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Another fantastic episode, though it's the next one I'm really looking forward to. Though they really did waste no time with the whole stealing the Nauvoo plotline. Also loved the whole dynamic between Miller and Diogo here. The kid is such a little shithead, but it's kind of endearing in a way. And for once, it's Holden that has to do the renegade interrupt.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2025-03-15 01:20:40 +0000 UTCSome big differences between the fist season and the books. Dawes never makes a move against Miller, they have a very cordial relationship. Miller isn't fired because of his investigation. He's fired because he has lied to his boss. There is no Kenzo the spy, no Martians trying to board the Roci. Miller never tracks Julie to Eros, he actually is able to track Holden. Miller is with the Roci when the discover the stealth ship. Havelock is never attacked, he actually leaves Ceres for another job because of the discrimination.
Mark Wood
2025-03-14 14:44:51 +0000 UTCOh and Miller's timer was not his air supply, it was the time of Impact. The show is in general really good at fine details on their digital displays. So right when he ducks to take cover there is 14 minutes 11 seconds, then 13 minutes 47 seconds after he patches the leak. It's definitely the time before impact. It takes time for all the people to get back to their ships and for the ships to move off. So most of that time has gone before Miller responds to Naomi's hails to see if he was ok after the debris field hit him. So when he responds and tells what happened there isn't enough time before impact for the Roci to do anything.
Mark Wood
2025-03-14 14:30:42 +0000 UTCThere are a lot of differences between the books and the show, some minor some really rather large, and of course the books have a ton more detail on plot events and character insights. In the books for example Holden is very much not a guy who ever wants to take a life, without just cause or in the spur of the moment. But the books make it clear Holden did attempt to kill in Eros targeting the chest, and in fact once Miller informed him the chest shots wouldn't work with the guards armor does make a head shot shooting first, once the shit had already started on Eros. And that it was the first time he had to kill using a fire arm (and didn't hesitant to do so but he still hated that he had to). That his time in the military he had killed using ships weapons before, just not man to man. All the events with Kenzo the spy and all those interactions are original to the show. So there was no Holden Amos standoff in the books. But its clear from the writers work (and they worked on each episode of the adaption) that Holden would have tried to stop Amos from shooting the Martians who were trying to board them because the Martians weren't doing anything wrong. He might not have used a kill shot, try and take him down without lethal force, but he would have tried. Here taking out the ship, it guts Holden (not because it's the first ship he has destroyed), but because they were literally Doctors Without Borders. Doctors who go to extreme places to provide medical services, and once they discovered that this wasn't a disaster but a bioweapon would do anything to get the word out to the public as a means to both warn the public and get some accountably to the act of genocide (a James Holden move if there ever was one). Its the first step in losing his world view on how you should behave.
Mark Wood
2025-03-14 14:22:58 +0000 UTCAmazon (UK) have removed it - so am watching on Blu-ray... The picture quality between this and the streaming version is *really* noticeable!
Alan F
2025-03-13 13:34:47 +0000 UTCEveryone already knows what they should do, @bridgecrew we talking to YOU!
Jason Dokos
2025-03-13 03:59:21 +0000 UTCDid you pull an Amos calculation there ;)
Jason Dokos
2025-03-13 03:58:31 +0000 UTCRemember when Kenzo the spy asked Holden “Are you anything like that animal you got topside?” and then later Holden basically executed him slowly. He spent years in the military and is a trained soldier and strategist who held a guy down while Miller killed him a few episodes back. While he was dying. His last acts were going to be killing people. This guy’s whole spirit has been changing leading up to pressing that button.
Redwolf
2025-03-13 00:44:22 +0000 UTCMy entire complete series came in yesterday, just now caught up. Great reaction guys. I knew you would love this show. It never lets up. Like I stated before, I consider this show to be the best sci fi series ever second only to Star Trek.
Monty Crawford
2025-03-12 20:20:27 +0000 UTCJust to nerd out a bit here, so you can feel the weight of what just happened, Eros moving out of the way isn't only about the intelligence of this "thing", but also the sheer scale of energy required to do so. Rough calculations, and keep in mind the joule requirement to achieve this feat is so high because Eros is gigantic, puts it around 1.2×10^20 joules That's the amount of energy released by 28,700 Megaton thermonuclear bombs. Whatever this thing is, it's no joke.
