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Ever wonder how some Muslims can become so insensitive to human life as to be suicide bombers? They've become radicalized. This movie portrays the US Marine Corps, a very different organization, one of elite fighters. The first half of the movie shows the hell they went through to become elite, and the second half what happens when such men become radicalized by the horror of the Vietnam war. This movie is not a comedy, nor was it meant to be. It is quite accurate in its portrayals of what the men of the time and place were like in reality, in both halves of the movie. Joker called them the "phony tough and crazy brave", and later that the Marines were creating "indestructible men". Indestructible men don't feel very much for other human beings, even each other. You'll notice very few would show weakness even to each other. This movie absolutely swims in testosterone, which is what is required if you are going to survive in combat as a Marine.

Jane Harker

I believe you just have a different perspective and are unable to see the perspective represented in this movie. I guess I'm saying that this movie went not over your head but around it on both sides. I think sometimes reactors and even old style movie critics have a rigid framework that they will try to put every movie into, but they don't realize that not all movies can fit into that framework.

Piranther

Kubric was a genius!! this was literally two different movies in one

ManneFazez

It wasn’t a “ha ha” comedy, but there’s definitely an element of critical satire intended.

Drew

You're probably the only one Earth who went into this film thinking it was a comedy. And continued believing it to be a comedy 😄 I urge you to at least read the description of any movie you're about to watch.

Shawn Martinez

BTDT Oorah!

Warrior Pitbull

Biss, the part about "This is my rifle, this is my gun' was not humor. It was a drill to make sure Marines do not use the term 'gun'. We only used the term 'rifle' and this was the drill used to make sure we remembered that. it was a serious issue. Using the term 'gun' could get you subjected to extra excersize if you accidentally used it. In the same way, you'll notice privates in boot training don't use the terms 'I', 'you', 'he' etc. we also we're forbidden to use the term 'gun'.

Warrior Pitbull

Semper Fi, brother. P.I. '86 1st B. A Co. Plt. 1084

Warrior Pitbull

I was an active duty Marine from 1971 to 1975. Deployed twice, total of sixteen months. I'm not going to try to change your mind. I'll just say it was an accurate portrayal of Marine boot camp during Vietnam. We had 'KILL KILL KILL' beaten into us until it meant nothing. The balance of the movie shows the reason they did that. Life and death meant little or nothing.

Paul Kay

This war movie is very accurate....it is not a glorified Hollywood movie....this was real life as a soldier....the Vietnamese didnt care about you...the Americans didnt support you and you came home to hostility...it was total demorilization....most unpopular war of all time....the director did an excellent job....and judging it with your reaction and disgust it did its job...you feel exactly like they did from bootcamp to actual combat....

Edwin Moreno

I view this movie more as a cynical, almost nihilistic depiction of war. It is a very different style than something like Saving Private Ryan for example. I still enjoyed it but I understand it can be hard to get into for many people.

samjomian

Here is what United States Marine Corp boot camp is really like. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_PeamfAzeo&pp=ygUOdXNtYyBib290IGNhbXA%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPK6qlpJ_ug&pp=ygUOdXNtYyBib290IGNhbXA%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_0RTH57v66I&pp=ygUOdXNtYyBib290IGNhbXA%3D

Michael Aalgaard

Correct. Keep up the great work.

warcrimes

Its ok <3 You can t like everything in life

Biss Reactions

Never stopped watching a reaction mid-movie of yours before yet here we are.

warcrimes

Just FYI, "When we were Soldiers" depicts the start of the Vietnam war and the first battle when US soliders touched down in battle with the Vietnamese. This movie depicts Vietnam years later in the middle of the war during a very dark time "Tet Offensive". So there are real differences of things. I think this movie and Stanley Kubric is a very different beast than say Saving Private Ryan and Steven Spielberg.

ITMacPro

I don't know who told you it was a comedy. To me it's a drama with elements of comedy; but as a former Navy sailor I think only ex-military or military people would find the humor in some of the bootcamp scenes. It was a different time back in the 60s and even when I went to boot camp the times are different today and I would see as my time in boot camp more shocking than today. You picked one of the most hardcore military movies. Deer Hunter is also another one that can be pretty hardcore.

ITMacPro

Also the actor who played the drill instructor, R Lee Ermey, was in fact a real life drill instructor from the mid 60s to early 70s. He was not acting, he was being himself.

