Apple Demands 30% Tax From Patreon Creators
Added 2024-08-14 23:51:40 +0000 UTCJust another brick in the wall.... the Pay Wall. Please don't use the iOS Patreon mobile app. Thank you!
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I'm accessing only browser now. Deleted the app. I read about Apple's change but to me it sounded like it was for all those who subscribed through the app. Since I am one of those people, I'm not sure if the surcharge is still being added. Do I need to cancel and resubscribe on the web?
C Genco
2024-08-26 15:56:54 +0000 UTCHeh, Tim Cook posted on how wonderful the National Parks are so you can post "#ShotOniPhone" and I told him he has as much claim on the National Parks as he has on Patreon creators. Told him to stop his extractive policy. Well .. I guess I told him...
Andy Kellett
2024-08-25 22:52:18 +0000 UTCFor those who find viewing in a browser is too much problem And need an App. I understand you have to tap multiple things to get there in a browser. App is less screen fondling. What if I told you you can create your very own button to tap and take you straight to FranLab without an App. It works on Droids with Chrome but may be applicable to fruit fones. Find Patreon in your browser, find FranLab. Click on browser menu dots. Click 'Add to home screen'. You now have a direct to FranLab button to tap to your heart's desire.
Steven Ruhl
2024-08-18 02:01:25 +0000 UTCI hadn't even thought of this affecting patreon until your video given the tax on revenue vs profits is already nuts. Elsewhere lots of developers are discussing how Apple's current position is that even people paying elsewhere should be included in the 30%, so long as they have the ios app on their phones. This could get much worse for so many more subscription services. Additionally, the TOS currently states apps are not allowed to direct a user to web services that use the browser, clearly to prevent subverting apple's tracking and extortion. Lastly, this means content will now be subject to Apple's terms on top of every service's existing terms, whether you use Apple devices or not. Anywhere there's a conflict, Apple's terms will win out in favor of removal or censorship.
Michael Eagan
2024-08-17 01:21:38 +0000 UTCI wonder how much of that 30% is cost of operations and how much is just corporate greed. Personally, I don't compute with fruit, but if I did, my frustration with this new policy would be great.
Katherine Vest
2024-08-17 00:24:29 +0000 UTCShh! Don't give them ideas! 😨
Zygmunt Dean
2024-08-15 17:22:06 +0000 UTCLast Apple product I used in anger was a IIe about 1983. Wasn't especially impressed, like. Only thing for me is that I had to re-enter my email and card details once due to a glitch, wondering if iOS users will in those circumstances get hit with this "fee".
Zygmunt Dean
2024-08-15 17:20:43 +0000 UTCYet another reason to Bin Apple off!
Dr Andy Hill
2024-08-15 16:48:49 +0000 UTCSo the Patreon app is free - just perform all of your transactions using a web browser.
James Korman
2024-08-15 15:46:12 +0000 UTCHow long before Apple sends me a bill for NOT buying an iPhone?
Jim Sadowski
2024-08-15 15:16:34 +0000 UTCRight? I have been thinking “oh maybe I’ll get an old blackberry or something with a physical keyboard” but they probably wouldn’t even work.
jtown5000
2024-08-15 14:24:01 +0000 UTCJust as T-Mobile turn off 2G so you can't dig out your old Nokia or Ericsson.
Jon (0ryn) Westgate
2024-08-15 14:06:38 +0000 UTCImagine this happening with your web browser.
David T
2024-08-15 12:32:23 +0000 UTCAll megacorps are evil!
David Peaker
2024-08-15 10:53:37 +0000 UTCIt's loathsome that Apple are in a position to be able to dictate terms on other platforms. We all need to vote with our wallets and choose alternatives. I'm all for Android, though still prefer using a PC over a phone where possible. I really hope people catch onto this before November and that you don't end up taking too much of a hit, Fran. 😞
Motten
2024-08-15 10:23:52 +0000 UTCAs with many commenters here I don't use the iOS mobile app. I wonder what percentage of Patreon users manage their accounts from a mobile app. I'd guess it's small.