Paul
2025-03-12 14:37:14 +0000 UTCI appreciate how you never spoil your reactions :)
Paul
2025-03-12 14:33:19 +0000 UTCBased on current schedule the decision on what to do after season 2 will be in mid-late April
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-03-12 12:19:36 +0000 UTCThe right thing (stopping a rogue organization threatening the future of humanity with an invincible zombie god virus) IS IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. If it wasn't, asian dad wouldn't have to work in the shadows, he'd be working directly and openly with one or more government powers.
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-03-12 11:39:09 +0000 UTCYou don't send something into the sun from the BOTTOM of its orbit where its closest to the sun (its perigee) but from the top of its orbit (the apogee). This is what I mean about gross lack of understanding of orbital mechanics. And again, the energy required to alter the orbit that much, delivered all at once would vaporize the asteroid. Crashing won't work. It's a nitpick, but it irks me from a show that otherwise tries so hard to bring sci-fi into an accurate representation of reality. Star Trek is soft science, and that's fine. But the Expanse has chosen to ground itself in hard science. Even if its 'Epstein Drive' or whatever is nonsense, it still obeys typical hard science acceleration, g-forces, and other normal inertial mechanics. It just has a better thrust/wt ratio than is currently possible. That's still hard science. Crashing a ship into a moon and it falling into the sun is wildly inconsistent with their setting's approach to reality. In Star Trek you hand wave that some heisenberg compensator exists or whatever, but the Expanse plants their flag in the ground basically saying that their stuff may be better than ours today, but doesn't violate any of the rules we normally need to contend with. Gravity, orbits, atmosphere, etc.
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-03-12 11:37:13 +0000 UTCThere are many different business regions when it is coming streaming and other entertainment distribution services. So soon it might disappear from your region when distribution contract expires for that region.
Kimmo Siniluoto
2025-03-12 09:52:51 +0000 UTCyeah, your probably right. The fictional interstellar generation ship probably wouldn't have time to build up enough velocity with its fictional, impossibly efficient engines in order to deflect the orbit of the fictional Eros Station. And the Enterprise can basically cancel Newtonian physics altogether with "inertial dampener" witchcraft, and perform perfect energy to mass conversion with a thousand replicators anytime anyone wants a banana split. Like I said. Plot devices. Try to have more fun with this stuff.
Aaron Wells
2025-03-12 06:55:11 +0000 UTC"I guess we could just broadcast everything we know..." Miller is directly criticizing Holden with this. In season 1 Holden got on the radio and started broadcasting everything he knew which turned out to be only half the story. His broadcast helped spark an interplanetary war - Miller is giving him shit. This episode wasn't the first time Holden pushed a button and got people killed. "...wait until Earth, Mars and the OPA to all rally together and sing koomaya and do the right thing" He is criticizing Holden again. It's childish, naive, and willfully ignorant of all available information to assume everyone will "do the right thing". They have had the entire duration of their factions to come together and do the right thing and it hasn't happened. Why would it happen this time? Because a military turncoat and war starting alarmist started broadcasting half the story again? Miller is calling him an idealist.
LoTeq
2025-03-12 04:01:27 +0000 UTCVudu/Fandango at Home has em for purchase
Jason Dokos
2025-03-12 02:47:20 +0000 UTCCan we start planning on season 3 now? We need more patrons. Everyone! Tell your friends. Sign them up!
Jason Lallathin
2025-03-12 01:49:46 +0000 UTCWorse comes to worse, you can buy them from the microsoft store, season at a time for like 26 bucks and watch them on your computer. Works for me
Jason Lallathin
2025-03-12 01:45:00 +0000 UTCWe’ve watched through episode 6
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-03-12 01:30:44 +0000 UTCIf they wrote for the Naboo or whatever to gracefully attach to Eros and burn retrograde for long enough to decay the orbit, eh, fine. But just flying into it? No. Not at all. The DeltaV necessary to change the orbit into one that collides with the sun is so damn high that to apply that amount of energy instantly (rather than over time) would have blown the thing apart. Which is explicitly what they discussed being critical to prevent. And there's no way simply ramming the Mormon ship into it would come anywhere close. And I want you to imagine the difference in mass between a ship that is made only heavy enough to hold 4,000 people (extra mass is a waste) versus Eros, at 6.7 × 10^15 kg -- It's a solid rock ~10 miles across. Ignore for a moment how fast the ship was portrayed at going versus whatever you want to imagine it as actually traveling. No. It's just not happening. You're not going to get what you want crashing that ship into Eros.
