Ramble: The Ghost of Evermore

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Stephanie Price

I do appreciate a gauntlet being thrown because I do want to see what Jenny would do with a theme park

Knitter? I hardly know her!

https://youtu.be/TSzxJEAA7k0?si=XISPSKwwNAcf_79I

Benny N

There's a MagiQuest fan channel that interviews people who worked on it, and you might get a kick out of this actor's name:

Benny N

the art behind the "tales of evermore" audio drama text is so obviously AI, this is sooooooooooo embarrassing and cringe when one of the only things that ever made the park look appealing was the lovely concept art

SJ Matt

STEP…THREE

Ella Taran

This is an extremely old video, nobody is talking about this anymore. but I'm just now catching up on the evermore lore. I have to say, I could be completely wrong, but just from what I've seen, I would bet a lot of money that some incident where a guest assaulted an employee happened every single day that the park was open, for its whole life. I just really think not a day went by without something happening, even with how few people must have come most days and their extremely limited hours. They really did not do a damn thing to prevent any of it, all but openly encouraged their guests to assault their employees. I'm so glad that park is finally permadead.

A Graham Reynolds

I occasionally will go back and rewatch these videos and up until this most recent watch I had no idea who Brandon Sanderson was or what he writes, I have (unrelated) started reading the Mistborn series since then though. From what I understand the castle/bookshop wouldn't be themed to any one series, but even if he had wanted to use Evermore as like a walkthrough location, I'm guessing the rest of his series are similar to Mistborn in that the vibes would decidedly not be whimsical or cute. In the case of Mistborn, more like, dilapidated buildings and a barren landscape. But hey it would have been easy to convert Evermore to that.

Celozon

genuinely why are all the evermore actors like fundamentally bad at improv. why do they always say no. did ken bretschneider never tell them to "yes, and". like the guy who said he's never heard of guilds. why not say "woah! That sounds interesting! You should talk to xyz, she's more of a social butterfly than me!"

Nicky

new patron who signed up in large part specifically for evermore, hello from the future everyone! on my second watch of this video, and the image I'm stuck with in my mind is of ken delivering canned lines to new management about the park like it's a dirty kitten left in a wet cardboard box, and how the previous managers mistreated it, how it's a beautiful thing under all that muck, and YOU are the one who's going to save it. and then the new hire reaches out to hold the sad kitten and take it for a bath and then falls through a big trapdoor. into hell. and the trapdoor has 'THE PROBLEMS BAKED INTO THE LOAF' written on it. ken starts laughing evilly, another hopeful fallen prey to his dastardly trap, his true passion project; cause as much pain and suffering to nerds as it is possible to inflict through a theme park.

Tuber

new patron going through jennys evermore stuff right now, just wanted to add to this that I think that one of the fatal flaws of this project was not understanding what is essential in a theme park MVP. like, functional and safe infrastructure, food and drinks, safety for staff that takes into account the unique hazards of their role, A Backstage, good security and guest relations, a dedicated marketing team... some stuff you can get away with starting without in tech, some stuff that just doesn't apply to tech projects. it's like no one in upper management knew or was willing to learn ANYTHING about the field they were going into. distilled hubris. acting too big to fail from day one. that serial entrepreneur realness

Tuber

My favourite thing about all of these Evermore videos is how much the employees and actors seem to not want anything to do with the guests who try to speak with them. It feels like guests were rudely intruding on the actors' private larp sessions

Elle

Watching all these videos in a row, the biggest thing that bugs me? Why do they all talk with English accents?

Nicholas Graham

I can't believe they got Hbomberguy to perform in Lore 2023

RowanCrimes

That ghost tour skull story might be me new favorite Jenny moment

Maria Teresa Andrioli

PLEASE DO A FNAF VIDEO

plz put this name after 'plz put this name last thx jenny' thx jenny

"I want the melodrama and the weird stuff I don't understand." 😂

KBD

This Q&A is a trainwreck and hard to watch. How did this go live?

Jim Holden

That guy telling that skull switching story sounds like he’s sharing the very first story he’s ever written in his life, and just happens to have the misfortune of (either by choice or cruel design of fate) presenting that story to the public. Kudos (not sarcasm) to this guy if he’s able to weather that embarrassment because I certainly could not.

Wren

I lived in the East Bay for a few years in elementary school and I LOVED Marine World. So relatable

Kate Bryan

I will still just never get over the REVEAL of Bob being a PATREON MEMBER

wheeliescoot

It felt INCREDIBLE hearing the question @ 1:36:58 get read out JHGHFHFHF

zoey loves kibble

Jenny's Evermore content feeds my bottomless appetite for Jenny's Evermore content. I can't get enough, it's such a gut buster every time!

