Hamilton Morris - POD 106: The Near Death Experience with Tao Lin

Alright buddy

Michael Jones

2025-03-20 16:22:06 +0000 UTC

Did Pickard put the kibosh on the audio only version? FWIW I love how the hype around the Pickard episode has infiltrated the comment section of completely unrelated content. Wild

Demo Stathis

2024-12-28 05:07:16 +0000 UTC

Yes christianity is wrong. It's always sad to see a decent human being fall victim to the brainwashing that is religion.

Dayne Sonnenschein

2024-12-19 15:18:12 +0000 UTC

Yo your epsiode on steroids was absolutely fascinating. As is evident in the comments, there. is high demand for you to interview people whose scientific field of expertise overlaps with drugs in some unexpected way. Specifically, I think picking niche health topics that personally fascinate you would be a fascinating way to round out this podcast. Already appreciate all that you do so much, just it. is clear the people are hungry for your hot takes. Just like everyone was enticed by the possibility of Mega Jacked Hamilton from the steroids ep, I think we all want to day dream about Oral Hygiene Health Icon Hamilton as well.

Ericaceous

2024-11-01 08:02:34 +0000 UTC

I was in a car wreck in 2019 on the freeway .... NDE / "OBE" are a hell of a zinger, I do kinda believe in "sometime" now, some continuing narrative, it sure seems like you can be yourself without your body. Death is sweet though nothing to fear .... wanting to get things done before you die is the ONLY reason to live ... if you don't have sh1t to do ... death is a major upgrade in mental health & living standards. I just got sh1t to do, so I am happy to be here for now

Johnny_Utah

2024-09-02 13:18:55 +0000 UTC

Hamilton morris voice: huh.

Chloeeeeee

2024-08-20 04:35:34 +0000 UTC

Interesting discussion, thank you! Happy to listen to a conversation where people with different world views discuss things without being combatitive about it. Pushing the other side into aggressively defending their position will easily turn a discussion into battle over victory - which is sometimes good but too much of it tends to create unnecessary enmity. Internet especially tends to reward conflict, as that's more entertaining to watch & engage in than peaceful exchange of ideas is; but it's the latter that gives room for an understanding to develop on why someone thinks the way they do. (Well I suppose it's precisely an undertanding people fear as it might lead them into the uncomfortable process of introspection.) But yeah my expert opinion on this is that fuck the hivemind pressuring others to push the dogmatic beliefs of their self-righterous group onto peacefully different-thinking heretics.

Honey-el

2024-08-19 11:05:09 +0000 UTC

If matter is a model, for what reason do you suggest we have no idea what it is? What's the mystery? If construction accounts for the provenance of physical, material, or otherwise scientific phenomena, then surely we have exhaustive knowledge of them--even if they're works in progress. You're also talking about this model as if we all have access to it. Although it's practical to speak as if our ideas belong to some intersubjective reality, this representational landscape is deeply fragmented. Language is nothing more than a crude attempt at telepathy; no words could make my model of reality jump like a flea into the frame of your unique epistemic perspective. In short, there's no shared model. There's not even much sense in speaking as if a multitude of subjective viewpoints occupy, or mediate the view of, a single shared reality. It's not that we don't have an idea of what matter is. In fact, we have nothing but ideas of what matter is.

Ephedra

2024-08-06 15:36:25 +0000 UTC

https://youtu.be/BgBr1pt9r44?si=I_ezPnwO4Fj8vf1e

j_dog

2024-07-29 04:48:07 +0000 UTC

I've been compiling a reading list on NDE and other related phenomena for a while — thanks for the rec, I'll add Lommel's book. As for your take on naturalism (or the spiritual being created by the "natural") I think that's a good framework, although it could just as easily be reversed (the spiritual creates the material). It's a flaw of many so-called materialists that they implicitly claim to understand what "matter" is, when of course, we really have no idea. Science is explicitly concerned with models of reality, what reality appears to do not what it actually is. You could also say, along the lines of do, that science builds models of how reality works (or seems to work), but again is silent on the question of what it is. Matter is a model, clearly a useful one, but by no means exhaustive. So, yes: if people are having anomalous experiences while on the verge of dying, it could be that, considered one way, they are indeed having spiritual experiences that don't fit into any currently-accepted scientific model of matter. It might be that our understanding of matter will progress to the point where we can characterize with any specificity "where" they're going, or how it is they're meeting deceased relatives, having life reviews, etc. Until then, science can say very little, other than "we don't know."

Zach

2024-07-27 13:25:36 +0000 UTC

I had to get mine removed about 4 years ago, 25 now. However Idaho does not prescribe opiates for such minor surgery after the opiod epidemic but 10 years ago I heard otherwise from people getting teeth removal surgery here. I only got mine removed because they grew sideways into my cheek. Such a horrible pain. Created a quarter sized hole.

