talia al Ghul as his wife to Bruce Wayne, I thought that was really cool and I hope there will be more dialogue about it. However, it also raised a doubt in my mind regarding how the event ends, since doing this makes Batman distrust Lex and pay attention to him.
Lucas Mascena
2024-09-25 11:50:28 +0000 UTCI would like to see more costumes for the characters already in the game and more summonings
Username678
2024-09-25 03:51:41 +0000 UTCI know this is corny, but can we get some kissing or something more to show the heroines fall to Luthor?
Cheesed
2024-09-24 18:34:48 +0000 UTCI really do appreciate your input, I want to make that clear. We will be announcing a town hall in the coming days, and you will be free to come and express your ideas there. Keep a look out for the post and times.
Gunsmoke Games
2024-09-24 16:05:10 +0000 UTCThis just comes off as making excuses, especially as someone following many different visual novels of teams going down to as little as 2 people. They are willing to delay if it ups the quality. This project already has a history of recycling scenes to meet overly ambitious deadlines (Themascura leash scenes). A large character roster is nice, but it's starting to really compromise variety in other facets we didn't see early game. A strong release of 3 girls is better than an okay release of a dozen.
trollmahn
2024-09-24 08:38:34 +0000 UTCIs there any update on BoB2?
Twilight_King
2024-09-24 02:40:49 +0000 UTCOk, apologies. I don’t always keep up to date with stuff because I get so many emails in general. I’ll try and do better to keep up to date.
PsychoSinMafia
2024-09-24 00:38:10 +0000 UTCI do understand that much when it comes to most of the process between updates and that’s been really what I felt I didn’t like with the update and more recent updates surrounding events where it seems like there is self imposed limits that lead to compromises to meet time limits. It’s why I’m hoping as well that things will be better whenever AI starts to be implemented as maybe then we’ll be able to get scenes that require a bit more time and work to complete. My primary issue with the orgy scene was that it seemed like an excellent idea, but if you set up a scene you can’t really do justice for, then it’s better to just ditch the idea rather than say it’s an orgy over a regular scene. I’m not saying we should be redoing everything in the game, but especially for events now, I think it’s better to spend an update setting it up with something like only foreplay then fill in the more end event scenes for later updates. I don’t think following that sort of approach to game development necessarily breaks the DNA of SU, but at the same time, the DNA of the game started as starting a network of pimping out heroines to generate profit. Something that the development hasn’t focused on for a while now. Not saying something like just focusing on bordello/club content, but even an event like Gotham Nights where that’s an easy correlation to use heroines for profit, it’s still just focused on Lex. It’s usually difficult to convey an issue like this when we’re talking in multiple points at once but I’d love to dm or do a call or something to get a more detailed explanation to some of the games more recent issues but I do think that there’s a bit of a disconnect in understanding why these issues can’t be resolved.
Bioterrorist
2024-09-23 23:53:13 +0000 UTCAdding variety to some scenes can up the content creation time significantly as backgrounds must be made to take the change of view into account. This can significantly increase the creation time, and result in other content being incomplete or not addressed.
Gunsmoke Games
2024-09-23 23:28:09 +0000 UTCWe've addressed this multiple times in our town halls. Legacy content will get addressed once we tie up more loose ends.
Gunsmoke Games
2024-09-23 23:25:46 +0000 UTCOk I will break down what changed with the cells First off the cells have a very static backgrounds, and they are reused and cropped all over the place. There is massive time savings throughout this process. Additionally Cell content took 3 years to complete fully. This high society update took 2 months. We're not even touching the dialogue differences between the two places. This last update added in a ton of new characters all with fleshed out narratives. It is our most successful update in 7 years, our metrics just prove the point day in and day out. Comparing the cell content completion rate to this is a fair take if you look at the cell completion rate in it's entirety, and not picking a few good builds. That is why we're asking why this build stood out to so many? What thing did people enjoy the most, and how can we add that part to any future game/update. As for the orgy scene. Just to sketch an image of that size, and do multiple with backgrounds with characters in it, would take a long time. A two person image already ups the time requirements significant vs a single person. That is a massive undertaking that doesn't fit into our current direction. We have finite time resources, and have a promise to deliver on those timelines. In order to do certain things we need to make choices that reflect those resources. These decisions must take into account the DNA of SU, and our fans expectations on the content quality and quantity. If we choose to spend more time on a scene than is allotted we can compromise the entirety of the cycle. So we carefully manage that by choosing options that align with our abilities. I know what you would prefer, your reasoning for us not doing so because of incompetence and laziness is off putting. But you asking for us to break the DNA of SU is something we're unwilling to do at this point. We have BoB2 coming where we are taking a quality over quantity approach. But for SU there is 9 years of standards we are upholding. To change that would require us to go back and change the rest of the game as well. Thanks for your input.