Aaron Stear

Ken is so Greatest Showman coded

gentlecurveofeggs

"Only 3% of revenue comes from returning guests". This blew my mind. It means Evermore always needed to be an national/international destination to work. But then why have a season-long plot that requires you to visit regularly to keep up with the story? They just needed 3 themed groundhog day-style stories per year (cycling through the themes of fantasy, Halloween and Christmas). Give the creative directors a set budget and total creative control. Now every time it's open, it's a true event. You can charge wayyy more and people have a reason to fly out 2 - 3x per year to see what magic they've spun this time. Gosh. This all just goes to show that a "vision" ≠ a sound business model. I consult with startups for a living and the pure ego & delusion of Ken is all too common.

Alex Bloody James

Right?!? I clocked that too, along with Beldam being mainly from Coraline.

Hedge

Just realized on rewatch the new doll story wasn't even an original plot. It's just a clumsy, massacred retelling of Vasilisa the Fair. I guess calling the witch the Beldam instead of Baba Yaga made it sound less shamelessly plagiarized.

Bettie Noire

Idk, I feel like the word “beldam” is all that those two things have in common

Ginger Jones

1:39:30 is the most surprising and captivating fourth-wall break I’ve seen in any piece of media

JG

Wow, that interview is shocking. “You’re just a pussy, welcome to the real world” especially is just a classic abusive boss response to people complaining about mistreatment. As you said, clear lack of media training!

Lizzie

the "certain number" thing basically confirms my theory about why he opened it in Utah, aside from cheap land: that Mormon Christofascist police state government will protect rapists at all costs as long as they are white men and no, calling the police there would not have helped at all. Evermore's abuses are a symptom

Danielle Schatten

I’m actually so excited!!

coffee beam

2:05:00…is there a reason for the jarring costume change or?

Florence Montecalvo

I feel like everyone who reads this is probably already aware….but another rich person bought the failed park, launched a scavenger hunt to discover/choose a name for the new park, and ultimately landed on Realm Town. Honestly, it sounds like it’s gonna be just as bad as the original park.

Florence Montecalvo

Very late to this video- but the two Evermore employees featured in that chat made me audibly yell! Particularly that woman saying she MET YOU and how lovely you were! The smirking egos that took root in that place, my lord. I can only hope they’re embarrassed by how they conducted themselves on public platforms and will make smarter decisions in the future!

Callie C

I'm sure this point has been made, but I'm waffling between baffled why Evermore doesn't run more like a Renaissance Faire, which would probably be more successful (or at least, there are currently several successful ones around the U.S.), and confused as to how Evermore is different from a Renaissance Faire (they're trying to market/present it as more than it is?)

blooblis

I love how Americans’ idea of “fantastical” and magical in movies, TV, theme parks, etc. is almost always just “have them perform vague non-region specific British accents” 😂

Brian Weidemann

Thank you for the content warnings

Talia M

I agree. There are some truly beautiful areas, especially at night... That stacked stone arch way is magnificent by itself.

Marcus Underwood

There is so much weirdness around this park, so many bad business decisions, so much stupidity. It's odd it even opened tbh. It also seems that Sleep no more will end in September this year. A bad year for "interactive" theatre not that evermore was that in the end.

Irashu

I know right. I am actually watching the YT channel about the "new" park right now. And their new ideas for the park also their community quest. I have no idea what even is going on. But I am oddly intrigued lol.

Irashu

So, I know I'm super late (returning patron lol), but: A couple of people in the comments have pointed this out, but the theory that Ken was just bluffing his way into more investor money makes so much sense. One of the comments mentioned that this is how things work for tech, I do want to add on that it is not JUST for the tech industry. That the park (unfinished as it was) was just the Minimum Viable Product - the MVP. This is a very common thing to have for any brand looking to get investors on board. So all those locked up buildings and vacant construction sites, really just served a single purpose: to be part of Ken's pitch. To be his MVP, his prototype, something tangible that the investors could look at and go "Oh, this could work. I'm gonna put money into this and eventually get a return." Well, we know now that this didn't work, but still, it boggles the mind. If you're making a prototype of something to show investors, one of the rules you have to follow is that it needs to be as cheap as possible for a working prototype. So why waste so much money with purchasing the land and building on it, when he could have just made a small, scaled model of his idea for the park on a piece of styrofoam? It is shocking that Ken did all this for what was, essentially, just a prototype. The world's most expensive MVP. Yikes.

Matheus Martins

https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2024/08/12/evermore-park-property-has-been/ the saga continues lol

Alyssa Ciorciari

I think the Evermore environment itself is rather beautiful and parts of it are downright classy, in spite of its unfinished state. So much better than an artificial indoor foam construction like many other themed environments. I hope someone does something with its remains. It's such a shame to leave all that to rot.