TripOverThis420

2024-07-26 14:49:09 +0000 UTC

I devoured the NDE literature years back and came to similar conclusions as Tao Lin. IMO The best book for providing evidence for NDE as an unexplainable phenomena is “Consciousness Beyond Life: The Science of the Near-Death Experience” by Pim van Lommel. He is the only scientist to do a Prospective Study(instead of retrospective) of NDE’s and gathered NDE data before, during & after cardiac deaths at the Cardiac clinic he ran. He has an entire chapyer going through and debunking all popular hypotheses to explain NDE. That said… imo there is one hypothesis that remains plausible: endogenous drug release could occur just before death causing time dilation giving the illusion of consciousness after death and subsequent resuscitation. B/c I’ve experienced unexplainable paranormal events I’m partial to a “spiritual” explanation but am not confident or dogmatically attached to this belief. As a staunch materialist I believe that even if the spirit world exists it must be created by the natural world, just as life/consciousness is created by a certain arrangement of atoms. Materialism is Magic and vice versa. Either way, I’m comforted to know that death seems like quite an enjoyable experience.

Mark Hertzler

2024-07-15 21:18:29 +0000 UTC

I think the issue with this argument is that when people give up control to alcohol (i.e., begin to behave in a manner that is uncharacteristic) it's usually not considered a good thing. When people speak highly of alcohol-induced disinhibition it's usually because it facilitated some sort of egosyntonic drive (e.g., "I gained the courage to ask a stranger out on a date" or "I was the life of the party") as opposed to uncharacteristic and egodystonic behaviors (e.g., "I broke the law and endangered the life of strangers because I drove while intoxicated" or "I picked a fight with a stranger and he kicked the shit out of me"). People only like to "renounce control" with alcohol if that renunciation is aligned with their sober desires or, in other words, if their renunciation of control is highly controlled.

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-15 18:38:36 +0000 UTC

Interesting discussion on 'which substances are psychedelic' and 'soul loosening' ideas (though I might choose 'psyche' instead of 'soul'). I don't have many visuals on psychedelics except DMT so my conception of the psychedelic headspace is a little different than most peoples', but I really do think alcohol has psychedelic properties in the right dosage. Clearly alcohol has 'loosening' properties and alters sense of ego; just because people don't have visionary states or out of body experiences from alcohol doesn't mean it's not psychedelic. I think this could be a pathway into more mainstream psychedelic use -- one of the factors that holds many average people from using psychedelics (at least in america; beyond stigma and misinformation) is the fear of giving up control, but so many people give up that control to alcohol on a frequent basis. Teach people that they're already engaging in part of the control-renouncing behavior, and they'll be less afraid to do it with healthier substances.

James Moran

2024-07-15 17:30:52 +0000 UTC

That’s what I figured after going through all the links. 💯 is, in fact, the best emoji to convey their exceptionality! Thanks for all you do!

Ryan Campbell

2024-07-10 12:16:07 +0000 UTC

Because I felt they were exceptionally good and worth checking out, wasn’t sure what emoji best represented that sentiment

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-10 01:42:42 +0000 UTC

Why do some of the links have (💯) by them?

Ryan Campbell

2024-07-09 17:42:41 +0000 UTC

I recommend you read the work of the neuroscientist Antti Revonsuo on "Threat Simulation Theory" in dreaming, he offers a hypothetical explanation for why some dreams may have apparent predictive value. Also if you heard the confrontation while you were asleep the external auditory stimuli could have been incorporated into your dream, this sort of dream incorporation of external sensory stimuli is a well documented phenomenon and can create a scenario where one is having a dream of something that is actually happening e.g., a dream of an alarm clock going off while an alarm clock is going off.

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-08 02:38:38 +0000 UTC

I’m a fairly staunch materialist. However, I have had some experiences that are genuinely unexplainable, for example: viewing a confrontation between my friend and another friend’s father while I was asleep in a dream state at the exact moment the event happened (i woke up at 7am and the event happened just before then). Not sure how that was possible but my general stance is that the universe creates bizarre, call it paranormal if you wish, events sometimes, but such events, even when verified, must still be facilitated by material interactions.

Mark Hertzler

2024-07-07 22:35:36 +0000 UTC

The bit about trepanation as being significant in a psychological body-modification sense reminded me of when I removed my own nexplanon implant with a scalpel — I think the intensity of the process and the relationship between my body and what I was doing to it made me have to lie down and let my mind and body react. I felt lightheaded and almost like I was high, despite not normally being squeamish and it not being painful. I think I’m similarly frustrated by the tendency to only accept the realness and significance of these experiences as supported by a spiritual or neo-medical explanation. Accepting the unknown and the infinite complexity and variability of things is harder than people realize, hence the irony of breaking from the norm by questioning objectivity and established answers, only to convince yourself that your newfound existential explanation has to be the objectively correct one in order for it to be real to you.