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-03-12 01:30:25 +0000 UTCNot to build up expectations too much, but the next episode is one of the best hours of television I've ever seen.
Jeff
2025-03-12 01:24:23 +0000 UTCStuck at work late tonight. Thanks for the upload, looking forward to it for when I get home. :)
Aaron Wells
2025-03-12 01:04:40 +0000 UTCAnd no. People aren't going to do the right thing. They'll do whatever is in their interest. That's the difference between real life and Star Trek.
Aaron Wells
2025-03-12 01:00:45 +0000 UTCDepends entirely on how much velocity that ship hits it with. F=M*A. Also, Eros is nowhere near as big as Ceres. About 10 miles across. And it has an extremely weird orbit that brings it in between Earth and Mars for much of its year. So, it's not entirely ridiculous, depending on how far it is from the bottom of its orbit and how hard it gets hit (and nuked) to slow it down enough to fall into a decaying orbit that will eventually toilet bowl down to the sun... But yeah. It's Sci-Fi. Not physics class. For this matter, The Epstein drive is also completely impractical in a purely scientific sense. At some point you just have to bite the bullet and have plot devices.
Aaron Wells
2025-03-12 01:00:18 +0000 UTCJust set sail on the high seas. Piracy is not a monetary issue, but first and foremost a service one. Every show I could ever want to watch, without ads or any sort of bullshit can be found in the same place.
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-03-12 00:42:27 +0000 UTC"I guess we could just broadcast everything we know..." YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO "...wait until Earth, Mars and the OPA to all rally together and sing koomaya and do the right thing" YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN Discovering common enemies has been the foundation of peaceful alliances for as long as history has been recorded. ------------ Also, you don't crash Eros into the sun by slamming a big ship into it. How does a show that prides itself on realistic depiction of space get orbital mechanics so wrong??
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-03-12 00:40:04 +0000 UTC@Robin Rice, that's becuase you're an American. Since your rights laws are like... 50 years out of date... it's rough for the rest fo the world when it comes to digital rights of American movies/shows. They're still following the cable model from the 70s :[
MrTickleTrunk
2025-03-12 00:08:19 +0000 UTCAbsolutely love this episode and the next one, The Expanse somehow manages to keep upping the stakes all the time. I watched the rest of season two the other day and I honestly have no idea how they have crammed so much story in
Worf and Riker Ride Again
2025-03-12 00:01:51 +0000 UTCI don't understand. I see all seasons on Amazon Prime.
Robin Rice
2025-03-11 23:47:13 +0000 UTC??? I watched along on Amazon Prime (but with commercials). Seasons 1, 2 & 3 are still there -- along with Seasons 4 thru 6 of course. So I don't understand. ... [Oh, I googled it and I see what you mean. For some reason, I can still access it on Amazon Prime, but probably not for long.]
Robin Rice
2025-03-11 23:44:35 +0000 UTCSo Amazon pulled Season 1, 2 and 3 due to rights issues, so couldn't watch along on this one. Season 4 and 5 are still available as Amazon produced those. Hard to get hold of DVDs in my neck of the woods, but will try and sort something or find another streaming option. Shame!
Scott Robert Edington
2025-03-11 23:24:07 +0000 UTCAmazon Prime lost the rights to the show they PURCHASED apparently... will have to catch up now... somehow.
MrTickleTrunk
2025-03-11 23:23:31 +0000 UTCshit, I fully missed 2x3 being uploaded
Timothy Nikiforovs
2025-03-11 22:51:16 +0000 UTCMe too.
Robin Rice
2025-03-11 22:41:03 +0000 UTCI totally hoped you'd be releasing S2E4&5 together 😭
Jason Dokos
2025-03-11 22:37:45 +0000 UTC