Charlotte KL

The tangent of Kanye at Disneyland is something that I think more people should know about.

Goro Akechi

interesting ken bretschneider adjacent update: Digicert (ken’s cyber company) just had a massive fuck up having to do w the security certificates it provides to customers. probably going to get sued from a bunch of different directions as it’s causing a bunch of their customers (BIG companies) some serious issues.

Emi Ruth

Five Nights sounds like a fun topic! I know absolutely nothing about the intense fandom of it and I just know you would be able to explain it perfectly a la MLP

KBD

Wow! Your section on MagiQuest brought back a lot of pleasant childhood memories of playing at the Myrtle Beach location before it closed. I remember begging my mom to buy me all the cool accessories for my wand. It was a really neat sort of introduction to LARP for children and I'm glad it's still around at the Great Wolf Lodge

Vesper Sinclair

I hope nobody ever confused this park with the Taylor Swift album! I bet it would be a good to set some kind of litigation in place if so.......... Lol. RIP Evermore. Your management never deserved the cool people who tried hard to make your park work.

Abigail Duerksen

your mind.....

a. sharp

She could still do a yearly evermore video, just set in a paralel universe where evermore is still open

Sarah

I was at the Taylor Swift Amsterdam concert last Saturday, and kept thinking about these videos while she was talking about her Evermore album 😅

Feiyuan

I feel like “Evermore” is the “Lauren” and Jenny is the “Nicole” (re: Jenny’s Hallmark Channel Video). “Evermore” seems like the type of place that would put dry ice in a bowl and call it a “recipe”… or water in a bottle and call it a “craft”. Does that make “Bob” the “Thea”?!?!

Dominic Zumbo

The Beldam story they tried to pass off as original is a twist on Coraline

Brittany flood

This is nothing to do with anything, I just need to make shrieking noises about you going to Europapark. It's like the One Good Theme Park that we could drive to as a kid, because we were always visiting family in Germany and it's roughly on the way, and I loved it there. (Plus we went once with school, that was fun)

With Quiet Eyes

Jenny I joined the Patreon FOR the extra Evermore content😂

Ashley Green

I've been hankering for some Scandinavian Sour Swimmers from Trader Joe's and to see the just as superior Bats & Cats in the corner is such a tease.

Jonathan Phillips

As someone who attended the opening weekend of the very first Magiquest - I screamed when it was mentioned. I spent half of the Star Wars hotel video thinking that experience would've been improved by Magiquest type technology. The one I attended had some animatronics !

Alexis Turner

Also, I don't know if you've heard of the Dutch immersive theme park "Land van Ooit" (land of ever) in the 90s? It's in ruins now, though you can still walk through it (it's close to the Efteling). But I find it remarkable how many things overlap with Evermore. Land van Ooit was a little less interactive and mainly aimed at kids, but I loved it back then, because it had such weird characters and locations. The story didn't change, but there was all this general lore and backstory you could uncover and there was a rank as Knight you could earn (which as a girl I found extremely cool 😄)

Marquis(e) de Maupin

I've organised (and played) larp for over 14 years and the Evermore saga seems so similar to all the problems I encountered there (sexual abuse, shady money constructions, power imbalances between players, lack of diversity). In the end - it made me quit, because nobody seemed willing to sacrifice their fantasy for real life safety.

Marquis(e) de Maupin

I’ve lost some respect for Bob

Ashley Green

I know you're done with Evermore, but now that Evermore is super extra double closed, I was wondering if you would consider doing a final Ramble, for last thoughts about Evermore? Now that it is closed... forever more...

Joanne Renaud

Oh shit I have family in Omaha so I made the trip to Worlds of Fun a number of times as a kid. Can't speak to their Halloween experience but riding the Patriot for the first time was a formative experience for me so I'll always have a lot of affection for that place

Evan

Their spooky Halloween sounds as bad as the one at my local theme park Worlds of Fun. BUT no one but babies goes to the haunt at World of Fun. In Kansas City we have an entire haunted house district. People have bought up old factories and built multistory experiences. They are all like 30-60 minutes long and the two most popular ones sell a discounted joint ticket. Plus they have scare actors entertaining you in line and in the lobby, and sometimes even evangelical Christian’s protesting which is its own form of scare actor. Highly recommend if anyone is ever in KC around Halloween.

Roxanne T

OH ok so when I was considering going at Halloween I figured a lot of people go in costumes that are just their Halloween costumes and have nothing to do with Evermore. So my idea was to dress as Velma. Easy closet cosplay, the wig with chunky bangs, the big glasses. It's a costume that covers a lot of your face without looking like you're trying to hide your face! Hide in plain sight.

