The Psychology of Elon Musk - (Chapter 6) - Complete Failure
Added 2024-09-20 11:00:07 +0000 UTCDr Kirk Honda and Humberto explore hypotheses regarding the psychology of Elon Musk.
00:00 2008 Recession
05:21 Elon & Justine's relationship & divorce
32:33 Justine's TED Talk
41:56 Tesla & SpaceX's success
47:28 The importance of being a founder
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September 20, 2024
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Another way to think about Justine’s perspective is that it’s very common for people to try to find reason in their choices. This could have been her conclusion after several years of reflection on what she saw or didn’t see that led to her relationship, what red flags she missed, etc. Almost forgiveness of herself and a way to live with it since she was going to have to co-parent. I know that a lot of people forgive geniuses for their actions because of the good they have done, but usually those are people who can only hold a black and white perspective of things. I think the issue is more nuanced, much like the question of can we separate the artist from the art in the case of people like Bill Cosby. It isn’t a forgiveness of what they have done wrong, but a bigger picture question of what does this mean and how does it fit in to the bigger narrative. I know that being a female in the tech industry can still be difficult, and that can also factor into the larger conversation.
Talia
2024-10-06 17:50:28 +0000 UTCFor the Justine Ted Talk, I also don't agree with her intent, but I understand it. She is the ex wife of a man who at the time was really popular, and who is praised by tech bros who we now see as some of the most toxic people out there. I'm sure she was already receiving hate messaging from his fan base even at this time. She's kinda put into a difficult situation, if she is critical, she's just going to be seen as the anger ex wife. And Humberto suggested humanizing him more, which I agree would be an improvement, but I think she fell victim to the TED format of having one simple message that is memorable. I don't think she should have spoken at all. And separately, a reaction towards her commentary (not to either of you two as hosts, love and respect you both): As a woman engineer that works in the space industry, I absolutely hate this narrative. I can speak from experience just how difficult it is to fight sexist expectations on top of having a demanding job. These men geniuses getting a free pass just because their successful is so infuriating. I work a lot and take equal responsibility with household responsibilities with my partner and plus I'm not an asshole, despite my success. Like all we're doing is giving these "genius" men free labor at home and then excuse their bad behavior, like can we not promote that narrative please? I think asking if we should forgive it is the wrong question, when Elon shows me he can be successful while also doing what I consider to be the bare minimum then I can reevaluate my level of impressed. Thanks for listening to MY TED Talk.
Elspeth Ochs
2024-09-24 18:42:38 +0000 UTCMe too!
Shannon
2024-09-21 10:31:09 +0000 UTCIs it possible that Elon did in fact beat his wife? Is it not common for victims to not talk about how they were beaten in a marriage?
Isaac Bird
2024-09-21 01:29:17 +0000 UTCReally enjoying this series on my commute! ✨
Louisa xoxo
2024-09-20 15:29:22 +0000 UTC