charlito

2024-07-04 20:55:27 +0000 UTC

While I agree with many things you’ve said here and I appreciate your input, one thing I will refute is your stance in regards to what will come for us after this life. It is not probable that nothing great comes after this life. Determining the nature of what comes after this life is simply undefinable in probability. Additionally, a thing that occurs to me, is that for every one person that squanders this life due to their “knowing” in there being an afterlife, there are perhaps one, if not more persons who believe in an afterlife and subsequently live life vicariously in service to others due to their “knowing”, or who choose to live life to the absolute fullest with their belief that perhaps, something far greater than the human mind could comprehend will occur to their consciousness upon their passing, and that with this belief, it is worth dedicating a life to spreading love & peace. Cheers fam! 🙏✌️

Hyphae Mikey

2024-07-04 19:02:41 +0000 UTC

This is what I needed to see. Thank you!

Zachary Shaw

2024-07-04 03:30:47 +0000 UTC

Yes

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-03 23:58:46 +0000 UTC

Yes, there is a Professor Dave video dedicated to it. In general the emphasis should not be on refuting outrageous and unsubstantiated claims, but treating such claims with skepticism and not believing them in the first place. Few chemists want to take the time to explain why carbon does not have a "bisexual tone" because...what does that even mean and why would it? Although I acknowledged the potential pedagogical value of flat eartherism in the intro, there are limits to this sort of thing. Here is the Professor Dave video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWAyfr3gxMA&ab_channel=ProfessorDaveExplains

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-03 21:03:00 +0000 UTC

Adam Green the musician, from the moldy peaches?

Gonçalo Almeida

2024-07-03 16:52:44 +0000 UTC

Hi Hamilton, I am not a periodontologist or dental surgeon but a general dentist and I work mostly with children and young adults. That said, I can't think of a reason why a wisdom tooth (that normally is located behind the second molar) would cause a pocket between the first and second molars. I am not questioning your dentist, as it would be foolish to give specific advise without knowing any specifics of your particular case. I would anyway advise you to have an honest conversation with your dentist, asking him how the removal of the wisdom teeth would help the pocket to heal. I would also ask for evidence based documentation. When in doubt you can always ask for a second opinion. If I may add something else and give unasked advise, I would recommend ditching the floss and start using some kind of toothpick (soft pick from Tepe is for most people a good choice), there is little evidence that the floss is effective unless used by a professional. Hope to have helped and wish you good luck with you decision and the outcome. PS: if you don't mind please share with me the justification from your dentist as I am always curious and eager to learn and improve on my knowledge.

Gonçalo Almeida

2024-07-03 16:48:49 +0000 UTC

The pocket is located on the maxillary left side, between the first molar and the second molar. My wisdom teeth have not erupted and may be oriented on an axis that is perpendicular to the other teeth and this is somehow, I don’t know how, exacerbating the pocket. I floss the pocket daily and it seems under control.

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-03 07:46:54 +0000 UTC

Aware of anything else refuting Terrance Howard’s claims? I saw NDT’s response, but Howard said A LOT of wild shit (some quite interesting). Also interested in any other refutations of Rogan’s guests that you’re aware of.

Zachary Shaw

2024-07-03 01:48:00 +0000 UTC

Maybe it is caused by the very knowledge of the person that they are/might be dying. People without any NDEs report thinking about their loved ones and various highlights of their life when they feel the possibility of soon death or injury. See interviews of soldiers on the frontlines of Russian-Ukrainian war where near-inevitability of coming fate is implicit to see clear examples of this.

Jānis Stūrītis

2024-07-02 20:35:16 +0000 UTC

Hi Hamilton, you could ask your dental surgeon about coronectomy if you are worried about damage to the inferior alveolar nerve. Depending on the position of your wisdom tooth leaving it be could be an option if you could clean the distal side of the antepenultimate tooth and so reduce the depth of the pocket. Indication for extraction of inferior wisdom teeth varies a lot per country, changes quite often and is based on factors that don't apply to everybody (though a pocket as in your case can be of some concern, depending on the depth) . I believe that profilactic extraction of wisdom teeth is sometimes an exaggeration, as for your concern for opiate exposure, in most european countries people don't get opiates for post-op pain (regarding dental procedures). It's fun to watch how you, as a layman in dentistry, can have such informed opinions on such a specialised theme. Chapeau. Anyway this was my STEMlord dentistry act🫣

Gonçalo Almeida

2024-07-02 18:05:15 +0000 UTC

Thanks will do! 🙏

Meek

2024-07-02 17:24:32 +0000 UTC

Check out “How to Improve Oral Health & Its Critical Role in Brain & Body Health” from the Huberman Lab podcast

Montana Brock

2024-07-02 15:22:33 +0000 UTC

I love NDT's response to Terrence. It was gentle, but very ascetic or austere... He gave him every benefit of doubt, but would not be moved from his own scientific belief. And in the end, he knew exactly when to let it go and accept he wouldn't be changing TH's mind. Class act.