Jenny Nicholson

1:42:50 Evermore disguise outfit reveal now? Now that they're closed?

Lupa Wick

I knowwww that would be amazing!!!! He is definitely the dreamer that is needed to make it amazing, and he seems like a guy who prioritizes the people working and the community. He’s from around that place, it’s like the perfect thing to do

Jonny

When I got to the convoluted ghost story a thunderstorm rolled in and it made everything 10x funnier. I hope that woman figures out what to do with all of her skulls.

ddddan

Its so weird, its like the creator secretly wants it to die? Theres a cute little illuminated forest walk in a park "near" me called Foresta Lumina because people here are kinda obsessed with projection art I guess, idk. Anyways they are a relatively small budget art project but started with their initial funding going into things like renovating the park's walkways, and lighting it in a way thats safe at night, with mostly simple effects which were not spectacular but certainly effective and novel. I dont get out that much but have been willing to drive several hours twice now to go see it, when it first opened and again recently- its a fun thing to do and its a fun city project that they keep working on and adding bigger effects. Its fairy themed and its twinkly lights in a forest, its small scale and cheesy, but still, thats great to look at! I really don't think anything explains evermores financials other than a big ego getting in the way of something inherently very desirable as a day trip with the kids. Kids need things to do in the summer, I know a family that went to the zoo every weekend last month. At the right price and the right offerings families could be a steady source of income, it's so nuts to me they make no money in the summer... the only operating season for this random small forest art installation. I mean I guess it doesnt hurt that the town is centered around a major ice-cream factory which is both whimsical and summer appropriate but still , its in the middle of nowhere with not much else around and by design takes place only at night, but both times I went it the bookings were pretty full for the entire summer and into fall, and it was full of kids having a great time. Oh and guess what they have a gift shop full of generic fairy wings, glowsticks, and light up wands and guess what all the kids have...

Scrum Diddely Umptious

“Male” is right lol

Konner Dent

Sounds like a good concept for a different kind of park. I would become a season pass holder for Cat Treat Park!

Konner Dent

obsessed with Bob. Hi bob if you see this

Danny Dearest

Hi Editing Jenny! The incoherent ghost story is a mangling of a traditional Russian fairy tale about Baba Yaga. A lot of the beats are traditional beats for this story. The threat to replace one of her old, stale skulls with a fresh one. The promise of freedom if the visitor does an impossible task, etc. Imagine someone who's only ever heard *of* Hansel and Gretel, trying to tell you the Hansel and Gretel fairy tale. You'd recognize it, even if it were horribly mangled in the telling.

Lucia Pacciola

He was cancelled by his suppliers for not paying his bills

KP Lim

Jenny I went to magi quest as a young boy at great wolf. It blew my mind and I loved it. I moved to Minnesota and It used to be in the mall of America. I was very sad to find out that it had closed by the time I moved there. Happy to see someone else talking about it.

Colton Ames

The part of having no one walk them to their cars is insane. Even just being a bouncer for a period of time, it was never spoken or told to us, it was just known that you always walk the female bartenders to their cars and make sure they leave safely. It's insane that with incidents happening often no one thought to do this.

Alex Manenkoff

Your hypothesis on Bretschneider's thinking in "the bluff" is basically how all tech startups operate. You get more and more funding based on slide decks (concept art) and tech demos to hire people to build a minimum viable product that you release and then get more and more funding to grow it. They got to the Minimum Viable Product phase it sounds like and never really got the funding he expected after releasing it.

Midnight Blue

While watching this video, i wanted to visit evermore but it's closed now. However! That's not the sad part. The sad part is how the employees found out.

Jennifer Howard

It was so funny seeing Jenny talk about how people defending Evermore always say certain things and blame the problems on the last managers, and then when someone from the park is asked about her video she says the *exact same things.*

ItsNate98

Marine World, the Six Flags that you mentioned, is in my hometown! I can tell you that no matter how bad you remember it as a kid, it is 10x worse now! I went in January 2022 and for one of the animal shows it was just a cat. Like a house cat. It didn’t even do any tricks or anything. We just sat and watched a cat walk around for ten minutes and get some treats.

Jakob Welch

I used to work at a independent zoo that was more on the theme park side than the conservation/research side of animal attractions. Every summer would end in a "We're Rich!" period, followed by overspending on a halloween attraction in the fall, followed by a "We're probably closing :(" period through the winter until school field trip season started in the spring. Great business model 10/10!

