Feeling Like a Burden
Added 2024-08-23 11:00:10 +0000 UTCDr Kirk Honda talks about perceived burdensomeness, thwarted belongingness, and suicide.
00:00 Intro
1:41 Suicidality
03:57 Trigger warning
04:12 Integrated Model of Suicidal Intention and Thoughts
18:41 Other models of suicidal thoughts
22:01 Loyal attachments
31:25 Dr. Kirk's model of treatment
39:40 The email document
47:25 Why does being 14 suck?
51:51 Is living for spite a schema?
59:18 What does The Giving Tree depict?
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August 23, 2024
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Comments
Which schema does “feel like a burden” belong to?
Samrawit Asfaha
2024-09-23 05:49:19 +0000 UTCI love the way art can illuminate our past experiences and feelings/attitude/perspective on important subjects in life and open up conversations with ourselves and others about those experiences!
Rachel
2024-09-11 21:15:56 +0000 UTCI took the giving tree as a warning as a child. I grew up in the Bible belt and having kids was a given for many girls. The giving tree book gave me a look into what, right or wrong, is expected of mothers. I think it helped me ignore a good deal of conditioning. For me it was mainly in school and church as my family wasn’t like that. That also helped. I feel like it also has the message that every child deserves the greatest gift. Unconditional love.
Rebecca Baskett
2024-09-01 16:52:08 +0000 UTCIn this episode you said that it feels good to be angry and that it helps to connect one with one's needs. Some months (or years?) ago you've said something similar, which has left a strong impression on me. I still remember your words on occasion. I don't really get it. I don't know what it means to enjoy anger or to get one's needs met through anger. However, it feels relevant to my life somehow. This is why, nowadays when I'm feeling anger or something similar, I try thinking "that's a good and helpful thing", instead of avoiding it. I'm hoping that it will actually be good and helpful someday. So far, I'm just exploring the emotion, since I'm not used to consciously feeling it. I'm sorry for the long text without a conclusion. It just felt important somehow.
AutumnCzun
2024-08-28 16:49:38 +0000 UTCAlso I was on an airplane when you read the giving tree and I teared up a little bit
Teo
2024-08-26 01:15:11 +0000 UTCSuch a fantastic episode. I have many thoughts to narcissistically spell out: 1) As a non-expert who knows nothing, I think “burdensome” might be put into the suicidality model to account for those who don’t have thwarted belongingness necessarily, but are being taken care of to a large extent. People with chronic illness or disability, for example. 2) Your description of knowing your family will show up reminds me of philosopher Hannah Arendt’s The Human Condition. She says there are two ways humans deal with uncontrollable and unpredictable world: promises—“the uniquely human way of ordering the future” and forgiveness—the ability to free ourselves from being stuck in reacting to a past action. This second part touches on what you were talking about with unconditional love. 3) Your commentary on anger and suicidality is so insightful and resonates when I dealt with suicidality. I had a lot of anger that was completely suppressed or unable to be expressed or recognized. I think it has a lot to do with hopelessness. Anger is, in a way, an antidote to hopelessness, because it’s an insistence that something be done about your pain. Suppressing that anger is telling yourself not to do anything or that nothing can be done. 4) Said it before, will say it again. You would love Over the Garden Wall.
Teo
2024-08-25 17:45:17 +0000 UTCI think there are AI assistants that could help with your emails. I'm in development and work with AI a lot. I can do some research and get back to ya.
Thomas Garrison
2024-08-25 17:40:54 +0000 UTCI was born in 1967 so a '70's kid too. Our elementary school librarian read us Shel Silverstien stories all the time This was an excellent episode. Lots of usable information. Kirk, do you watch guitar instruction stuff on YouTube or more repair, reviews, gear stuff?
Ed Wile
2024-08-23 22:49:00 +0000 UTCI think there is a lot of compassion and love in LotR. As a teenager, I found reading the books soothing. I don't like everything about the books though. I think the story is based on conservative values that I couldn't relate. The first book, especially the section "a conspiracy unmasked" is my favourite.
GO!《cɛn
2024-08-23 22:27:22 +0000 UTCI would disagree that it shows his regrets in life when resigned on the stump. He doesn’t apologize to her or ever consider her experience. If It’s one sided til the end 💔
Ash
2024-08-23 22:11:27 +0000 UTC