Goopy

2024-07-02 14:18:28 +0000 UTC

Yes

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-01 17:50:14 +0000 UTC

Very glad you said that, I was going to address that very idea in the intro but hoped someone else would make the same observation independently. I agree completely.

Hamilton Morris

2024-07-01 17:49:46 +0000 UTC

Yeah, fuck Listerine. Thanks for the rec, I will check it out!

stephani peters

2024-07-01 14:29:37 +0000 UTC

Does anyone know a good source for the dental hygiene tips featured in this interview? Xylitol etc, I’d love to do some research and repair my teeth! Always enjoy Hamilton’s interviews even if I don’t find the guest especially compelling in their beliefs, at least he is an open minded guy and totally not fanatic.

Meek

2024-07-01 11:39:47 +0000 UTC

Take your time Hamilton! 💌

Octopappa

2024-07-01 10:32:55 +0000 UTC

I was intrigued by Tao’s comment referencing taking a hike while being aware of your impending doom and how it would ruin the hike if you didn’t believe there would be an afterlife. Then it occurred to me that many people who do believe in an afterlife use it as an excuse to waste this life, the only one we have any actual evidence to believe in. Whatever the case may be, your current life is a truly amazing gift and no one should live it like there will be some thing better afterwards, because there probably won’t be 🙏

Tom Suazo

2024-07-01 01:33:47 +0000 UTC

Have you approached Pickard about being on a larger podcast such as Joe Rogan's? I'm sure Joe would do right on his end because he would be excited to have a guest like Pickard. But would Pickard be willing?

Killion

2024-06-30 21:53:04 +0000 UTC

"Preventive surgery" sounds controversial. What if we remove appendix routinely? I have two impacted wisdom teeth, just like most (?) people. I'm not touching them unless they start causing problems.

Evgeny V

2024-06-30 18:15:16 +0000 UTC

Great episode, are you still planning on interviewing Adam Green at some point?

chad moonstone

2024-06-30 17:24:24 +0000 UTC

Bro id love to see a documentary style production!!!!!! I'd wait for it 😎

M

2024-06-30 17:03:12 +0000 UTC

If there is no brain left to have the NDE you will probably be having a full death experience

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-30 16:53:28 +0000 UTC

I’m on the fence with listerine, I highly recommend the YouTube videos of Dr. Ellie Phillips. I’ve tried to get her on the podcast to discuss the oral microbiome. I use her exact routine except I don’t use listerine. My gums never bleed, though I still floss daily, I don’t need to do it anymore. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZbmz6kBUU

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-30 16:48:52 +0000 UTC

Thanks for the update and for doing the leg work. I am so excited to hear this interview!

Siwanand Das

2024-06-30 16:43:51 +0000 UTC

I appreciate this update.

B-Boy Bungus

2024-06-30 15:10:59 +0000 UTC

Yeah I’m very curious with regard to the experience of someone who didn’t know they were about to die. For example, someone being hit by a stray bullet. If there is no brain left to have the NDE would it still occur? I guess some of us will find out, but until then I’ll wait for someone to read the code above the operating table.

Cameron Mitchell

2024-06-30 14:36:22 +0000 UTC

Professor Dave is a chemistry professor and love all of his videos!

Holton Gable

2024-06-30 09:49:46 +0000 UTC

Thank you for the explanation! I’ve never had the chance to try raw milk yet I would out of curiosity, not the purported health benefits.

slunkd

2024-06-30 01:37:13 +0000 UTC

I don't drink raw milk because of the purported health benefits, there are real reasons to be concerned that it could have a detrimental health effect via exposure to pathogenic bacteria and viruses. I drink it because the flavor is vastly superior, maybe due to the smaller farms it comes from and maybe due to the absence of heat-induced flavor changes like whey protein denaturation and aggregation with casein micelles and fat globules.

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-30 01:21:55 +0000 UTC

I was referring specifically to wisdom tooth extraction and I'm not categorically opposed to it, obviously it is often required if there is impaction-associated infection. I'm mostly concerned about the prevalence of what may be unnecessary surgery in the case of prophylactic extraction, which can result in patients spending large amounts of money, being incapacitated during recovery, and getting exposed to opioids. There are actually studies directly linking wisdom tooth extraction-related opioid prescriptions to long term opioid use and, anecdotally, I've known many people whose first exposure to an opioid high was a product of wisdom tooth extraction. Finally, there are rare instances of lasting nerve damage following extraction. Nine years ago I spent a day with a voice over artist named Tom Rohe who lost his career after he experienced lingual nerve damage during a wisdom tooth extraction that resulted in a severe speech impediment, his story was featured in the Pharmacopeia episode The Ambien Effect. I am not saying that it's always bad, I'm probably going to have to have mine extracted soon and so I've been thinking about it a lot.

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-30 00:47:08 +0000 UTC

It seems there is a lot of desire for it to come out soon, so I can look into getting out an audio-only version in July.