Micah Harrison

I am IN these comments searching for the Bob reveal show yourself Bob

Zoë Collis

I know this vid/post is a few months old but I would genuinely love your take on FNAF, whether it’s the movie or the game series or whatever. I have still yet to see the movie myself but I know the whole franchise is such a huge thing for the “kids these days” that I’d love to see it get the Jenny Nicholson treatment, even if it’s just a short 20-min or so movie talk.

Maddie Moreland

I was so excited when you brought up MagiQuest. It's been a beloved part of our family for most of our kids' lives. We mostly do the Great Wolf Lodge version, which is fun, but our introduction to MQ was that very Tennessee venue. It was such a blast of nostalgia to see the interior again. I own rune necklaces and we all have wands and plushies. :) If MQ took over Evermore, it would be so much fun.

RiaJaize

As someone from Utah who moved away before I even learned about evermore, it’s just so odd to follow this story knowing i coexisted alongside it. I also find it funny evermore was basing their survival on competing with places like fear factory for the Halloween crowds. That place is housed in an old factory parked right off i-15 with huge creepy statues and giant projections on the side of the building during the fall. It terrified me every time we drove by it when I was little, and I didn’t even know evermore existed until Jenny.

kalyn avery

This manager saying "evermore was simply paid a flat fee upfront to be used as a venue for this quincy thing" does not AT ALL square with how the event played out and was advertised. (In my experience as an immersive actor) places that are booked solely as venues are not then made to advertise for said event, why would they waste money and effort doing that, when they've already gotten their payday and allegedly are seeing none of the ticket sales. If this was a quincy and co organized event, why would they go about adding all this extra non-quincy stuff to draw people in? From all the details you provided about how it was organized, from the catering to the DND sessions to the park admission to the fact the event had a stupid evermore-esque name like ~The Convergence~, it seems obvious that this was an event in collaboration with quincy's team to try to bring people to the park. Claiming they were merely a venue used to house the event is like seeing a celebrity will be at your local comic con, and assuming that celebrity is the one putting on the con and handling the billions of logistics around it. I'd maaaaybe doubt that claim less if it seemed like Quincy was trying to headline and organize some kind of major recurring event, akin to when fan communities get so big the fans themselves end up organizing the largest fandom events a la bronycon, but this was obviously a one time deal. Evermore acting as if the small management team of some guy who's kinda big in a highly specific tiktok niche did alllllll the event planning minutia and got alllllll of those sweet sweet vip ticket dollars is simply laughable.

Tomboy

Are you going to do another video now that Evermore HAS completely shutdown?

jamezilla

And it's offically closed now as of April. I did see an instagram from @hownottodm that the land all around Evermore is owned by Brandon Sanderson, so seems pretty likely he would try to buy that up too.

Jessica DeAlba

Just subscribed so I can hear these update videos. Been wanting to for awhile but can finally afford it and I’m so hyped

Tabitha Griffin

GIVE ME A SANDERSON LAND PLEASE!!! 🥹🥹🥹

Abby

*in a island

nvmthatwasboring

First Patreon video I’ve seen in so excited to watch them all now this was so good

Wyatt Case

lol I am so late but PLEASE make a FNAF video lol

Katherine

that ghost story being told at evermore about the skulls reminds me a bit of the russian fairy tale Vasilisa the Beautiful - the skulls on fenceposts, the gate being locked, asking the boy to do a task for her... a lot of differences but it does remind me of it

Iris Worrall

This Ghost headband is so derpy and adorable, I love it ! Where is it from ?

Marion Heisenberg

Yes! I was looking for this comment it is a butchered retelling on baba yaga

JJ

I am convinced that its a really poor retelling of a baba yaga story

JJ

Honestly would love you to do a book review/reading on the Fnaf books

bovaque

"Bob at Evermore" aka secret patron Bob made a video about the full closure of Evermore if anyone wants more info

MaxMin

News broke today but officially evermore is dead. The landowner hopes to make something of it but for now evermore legacy is your videos for me lol

Alexis Dinsdale

Yoooo I’ve been missing your stuff on YouTube! Someone told me about your patreon and I’m so glad

Avi the project

An over ambitious guy trying to pretend hard enough to male his dreams a reality? The Evermore and Tommy Tallarico crossover we need

Brandi Ray

The bald scientist guy reminds me of hhbomber guy

Autumn Taylor

Holy crap this looks really cool, thanks for mentioning it!

Autumn Taylor

If there's one reason I've never gotten into ren Faire culture, its everyone and their mom doing a fake British accent

Autumn Taylor

Josh Steadman came to speak at my college a couple of years ago! Really nice guy with an interesting artistic background. This was before Evermore completely went under, but the impression I got was that it was a very chaotic time

Autumn Taylor

the GALL of Bob to complain you “jumped to conclusions” when you specifically said you were making a conspiracy theory, allegedly, and on a PATREON EXCLUSIVE VIDEO 😭

wheeliescoot

I love these Evermore updates, I don’t know why but it’s so entertaining to me.