Andrew Zachman

Drill instructors in the US are no longer allowed to make physical contact with a recruit except in self defense. If the drill instructors do make physical contact with a recruit they can be arrested and charged with assault and other charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Michael Aalgaard

Actually, I'll go a step further. I've worked on military products for the Marines, Special Forces, FBI, etc. I've met with representatives of these teams to gather product requirements and feedback. This movie honestly reminds me of the mentality of the FBI HRT more than anyone else. I swear that meeting was straight out of Hollywood.

James Evanko

Never set foot in the military but I knew a lot of people before they joined the military that were exactly like this. When I saw them after they saw combat, they were kind of like "why didn't anyone tell me it would be like that." Obviously, there's people here like Joe that aren't like that. I wish they were all like Joe, honestly, but America is quite the disgusting place filled with quite the disgusting people. This movie is ridiculously more realistic than any of the decent people here would ever want to admit.

James Evanko

They don't get that physical with recruits anymore at boot camp, but they have insults for days. You have never been roasted as bad as you will experience. They want to break you down and then build you up into a soldier. You need to be able to operate in stressful situations and that's how you prepare for it. The later into it you go the less constant the screaming. Every countries military training is different though. I know that's the biggest difference between European and American militaries. European instructors are much calmer.

John Flack

As far as psychological tests go, I don’t know if they do it in normal units but I would assume so and I know they do them on special operations units because they generally have higher security clearance but that doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t snap. There’s several stories of special operations guys that turned into bank robbers and at least one turned into a semi serial killer with his wife and they killed and robbed people together

Dean

Exactly.

Joe

Yea basic training pretty accurate except we never had anyone shoot themselves or the drill sergeant lol

Joe

I feel that sometimes haha. To write a book or no book <3

Joe

Was definitely a comedy for me, especially since I've seen memes of the basic training part of the movie before. I didn't get any "serious" tone from it

Myrodor

Holy cock and balls, I thought ypu had already watched/reacted to this. Anyway, you rock, long live Bisscute ❤

Jeff

We should for sure

Michael Aalgaard

Wow, I have seen this movie before, and...maybe this is not the place to share my very personal feelings and opinions. Just gunna say thank you as always for this and all the reactions.

Rob Schofield

As a former Corpsman/combat medic I can tell you that is the worst depiction of how CPR is property performed. If you are not cracking ribs you ain't doing it right.

Michael Aalgaard

GRUNT is a person of low rank and unskilled.

Michael Aalgaard

This is definitely not a comedy not by a long shot.

Michael Aalgaard

This movie is pure garbage.

David Crabtree

Biss, this is definitely not a comedy. If this movie made you feel uneasy and icky, it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It is about the men being completely desensitized to killing. It is a very accurate representation of basic training in the military, at least in the 60's and 70's. The only thing is Pyle most likely would have been drummed out as a section 8.

Andrew Zachman

I agree also. This movie was actually made as an Anti-War movie. It was the directors attempt to show distain for the American Military.

RJ

I was in the army; I served in a war; I 100% agree with your rating in terms of watchability- particularly nowadays. This movie is very much referenced by people for the basic training part, specifically, private pile, but you don’t really ever hear anyone reference the rest of the movie. I think the basic training part made it iconic and honestly it is the only thing based in some sort of relatable experience for service members. You don’t get entire units of idiots. And you phrased it right when you said “the movie is kind of a joke” because it is a caricatures of the directors interpretation of the war. I’ve seen it a few times and everyone in the service will reference private Pyle, but the movie is art meeting someone else efforts to paint a picture of war and it just doesn’t hit the mark. My grandfather was a 2x Vietnam vet and hated this movie. Again I appreciate certain things but half a star is def fair. Good reaction considering!

Joe

I just read a pretty good summary of the movie, in 3 acts: Act 1: Basic training. The harsh change from civilian into Marine, how violent and unforgiving that old school training could be. How the draft took just about anyone to be a bullet-stopper. Even a partially mentally handicapped guy like Leonard/Pyle. Act 2: Deployment. Fucking around, seeing the sights, being still naive about the war (as Joker was). Holding on to his anti-establishment values. It's easy to be the cynic. Especially in the rear. Act 3: Being in the shit. Really seeing the guts of war. The near insanity of kids turned killers leading other kids into battle. The urban fighting/sniper aspect is too damn real. After killing, there's no going back. You've taken a human life and are changed forever.

Chance

Excellent movie! 5 out of 5 all day long.

Andrew Zachman

I feel like you would've enjoyed this movie better from the very start if you knew it was a drama, and definitely not a comedy. Absolutely, positively not a comedy. Maybe we should include the genre when requesting movies?

Chance


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