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-30 00:28:38 +0000 UTC

There are a couple of factors delaying release, one is that I am ethically and legally obligated to have everything approved by a lawyer and Pickard, the other is that it was filmed in 8k and working with the files is more complicated than other projects. I could look into the possibility of releasing an audio only version (with Pickard's permission of course) but my current plan is to focus on editing the footage. The plan here is also to make something a bit more intricate than a recording of a conversation, something closer to a doc. I am planning on scheduling a screening of it at the Desert Daze festival in a few months.

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-30 00:27:34 +0000 UTC

It's like waiting for the game of the year release. The hype is real

M

2024-06-29 21:38:06 +0000 UTC

I applaud you for the straight-forward question, however, Hamilton's forecasting of his own release schedule is usually inaccurate.

B-Boy Bungus

2024-06-29 16:27:33 +0000 UTC

Hamilton, what is the estimated release date of your interview with Pickard?

Killion

2024-06-29 15:49:43 +0000 UTC

I hope!

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-29 07:27:18 +0000 UTC

Bring it on!

Matt4dma78dhf

2024-06-29 06:15:00 +0000 UTC

Great episode! Really appreciate your ability to respectfully disagree and take conversations to interesting places, truly next level interviewing Hamilton! I hate the hard line he draws between pharmaceuticals and street drugs. In 5 years THC, Psilocybin, and mdma will all be prescribed by doctors.

Enchanted FX

2024-06-29 03:37:24 +0000 UTC

Why are you suspicious of the idea of tooth extraction?

Maximilian Trausenecker

2024-06-29 00:24:14 +0000 UTC

very interresting convo despite some icky traits

aarni nieminen

2024-06-28 19:36:08 +0000 UTC

I'm basically devils advocate over here with this woowoo stuff. It is a joy and a treat to get such a detailed reply in this space. I apologize to you for having you feeling you needed to defend the owner of this patreon from my words. I don't text well... I imagine my ironic joking around comes across clearly for all and I'm reminded too often it doesn't ): my bad

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-28 19:32:22 +0000 UTC

Love love love professor dave!

Crypto Tonight

2024-06-28 19:31:00 +0000 UTC

I hoped it would be obvious i don't mean that at all.. it's a performative joke... I have nothing but love appreciation and respect for Hamilton and all the good he does.

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-28 19:22:13 +0000 UTC

Excited for the marathon 🙂‍↕️

mia

2024-06-28 18:03:27 +0000 UTC

The rules of their game are such that it’s impossible for anyone who doesn’t agree with them to win, meanwhile they applaud themselves on their supposed bravery to question dogmas 🤦‍♂️

James Batten

2024-06-28 17:51:08 +0000 UTC

But you really can’t help people who confuse factual issues with emotional ones

James Batten

2024-06-28 17:47:25 +0000 UTC

Agreed. You feel powerless though as this stuff gains traction, and some of these beliefs have serious negative consequences

James Batten

2024-06-28 17:45:20 +0000 UTC

A fascinating discussion, and at times a frustrating one, as while I'm generally sympathetic to the non-materialist view of reality, often its most vocal or well-known advocates do a generally poor job of arguing for it.

Zach

2024-06-28 17:32:23 +0000 UTC

I didn’t know I needed an ep on your non-mainstream medical beliefs. I have to say, I was surprised to hear you were drinking a ton of raw milk.

slunkd

2024-06-28 17:31:13 +0000 UTC

Both are futile. Especially when the evidence is immense in supporting the contrary

M

2024-06-28 17:29:56 +0000 UTC

You do just that, don't waste your time 🫨 People will run you on a wild goose chase trying to prove something that does exist, doesn't exist. And something that doesn't exist, does exist.

M

2024-06-28 17:29:34 +0000 UTC

What does one do when one’s bullshit meter is set off, but one does not want to go down to the level of these people in the sense of spending hours of one’s time researching obscure topics on the internet that have nothing to do with one’s actual life or problems… more of a thought than a question

James Batten

2024-06-28 17:02:12 +0000 UTC

My mother, who was also an amphetamine/benzo/opiate addict, became heavily interested in all the same topics as Tao after getting clean. Similarly she also has taken up smoking weed every day! Perhaps addicts who don’t turn to structured religion while getting sober find turning to the mysteries of the universe equally empowering. Discovering and questioning things in the world around us can certainly activate those dopamine receptors an addict often finds so damaged in recovery. Great episode!

Jack F

2024-06-28 15:24:02 +0000 UTC

Why are you even here if you're going to insult Hamilton as an asshat, a jerk etc?

M

2024-06-28 14:10:08 +0000 UTC

Same!