Steve
2024-08-15 09:39:39 +0000 UTCThat's appalling. I've never had any truck with Apple products anyway.
Bob Pockney
2024-08-15 06:54:56 +0000 UTCApp will be deleted from my iPhone. Have used it only because commenting is simpler but will go back to a browser.
DianaB
2024-08-15 06:52:27 +0000 UTCDon't worry, everyone follows apple. Soon to an android near you.
Nerdful Things
2024-08-15 06:51:42 +0000 UTCWishing you a modded DMC-12 and lots of plutonium!
Keri Szafir
2024-08-15 06:28:09 +0000 UTCAnd completely bypassable unless you're someone who *HAS* to do it all on an iPhone.
Keri Szafir
2024-08-15 06:25:59 +0000 UTC"Mobile Everything" BS turning people into smombies in the streets.
Keri Szafir
2024-08-15 06:24:12 +0000 UTCI don't get it either.
Keri Szafir
2024-08-15 06:22:07 +0000 UTCAgreed, this is most likely the case. Which penalizes creators when their users choose a higher tier because they want to reward the creator.
Philip Stephens
2024-08-15 03:58:00 +0000 UTCI have an iPhone but I’ve never installed the Patreon app, I just watch the videos through the browser. I can’t believe Apple is pulling this stunt after the EU told them they must allow other payment providers. I guess they think the US government will never punish them.
Philip Stephens
2024-08-15 03:54:57 +0000 UTCI can never understand the App fetish. Why use an App to view something you can see in your choice of browser?
Steven Ruhl
2024-08-15 03:21:19 +0000 UTCTier upgrades will likely be counted as a new subscription.
Steven Ruhl
2024-08-15 03:19:18 +0000 UTCGenerally good advice. Work through web sites. No reason to use an app. Kind of funny given that Patreon is always suggesting I should use the app. No thanks!
Fred Patton
2024-08-15 02:47:22 +0000 UTCSo five bucks is three-fifty to you, one-fifty to Apple?! Patron URL in description is my unsolicited and unnecessary advice.
Scott Baxter
2024-08-15 02:37:45 +0000 UTCWhat a shame.
CuriousMarc
2024-08-15 02:09:44 +0000 UTCI have an Iphone and I like it but I will not use many of their apps. I support you through my browser on the computer and that will not change.
Scott Hettel
2024-08-15 01:51:53 +0000 UTCThis, there is no reason to make the product worse, just to accept payments in a mobile app.
Strawberry Puptart
2024-08-15 01:13:23 +0000 UTCJust switched to the Android app.
Paul Blanco
2024-08-15 01:02:29 +0000 UTCI wish Patreon would let the iOS app become a dashboard and not offer to collect money through the app. "Support" links just go to the the creator's website and hide support tiers in the app. Folks could be blissfully ignorant that paying through Apple is even an option. Knowing Apple, they probably don't allow that either. I imagine Patreon looked at something like this and decided upending their model to confirm the Apple Way was more beneficial to their own bottom line as well. 😞
Michael A Berry
2024-08-15 00:29:03 +0000 UTCApp deleted! Patreon can be accessed by a browser in IOS.
William Alsing
2024-08-15 00:20:23 +0000 UTCI’m so tired of apple, and smartphones in general. I’m gonna go live like it’s 1985.
jtown5000
2024-08-15 00:18:45 +0000 UTCDisgusting capitalism. It's not even a real actual tax. Only the government gets taxes, don't they? Apple profits through, commission, surcharges, fees or whatever they wanna call it. Glad I'm with Android.
Uncle Phil
2024-08-15 00:03:50 +0000 UTCThat's a really grim precedent
Drewski Brewski
2024-08-15 00:02:20 +0000 UTCOnce again, Booo Apple.
Bill Pedler #9
2024-08-14 23:59:10 +0000 UTC
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