Gunsmoke Games
2024-09-23 23:24:51 +0000 UTCI know this usually sounds like a selfish take but I’d prefer 3 fully “different” scenes rather than 6 scenes that are more or less the same. I’m sure you’re aware that some people are thinking it but I think it’s better to have a reduced number of characters getting scenes and have more time spent on them rather than trying to implement so many in one update and having to take steps to minimize time spent on scene production to meet the schedule.
Bioterrorist
2024-09-23 19:58:18 +0000 UTCI think expanding on some of the core gameplay would be nice. Adding a few more heroines and filling in the gaps of missing scenes would also be neat.
Yami Bakura
2024-09-23 19:54:09 +0000 UTCOk. So let’s look at it like this. My concern is if it’s taking that much work for diversity in scenes, then essentially the game has one of three things that have to give. Either time, quality, or quantity. Obviously we don’t want updates to take a year but I could have sworn that earlier on for cell content, that 3 characters could have almost an entire cell content in one update at times. So I’m not sure what’s changed that makes the development time for a new scene as long as you say it is now. Obviously there’s time spent for new sprites (or stills?) of characters so I was expecting that the reasoning could be that, however my issue is that once a scene is done, it’s done and there’s no going back and changing it. If a character’s scenes are bad then it’s going to stay that way. As for backgrounds, i do understand that that’s something you the developer are going to care about more than the players (it’s just the nature of game development) but then again, I’m not entirely sure why the turn around time for scenes would be longer than it was several years ago when characters also had multiple costumes for scenes. I’m not trying to speak from ignorance but I genuinely would like to know why it’s a problem now vs back then. I can only speak as a player and regardless of reasoning, it will always feel wrong to see stuff reused in this way. Also I’d like to hear what your thoughts are on the other two issues I brought up. I’m going to assume the “orgy” scenes have the same explanation of it just being more work so my follow up would then be what’s changed for the game’s development to make these type of scenes seem like they’ve been trashed concept. If it’s because of the new implementation of new characters and settings then wouldn’t it make more sense to just add them in in future updates rather than try to “compromise” for lack of a better word on set up scenes?
Bioterrorist
2024-09-23 19:29:05 +0000 UTCYou mention that we're incompetent, lazy, or haven't trained AI? Yet you have not once mentioned the amount of time increase needed to justify the changes you want to put in. If every anal scene was a "different" position, you're talking 6x the work. You need to sketch every position to find a "new" one, this is daunting for a project this size with timelines that need to be met. The other part of making a new position is the need for alternative backgrounds. Do me a favour and look in 6 different directions, and realize that each one of those new directions would require 6 new backgrounds to be created. So lets just do some new math on your request that we're so very lazy and incompetent to understand. 6 new sketches, 6 new backgrounds, 6 new finishing (lining and colouring) and that is for just one position. Now you can't do that for just one position you need that for every scene in the update. Your "simple" request just added 600% more work to one scene. That request just added 600% more work for the entire update that took 2 full months to make. Your request would take a year to complete just for this update. You can't have the breadth of characters, and have all new scenes, with new positions, with new angles, every 2 months. There are trade offs that have to be made. You're feedback isn't ignored, it's just not in the scope of what SU is. **There is no AI being used yet, we will let you know when and where it was used
Gunsmoke Games
2024-09-23 18:42:53 +0000 UTCI mentioned it in the Discord but I was really disappointed with how the event would play out. While I think gameplay wise it was really well done, the scenes themselves were some of the worst I’ve seen. Not quality wise but in what the devs decided to put out for scenes. Talia getting much bigger boobs for her scenes especially the private booth scene was really a poor choice. We all like big boob characters but if a character doesn’t have that big of a chest size, she shouldn’t be getting a boost just to fit a scene. The biggest letdown for me was the “orgy” scenes. Despite a 10/10 setup, the scenes fall flat and are some of the most upsetting scenes I’ve seen chosen by a developer. Despite being an orgy, there is no group sex at all for the chosen girl or even any scenes featuring the other girls involved. Just more one on one scenes. And every new anal scene this update features the same exact position for each girl which is starts to raise suspicion that you’re either being lazy, haven’t trained the ai to properly diversify scenes, or it’s just flat incompetence. Even if it was my favorite position, no update should include 6 scenes that are all the same angle and position. What probably angers me the most is I don’t think whoever reads this type of feedback seems to understand what I’m saying as the past few answers to my issues is “well add it in later”. This doesn’t seem like content that’s going to get expanded on for each character. I think feedback is largely being ignored at this point.