Wonky Kong

2024-06-28 09:11:05 +0000 UTC

Amazing! This pod is the highlight in my day almost everytime it comes out

Octopappa

2024-06-28 07:55:55 +0000 UTC

This is not lost on me, I'm aware when the guy talks about these results he's basically saying "it didn't show up because you can't test for it" which is like asking someone to prove God doesn't exist. End of the day it's going to be difficult to have conversations about this kind of thing because the two camps use different syntax, different rules of engagement... one cannot use the natural sensory to describe metaphysical extra sensory stuff, at least I wouldn't think and it seems obvious to me that this would be the case (like any video of supposed paranormal activity, talk about not getting my rocks off I am beyond incredulous from the start because why are you trying to tell me that what you see in a video proves supernatural s***? Like hello, were you using a supernatural camera?)

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-28 05:58:23 +0000 UTC

About 50 minutes in this person describes the differences between British and Continental European scientific inquiry, then involves the triumph of Edison's pragmatism over Tesla's naturalism in what became the "shut up and calculate" American scientific juggernaut, exemplified by figures like Richard Feinman, from whom were derived and allowed to calcify our modern notions that the logical inconsistencies that were the subject of British and German ontological anxiety are actually failings of the human mind to grock the true nature of things and not problems with the contradictory and increasingly esoteric models themselves. And I will say that while I listen to this guy (and rewind and re listen and re listen) and it's not lost on me the parts where he glosses over swathes of the stuff he's synthesizing, him having presented this other way of investigating true reality and the approaches toward it I feel stands firmly as an example of the point of ontology and the reason for having these arguments in the first place. The thing about the flat earthers for example is, I don't believe much but I am thoroughly convinced those who began propagating the idea were trolls and part of their "message" involved the suggestion that examining what is being told to you is valuable and that no mainstream version should be able to rest on its laurels, lest it become like any other dogma... The problem is with the second generation of flat earthers/disseminators of any of these dumb things people talk about, who got what they thought was that part of the message --that they should be skeptical to a fault-- when it was really about critical thought and thoroughgoing examination of one's own convictions, which if they got that would have then led them to examine their newfound conviction that the earth is flat.... What has happened as a result is, God help them, these people just traded one dogma for another, less defensible, one. ... And they've then made it easy for asshat STEMlords like that Hamilton fellow to shyte all over attempts to have quality discussions of this type.... What a jerk. ...wait a minute. True, I've been shat upon, but was it not through a shining example of a quality ontological discussion that it cameupon me to be thusly shat? It's an honor, my guy. Thank you for taking the time. I'm only over on this side of the fence because my handler TMac suggested disbelief to a bunch of new age wokeists and then left me to grow up and discover what DMT on dissociative anesthetics has in store for the science-minded rationalist who would dare delve dat way. Hope to engage further with you at some point on some more of this woowoo 🤍

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-28 05:24:07 +0000 UTC

Edge me, stemlord....! 😫💦

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-28 04:54:55 +0000 UTC

The video explains the null result i.e., the lack of "expected deviation of the interference fringes" because "ether can be better understood as radiating outward from the light emitters themselves along with all of the other atoms involved within the experiment, in other words there was no ether drag effect because the ether was essentially moving with the experimental setup." This is a slippery and untested (possibly untestable?) redefinition of ether that seems as if it would make ether inseparable from the light that is traveling through it.

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-28 04:39:57 +0000 UTC

If you want more info on the Michelson-Morley experiment, this is a great summary https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics-library-intl/x10bf974b5c2ada11:special-relativity/x10bf974b5c2ada11:michelson-and-morleys-luminiferous-ether-experiment/v/michelson-morley-experiment-introduction

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-28 04:26:13 +0000 UTC

It would take a year to go through everything in that video, but I think the crux of the argument is a confusing refutation of the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment. The concept of noetic ether diverges from historical ether theories and lacks empirical support, this feels ironic because much of the video is criticizing the idea that special relativity led to "the end of empirical science and its replacement by mathematical fantasy games" (not true) when the author seems to be engaging in non-mathematical fantasy games that are not supported by experimental evidence. This is just a loose impression, it's a very complicated video.

Hamilton Morris

2024-06-28 04:12:38 +0000 UTC

I love playing with the ideas covered in this episode and the mention of mouth bacteria reminded me that I have been in a 15-year life experiment of not using alcohol-based dental products. I was convinced by a Reddit post discussing that most of our immune system was in our mouth in the form of bacteria and we were throwing the baby out with the bathwater by killing it. I have been sick just once in the past 15 years (I had a mild cold in 2018 when something was going around the office really hard) and before, I would get sick like "normal" a few times a year with a cold, allergy, or some flu situation. I've just been living this way and kind of forgot I was experimenting. Idk, no cavities, no COVID, not even a sore throat so there might be something here. I also sleep like a baby, eat mostly plants, and have low stress which are things that help immunity too, so this experiment lacks any kind of rigor or controls like most life experiments 🙂

stephani peters

2024-06-28 04:02:58 +0000 UTC

Hey, I'm glad you posted the Jonathan Ott lecture. I remember his talk being the most meaningful at Breaking Convention 2019. It was fun, articulate, and compelling, a pleasure to see Ott speak. It reinforced my scientific awe-filled view of reality and the paradox of physicalism. I recall much of the crowd around being seemingly disengaged, perhaps looking for more "spirit" in the talk, but myself grinning on the edge of my seat. I ran into you at the psychedelic afterparty in the university basement later. Striking up small talk, I excitedly asked if you caught Ott's talk. To which you replied you heard it was "polarizing"! A good memory!