Luigi

I’m too adhd for the actors slow delivery and too autistic for their fake British accents.

Tori Rittenger

I think you're totally correct, and I can also say as a person directly involved in organizing LARP events that I would not touch Evermore Park with a 20-foot pole as a venue. They seem like the most unreliable business partner imaginable.

Jake G

Super forgot to comment here, but thank you for this video: I watched/listened this the day after it came out as I was decorating my brother’s house for their baby that was born that evening!! This was perfect to listen to as I untangled the streamers that immediately got tangled after I took them out of the package. So again, thanks for the great content like this that’s perfect to listen to while doing things!!

Carrie Marshall

Random question have you ever heard of/been to Galaxyland?

Kat

i kindof hope it's a tree with a face

Bob

i want to live in that reality, specifically because taylor's countersuit could then be titled "I'ma let you finish, but you owe me a lot of royalties"

Jessica Knight

Maybe the oriental land company can buy it...just some real investor....

laureta Huit

i love seeing evermore updates from jenny, i feel like if people are tired of hearing about it they should just watch her other stuff…nbd

Isabella

If I had to pick one other place with some kind of vague equivalency in execution, if not in concept, to Evermore, it would be This Is The Place Heritage Park up in Salt Lake City. I low key kind of recommend it next time you're in Utah. It has a similar vibe to what Evermore has ultimately become, albeit they've reached this place honestly and have never tried to be more than what they are. It even has some light LARPing elements, with actors who will occasionally give performances in the town and a Schoolhouse with unique lessons given every day. It's a small recreation of a pioneer village from the early days of Utah's settlement. It's mostly geared towards kids and is overall meant to be an educational experience, but it has other cool stuff and lots of Utah themed merch in the gift shop. I'd say if you go with LARPing in mind, most of the employees would probably play along. The only real negative is the food. There is a good donut shop and a creamery, but their one sit-down restaurant the last time we went only had snacks and drinks, no kitchen prepared food, so I'm not sure what's going on there. It does have two trains, one actual train on rails, and another that's just a big truck done up to look like a train that does tours, but it DOES have a caboose you can sit in!

Mel Vitta

They should be doing private rentals daily... some other girl made a video about LARP and how they have to set up games and rent spaces, they should exclusively rent to LARP games...

laureta Huit

imagine if jenny's foolproof disguise was just being in the back half of a two person horse suit lmao

a. sharp

The best part about the horribly confusing Lore video is learning that the southern cowgirl whose entire family was eaten by werewolves seems to be still there. I’m happy to know that for some reason.

Nat L.

So I found something interesting but not really surprising I guess- the ticket buy page for The Convergance is still up, and has numbers for 'tickets left' in each section. Doesn't that mean those numbers are 100% fake? The page I'm looking at tells me there's still tickets available for an event in the past, with the dates right there, and takes me to a payment information screen if I go further. I'm unsure if it actually lets you pay them for an event in the past because I don't really want to give them my card info to find out, but... At least take the site down? Or redirect it? It's on its own URL so it's still being paid for by someone, or they paid for the URL for way too long a time period EDIT: I have a link but I don't really want to post a direct link to a page where you can give Evermore your card info.

Eltarani

he's actually got even bigger plans than that https://youtu.be/NgDeI8nciuE

Bob

This has become a horrifying expose. the park should be closed immediately. Sounds like a breeding ground for predators to run free with their fantasies, like westworld

Ems

I choose to believe Judge Adkinson from the ebooks is somehow related to Judge Adkins from Troll by Emma Clark.

Ash M

the bob reveal was absolutely priceless omg bob if you’re out there please tell all. what do you know robert

Toony Loony

Also, I want to note that Brandon Sanderson hosts a convention called Dragonsteel every year at Salt Palace. I feel like he could host the con at the shopping/dining/castle area.

Laura Torlaschi

It's so witch of the village codded thing to come to you knowing which you are and say "you have a lovely voice, you should do audio books"🧙‍♀️ and LEAVE like she put a curse on you🤣 old crone core

Raphael Caetano

I’ve worked in a haunt as a scare actor and it’s hell. Asking someone to do it for free is insane

Abigail

The last of Evernote’s petty cash was used to pay to ship antique stained glass windows to finally finish the church for the park’s funeral.

T. Fazekas

It gives MLM boss babe.