Bioterrorist
2024-09-23 01:25:43 +0000 UTCI’d be interested in trying to revisit some things that have been left untouched. I mean Morgana was teased during the yacht event how many years ago and there hasn’t been anything since, yet now we have 2 Harley Quinn’s in the story.
PsychoSinMafia
2024-09-22 19:40:51 +0000 UTCOh yeah definitely. No complaints about the thick girls.
Nomad 3212
2024-09-22 11:31:13 +0000 UTCI agree on proportions, but definitrly let the thick girls be thick -more so for some :P
Abraxes
2024-09-22 11:29:34 +0000 UTCThe Barbara content in the high society event was some of your best. More content like the Gordon scenes. Also please go back to the older body proportions. Too many of the girls look the same. I know it saves time and allows you to put out more content, but characters like Babs and Artemis are more on the lithe gymnast style body and it feels strange seeing them with the big thick ass.
Nomad 3212
2024-09-22 10:11:08 +0000 UTCIt would be nice to have more variety on anal scenes. To many are face only. The full nelson one was the best so far of any update. Some from the front are fine, but seems 3/4 of anal shows no penetration. The vag scenes are almost always great. Penguin scenes were amazing. Getting a bug where Nubia isn't getting the anal in the action menu, but can be seen in gallery.
trollmahn
2024-09-22 09:10:26 +0000 UTCWhen is the Android Gotham event update is?
Blueriderofneptune
2024-09-22 01:26:59 +0000 UTCLiked it was more than just villains and super females
Alex Shaw
2024-09-22 01:01:27 +0000 UTCReally love to see more costumes and position/event for current roster.
BlackGriffin
2024-09-22 00:09:36 +0000 UTCDue to the size of this update, the Gotham Ren'py version is being pushed to November. That's because we have Halloween coming in Oct
Gunsmoke Games
2024-09-21 23:30:54 +0000 UTCI would like to have some more heroines with big tits and ass
GoHawks1840
2024-09-21 23:06:45 +0000 UTCWish there was a better explanation as to why the posts seem to really slow down
JuriDojo
2024-09-21 22:15:04 +0000 UTCI just really enjoyed some actual interaction with Bats and PC Gordon. Would love to see some more heros, especially them being teased about something being weird with the heroines. Its such a cool payoff after establishing the whole sex work evil empire...
cicerosensei
2024-09-21 20:03:19 +0000 UTCfor one the scale of this last update with the high society being a largerly complete event not sure if you plan on ading anything else to it but the large number of charcters and the way the interacted were at lot of fun the orgy ending was not something i was exspecting but added a new twist you could take form the standard route all of it came togeter to make a very memorable experience rather then it just being some new girls added or having their scenes finished don't get me wrong i like all the girls and get that you can't add every thing at once but this update really benfited form a so full it felt like their wasn't anything missing or if their was i wasn't big enough to matter
sebastiaan
2024-09-21 19:43:34 +0000 UTCWhen is ren'py version
Ninja-Ninja
2024-09-21 18:22:31 +0000 UTCAgreed. New events are nice, but time to get back to build upon Metropolis content. Would be nice to finally have Catwoman content in the bordello as well as filling in any ladies with content missing.
trollmahn
2024-09-21 15:26:28 +0000 UTCThe new scenes with the familiar girls and new roster of girls during the event I think we need to really fill out the bordello and also add more outfits across the board
Chris
2024-09-21 15:16:39 +0000 UTCI loved seeing Lex be Lex with the various characters. It really showed him off as a character more than the prop that does the sex
Brandon Evans
2024-09-21 15:14:59 +0000 UTCThe scenes and assets I think were all incredible. There was a lot of variety in the poses and interactions for each girl. There were the extra interactions with characters like commissioner Gordon for Barbara that added a bit more than just the standard dance, bj, and sex scenes so it didn’t seem repetitive. And it used a lot of lesser known characters in a way that didn’t feel forced
IHateMyself
2024-09-21 15:12:38 +0000 UTCThe dialogue between the lex and everybody else
Nox-Skywalker
2024-09-21 15:10:11 +0000 UTCTell me why the second that I get a notification for this post I came across a justice league real on Facebook
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