Nathan Zak

2024-06-28 01:47:16 +0000 UTC

💜

Eloi Jeshua Ramirez

2024-06-28 01:40:07 +0000 UTC

https://youtu.be/P2U-y_gI8Zc?si=Mk9-NwayXolKjTTB 😜

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-28 00:15:34 +0000 UTC

Gunna need some references 🤣 jk

M

2024-06-28 00:14:29 +0000 UTC

You could ask the same thing about a DMT experience or fairy tales from various cultures. There's a thin line between what we've been "programmed" to "see" and what's actually there. How these things originate in time is hard to pinpoint; but it could be fair to say: a clever imagination. We often see what we want to see or what we are programmed to see in things. And I don't mean to sound reductionist. But this phenomenon can be observed via many tests and studies of the brain and psychology. It also makes sense that the brain would have a "safe guard" for such a potentially unsettling and ungrounding experience. Regardless of what the truth is, I'm thankful such mechanisms exist. floating into the light of love doesn't sound so bad. ✌️ Once again not saying one way or the other. Just acknowledging your points and questions and providing possible explanations or responses that can be understood with our logical minds, for that's all we have to think with on this side of the veil.

M

2024-06-28 00:12:01 +0000 UTC

Finally the content train has arrived 💗

Tyler Wood

2024-06-28 00:06:47 +0000 UTC

About the Aether... >> Might be helpful to look at it like the aether is the results of emanations up from what we call atoms which can be thought of as standing spherical waves of electromagnetism, which has and is propagating out of each of them to have encompassed all material things which is now facilitating a kind of interaction between every one of these standing spherical waves (particles). Thoughts?

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-27 23:38:26 +0000 UTC

Ok but why specifically those things are seen? Why life review happens? Why there's a sense of no return? Why NDEs have those specific features and not other?

Evgeny V

2024-06-27 23:20:25 +0000 UTC

Love Prof Dave 💗

M

2024-06-27 23:05:46 +0000 UTC

Our brains and our experiences are similar. We all experience death and it wouldn't be far fetched to assume the mechanisms in our brain in regards to death would be similar as well. Regardless of hallucination or not.

M

2024-06-27 23:05:23 +0000 UTC

Even if NDEs are just halkucinations - why they are similar for most people? Seeing dead relatives, seeing light, seeing life review, etc.?

Evgeny V

2024-06-27 23:02:02 +0000 UTC

Great to hear the PC is back. Can't wait to see what 5 interviews we have coming! You're my first and only patreon subscription. Best decision ever

M

2024-06-27 23:01:27 +0000 UTC

Am I following you? 😱

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-27 22:59:55 +0000 UTC

Are you following me? 😘

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-27 22:59:36 +0000 UTC

Hamilton your interviews are dovetailing with my life research in an incredible way...

Pvt. Idaho

2024-06-27 22:59:08 +0000 UTC

Hamilton check out the book by Ann yuntae “the decolonial abyss”, similar topics are discussed. Ann however uses the “abyss” as a metaphors for self discovery through the lense of struggle.

Ignacio Salas

2024-06-27 22:57:16 +0000 UTC

Good things come to those who are patient

M

2024-06-27 22:36:16 +0000 UTC

Where's Leonard Pickard? :(

Alejandro C.

2024-06-27 22:16:57 +0000 UTC

Excited

Nathan Stichter

2024-06-27 22:08:49 +0000 UTC

Woo

M

2024-06-27 22:06:33 +0000 UTC

So exciting! I’ve been patiently waiting for new content. Thanks Hamilton.

Jeff gorski

2024-06-27 22:02:56 +0000 UTC

FINALLY!

Ryan Campbell

2024-06-27 21:57:47 +0000 UTC

POD 106: The Near Death Experience with Tao Lin

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Alright buddy

Did Pickard put the kibosh on the audio only version? FWIW I love how the hype around the Pickard episode has infiltrated the comment section of completely unrelated content. Wild

Yes christianity is wrong. It's always sad to see a decent human being fall victim to the brainwashing that is religion.

*Hamilton morris voice*: huh.

https://youtu.be/BgBr1pt9r44?si=I_ezPnwO4Fj8vf1e

That’s what I figured after going through all the links. 💯 is, in fact, the best emoji to convey their exceptionality! Thanks for all you do!

Because I felt they were exceptionally good and worth checking out, wasn’t sure what emoji best represented that sentiment

Why do some of the links have (💯) by them?

This is what I needed to see. Thank you!

Yes

Adam Green the musician, from the moldy peaches?

