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Added 2024-12-31 02:00:09 +0000 UTCIn Arcane 2x8, Killing is a Cycle, Mom: We have jail cell touching scenes at home The jail cell touching scene: 💋💋💋🫂🫂🫂
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To be honest, I think your reading of Ambessa is wrong. I think we’ve seen time and time again, that the reason she wants a weapon is so she can protect what’s left of her family from the Black Rose. It’s why she’s so desperate, she really does care for her children.
coolkidsboi134
2025-01-01 23:50:50 +0000 UTCI disagree. Imo vander had clearly lost his grip in the rampage and was seemingly approaching Jinx’s position in the fray. Regardless of the other negative outcomes that you mentioned, Isha’s sacrifice still prevented Vander from making it to Jinx and causing her anymore harm/killing her in that moment.
Jake White
2024-12-31 20:35:03 +0000 UTCI find your view on Ambessa as being unaware of what she is spurring on to be so interesting! I interpreted her in this episode as being aware of the type of darkness that she is unleashing, and choosing to make use of it for the sake of her own ability to maintain control. I agree that the scene in the tent was so revealing of Ambessa's character. In particular, I found a particular darkness in what she said as she was wrapping the protection rune around her arms: "This isn't about revenge, child. These mages dangle above us a sword that impales us should we rise too high, their very nature violates the most core of Noxian values..." When contrasted with what Ambessa has been doing with Viktor and the doctor, this speech shows a deeply cynical moral calculation in her thinking. In all of her actions, words, and the values that she has tried to teach her proteges, the Noxian general shows that she truly does value the fundamental aspects of what make us human. Ambition, sacrifice, loyalty, and work both motivate and propel her and her people forward. The "mages" — I read her as referring to both the Order and Viktor — eschew all of those things, and yet, Ambessa *knows* that those forces, those that use the Arcane to conquer reality, will be the ones to write the future. She certainly wants vengeance, but what she values above all else is power and control. Her deepest drive is to preserve her family and her people's legacy far into the future. So in her view if, as Viktor says, "the Glorious Evolution is destined," Ambessa decides that the way to not only best the Rose, but to secure the Medardas' and Noxus's place in history, is to align herself with Viktor and the doctor, making herself an integral player in the heralding in of this twisted new age. Viewed in this way, Medarda is making an active and knowing choice to betray her own and her entire culture's core values, in a Faustian bargain to maintain control over both the reigns of change and the writing of the narrative of the future. It's what makes both her and the doctor such dark villains: while Viktor had to be biomechanically enhanced in order to abandon his humanity, Ambessa and the doctor simply chose to abandon theirs.
a. tree
2024-12-31 05:38:57 +0000 UTCRespectfully I think you both are missing my point that Isha was only trying to put Vander out of his misery with her sacrifice, as in that moment he was only a threat to the Noxians attacking him. Ultimately though she failed to do so as they kept Vander alive, to then kill his soul afterwards and turn his body fully into their puppet. Isha died, Vander was not saved, nobody else was saved, and Jinx in her broken state gave herself up.
Rekway
2024-12-31 05:12:46 +0000 UTC😂
Alex G
2024-12-31 05:08:11 +0000 UTC@Jake White, and I would add that she freed Vander from his pain and kept him from being used as a war weapon in the way that Ambessa originally wanted. It was tragic, for sure, but I did feel like there was meaning in what Isha did.
a. tree
2024-12-31 04:55:30 +0000 UTCShe gave her life to stop the rampage that Vander was going on before he could kill Powder. That was still meaningful in saving her life.
Jake White
2024-12-31 04:17:52 +0000 UTCI cried first time I heard it.
Anya Mcghee
2024-12-31 04:16:14 +0000 UTCPost clarity is gonna hit her HARD
Anya Mcghee
2024-12-31 04:15:05 +0000 UTCYour 28:30ish “why is this happening to me?” can be summed up by one of the show creator’s comments, paraphrased roughly: “Arcane is at its core a grim-dark storyline. Meaning that even when characters make all the good choices and tick all the right boxes, reality still often crashes down on them in unpredictable and devastating ways.”
Jake White
2024-12-31 03:58:51 +0000 UTCAgree. Always felt it was just shoehorned in because the showrunners wanted it to happen at some point. Vi has to know Jinx's intentions when she left so even if she doesn't plan to go after her she shouldn't be wanting to just bang it out right then lmao. But who knows, we've all had those moments, right? ....riiiiggghhht?
Rekway
2024-12-31 03:57:59 +0000 UTCIsha died for nothing man...
Rekway
2024-12-31 03:54:12 +0000 UTCJinx my little blorbo
_ scüp
2024-12-31 03:37:26 +0000 UTCHearing her say “There’s no good version of me” after we just saw one. Breaks my heart every time. 😭
Whyrie
2024-12-31 03:31:56 +0000 UTCReally dislike the unnecessary spicy scene. Poor Powpow
Anya Mcghee
2024-12-31 03:29:21 +0000 UTC