Carrie

I hope that Management Q&A went straight to an employment lawyer. Jesus

Amanda M

Evermore makes me think of Boomtown. It is a similar concept with attendees interacting with actors across multiple districts located out of time. Except it is a music festival. They have to rebuild it in a cow field each year but, the immersion looks wild. I recommend falling down the rabbit hole with them as well. They just did a storyline reset due to the pandemic but, the pre-pandemic storyline was out there. There were ARGs and videos during the off season to set up the next story. There was even a devious mayor storyline like Evermore.

Unsettling NPC

So accurate! The retaliation trap is beyond intentional and management sees it as a way to weed the “non-loyalists” out. It’s so culty.

princess scar scar

Man, the lady saying "Oh the actors just like to complain!" or whatever she said feels so much like all the interactions I've had in menial jobs with a member of middle management who likes to put out the cheerful "My office is always open, come to me with any problems!" persona and then when you show up to try to resolve a problem they just find a way to blame it all on you so they don't have to do anything.

Eric Houge

I write murder mysteries for friends to act out at parties and so many of the clips of stories you show at Evermore remind me of the overly convoluted first drafts that I have to carefully edit and pare down to be understandable to normal people. Editing is important!!

Emily Reynolds

where is Bob??

arianna

I cannot get enough of you talking about Evermore. It is by far my favorite saga.

Tence Bakpao

Yes, I would love to see a more casual video like 5 nights at Freddy’s or anything else really. The epic videos are great but I miss the short casual stuff you used to do too.

Brent Knudsen

tagging in here as a person who lived in SLC for half a decade and went to evermore twice (once shortly after it opened)... the haunted houses in utah are overall solid (shoutout specifically to Nightmare on 13th!), but evermore was disappointing and lackluster even when it was at its best.

Stephanie Low

Honestly there is so much kitsch in the Dells that I feel like Jenny would get a kick out of.

Mel Curtis

Hey just found Jenny's Patreon, this is great I thought she retired or something, every few years I'd watch her stuff on YouTube and now I finally get to find out what happened to Evermore.

Kevin Heater

I would *absolutely* watch a yearly Evermore video

Dr. Most Beautiful Duck

As a local I wonder if it's still worth going for the last few days it'll probably be open 🤔

Grimveldt

if there is a "wrong way" or "wrong time" to go to a themepark, thats on the park not the customer haha Thanks for a fantastic surprise 2.5 hour video!! I could listen to you ramble for hours

Ola Sarcasm

Yeah, usually going on the wrong day means you went during the busiest day of the year and weren't able to do anything because of crowds. Not that you went during a normal day where the park was operating with standard procedures.

Cola

I love hearing what you have to say about Evermore. And I'd also love to hear what you have to say about FNAF!

Julianna Chianelli

I feel like the weird ghost story is based on one of Hans Christian Anderson’s works. I don’t remember the tile, has anyone else heard of it?

Audrey lopata

I love your Nevermore updates, one of my favorites patreon videos of yours!! I understand some people might be tired of it but I also like some topic less then others so it's only natural.

lonelyPirate

In Ashland, VA there’s a haunt place called Red Vein that’s a pet project for a lot of well known makeup/special effects artists. They do a different theme every year for Halloween and Christmas. The Halloween theme this year was a 90s rave turned werewolf pack that attacks the ravers. The Christmas theme this year is Krampus! I try to make it to both events every year even though I’m out of town. Happy to talk about previous seasons if anyone is curious :)

Kasey Miller

would love to see a FNAF video!

Riso Valroy

you should totally do a fnaf video i really like those kinds of your older videos

venipede

Some MagiQuest locations did have actors! Not for the FMV role since I guess that would be difficult to keep up with so many guests needing your attention at the same time, but going there as a kid (at the standalone locations, not at Great Wolf Lodge ones lol) I remember the staff wore costumes and tried to speak in character when you would ask them where to find a certain component for a quest. I haven't been in a long time so I can't say if they still do this at some locations though. The big one in Myrtle Beach where I first went as a kid was the most immersive, with stuff you could point your wand at all along the boardwalk outside the building too, but it closed sadly :(

SeptSapphire

It reminds me of Star Citizen.

Jesse Henton

plzzzzz do a fnaf video it would make my life good

picture posts

I often wanted to post the same thing, so I’m glad you did. The holidays are my roughest time of year, so being able to put on Jenny and listen to her talk so hilariously about spiders or something non-holiday related is such a huge lift during a difficult time of year. And I agree, thank you to Jenny and also her many cool fans on here.

Keith Hasperg

I am utterly fascinated by the saga of Evermore. And Ken's complete lack of soul. I'd honestly up my pledge if there was more. It's a topic that has everything: hubris, dragons, and rank incompetence.