Aware of anything else refuting Terrance Howard’s claims? I saw NDT’s response, but Howard said A LOT of wild shit (some quite interesting). Also interested in any other refutations of Rogan’s guests that you’re aware of.

Thanks will do! 🙏

Check out “How to Improve Oral Health & Its Critical Role in Brain & Body Health” from the Huberman Lab podcast

I love NDT's response to Terrence. It was gentle, but very ascetic or austere... He gave him every benefit of doubt, but would not be moved from his own scientific belief. And in the end, he knew exactly when to let it go and accept he wouldn't be changing TH's mind. Class act.

Yes

Very glad you said that, I was going to address that very idea in the intro but hoped someone else would make the same observation independently. I agree completely.

Yeah, fuck Listerine. Thanks for the rec, I will check it out!

Take your time Hamilton! 💌

Have you approached Pickard about being on a larger podcast such as Joe Rogan's? I'm sure Joe would do right on his end because he would be excited to have a guest like Pickard. But would Pickard be willing?

"Preventive surgery" sounds controversial. What if we remove appendix routinely? I have two impacted wisdom teeth, just like most (?) people. I'm not touching them unless they start causing problems.

Great episode, are you still planning on interviewing Adam Green at some point?

Bro id love to see a documentary style production!!!!!! I'd wait for it 😎

If there is no brain left to have the NDE you will probably be having a full death experience

Thanks for the update and for doing the leg work. I am so excited to hear this interview!

I appreciate this update.

Professor Dave is a chemistry professor and love all of his videos!

Thank you for the explanation! I’ve never had the chance to try raw milk yet I would out of curiosity, not the purported health benefits.

It seems there is a lot of desire for it to come out soon, so I can look into getting out an audio-only version in July.

It's like waiting for the game of the year release. The hype is real

I applaud you for the straight-forward question, however, Hamilton's forecasting of his own release schedule is usually inaccurate.

Hamilton, what is the estimated release date of your interview with Pickard?

I hope!

Bring it on!

Why are you suspicious of the idea of tooth extraction?

very interresting convo despite some icky traits

Love love love professor dave!

I hoped it would be obvious i don't mean that at all.. it's a performative joke... I have nothing but love appreciation and respect for Hamilton and all the good he does.

Excited for the marathon 🙂‍↕️

The rules of their game are such that it’s impossible for anyone who doesn’t agree with them to win, meanwhile they applaud themselves on their supposed bravery to question dogmas 🤦‍♂️

But you really can’t help people who confuse factual issues with emotional ones

Agreed. You feel powerless though as this stuff gains traction, and some of these beliefs have serious negative consequences

A fascinating discussion, and at times a frustrating one, as while I'm generally sympathetic to the non-materialist view of reality, often its most vocal or well-known advocates do a generally poor job of arguing for it.

I didn’t know I needed an ep on your non-mainstream medical beliefs. I have to say, I was surprised to hear you were drinking a ton of raw milk.

Both are futile. Especially when the evidence is immense in supporting the contrary

You do just that, don't waste your time 🫨 People will run you on a wild goose chase trying to prove something that does exist, doesn't exist. And something that doesn't exist, does exist.

Why are you even here if you're going to insult Hamilton as an asshat, a jerk etc?

Same!

Amazing! This pod is the highlight in my day almost everytime it comes out

Edge me, stemlord....! 😫💦

If you want more info on the Michelson-Morley experiment, this is a great summary https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics-library-intl/x10bf974b5c2ada11:special-relativity/x10bf974b5c2ada11:michelson-and-morleys-luminiferous-ether-experiment/v/michelson-morley-experiment-introduction

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https://youtu.be/P2U-y_gI8Zc?si=Mk9-NwayXolKjTTB 😜

Gunna need some references 🤣 jk

Finally the content train has arrived 💗

Ok but why specifically those things are seen? Why life review happens? Why there's a sense of no return? Why NDEs have those specific features and not other?

Love Prof Dave 💗

Our brains and our experiences are similar. We all experience death and it wouldn't be far fetched to assume the mechanisms in our brain in regards to death would be similar as well. Regardless of hallucination or not.

Even if NDEs are just halkucinations - why they are similar for most people? Seeing dead relatives, seeing light, seeing life review, etc.?

Great to hear the PC is back. Can't wait to see what 5 interviews we have coming! You're my first and only patreon subscription. Best decision ever

Am I following you? 😱

Are you following me? 😘

Hamilton your interviews are dovetailing with my life research in an incredible way...

Hamilton check out the book by Ann yuntae “the decolonial abyss”, similar topics are discussed. Ann however uses the “abyss” as a metaphors for self discovery through the lense of struggle.

Good things come to those who are patient

Where's Leonard Pickard? :(

Excited

Woo

So exciting! I’ve been patiently waiting for new content. Thanks Hamilton.

FINALLY!

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Hamilton morris voice: huh.