James D.

I love your deep dives into Evermore because at this point the “lore” around it has become its own epic drama—paralleling (Class) Action Park from decades ago! I wonder if there are any other parks/attractions out there with equally crazy stories waiting to be discovered…👀 And to your ending question—would love to see shorter reaction-style videos in between your big projects!! I have to tell myself (a perfectionist artist…on the side—gotta pay rent!) that even half finished sketches make money. They may not be a multi-day masterpiece, but most people eat them up and love the “authenticity” Anyway, don’t hold yourself back by not posting more casual/shorter videos if you want! Sometimes the raw/first draft ideas are the ones that people find most compelling/beautiful/entertaining! ❤️

Joe Milligan

I legit can't imagine who would have the patience and interest to do this job OTHER THAN dedicated DnD folks.

BestStressed

I loled

BestStressed

COVID is going around again and I really hope Jenny isn't getting it! D:

BestStressed

The offhand reference to the idea of "the equivalent of Halloween scare mazes for Christmas" intrigues me. Somebody should do that. Scare actors dressed as Santa Claus. Brightly lit rooms full of tinsel and inflatable snowmen. Christmas music playing at full blast. There could even be licensed mazes at Six Flags that are themed after famous Christmas movies, so park employees dressed as Will Ferrell in Elf jump out and scream in your face.

Steven Clark

“If TV shows were written like this”…isn’t that basically the original 1960s Dark Shadows?

Lazlo Nibble

Before watching the video I assumed "The Ghost of Evermore" was the title Evermore employees had given you in their hushed conversations

Martin G

His company is also buying up all the land around Evermore

Nathaniel Lovin

Does anyone have a link to that Evermore Q&A?

Angelica Benitez

I LOVE this drama between Evermore and you!!! It's my FAVORITE internet beef.

Not Your Normal Guy Theme Parks

loved this video! this was so telling we got so much more info from the inside of evermore i was losing it when they mentioned you. A fnaf video sounds awesome!

Ace Cousin

PLEASE A FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S VIDEO....this is like a dream of mine jenny meets fnaf

Birdie

pleaseeeee five nights at freddy video lol

Austen Ariniello

Brandon Sanderson actually just made an announcement that he's interested in building a kind of tourist area themed around his company. Doesn't exactly sound like a theme park, but it features an old-looking castle so Evermore could be a place they have an eye on for building. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L8iJpikvSE&t=286s

KaptainMorgan

HI BOB

Clairm

I saw some popular dnd cosplayers doing a little dance in my fyp and I instantly recognized the dragons head from the tavern at evermore!!! So I guess that answers ur whose making content there questions!

Celia

I'm only halfway through the video, but can I point out how absolutely bonkers it is to hear their management say "We like to plan things out way way way in advance which is why we're already planning for our 2024 year" in August of 2023?? Maybe it's just my frame of reference since I work in finance (which is obviously pretty different from small theme park management), but most healthily-functioning companies have roadmaps for at least the next three years - and more commonly 5-10 years - that they revisit every year to either ensure they're on track or figure out why they're off track to 1. fix it to get back on schedule or 2. retool the roadmap to be more realistic if fixing it isn't possible. The fact that they consider planning for 2024 when they're already 2/3 of the way through 2023 as "planning way in advance" is such an enormous red flag that I had to rewind the video to make sure I didn't mishear her say 2025 somehow. This is also putting aside the fact that planning four months ahead for a theme park that heavily relies on storytelling and interactive actors to provide an experience for customers is so obviously not enough time to create a compelling story, write guidelines for actors (and scripts for the scripted parts), design costumes if needed, acquire decorations / set pieces to help with the atmosphere, and everything else that I'm not even thinking of because I'm not the one who's working in management at a theme park! It's genuinely kind of impressive how Evermore is managing to screw up every possible element of running an even semi-functioning company - like Ken was successful in the past, was he just sorta hands-off with the management of his other projects and more competent people handled the operations? Did he just get lucky? Is running a theme park just a vastly different endeavor to any other kind of business? I need answers and I'm never going to get them TT_TT Sorry for the comment rant - I work in project management which involves a lot of long-term roadmap development and shorter-term project planning, hearing that one sentence shook me to my core and I need to make other people understand because holy shit

noah

Just fell down a rabbit hole looking into this, it seems like so much fun! If anyone has been I'd love to hear about it.

Becca H

Your impression of an adorkable evermore actor was so on point it was nauseating to listen to, great job

L Stutt

And thats exactly the stuff that ( a lot) of dnd players love! It seems like they keep hiring managers who are bad at organizing, actors who are bad at improv, and writers who are bad at writing escape-room style small stories.

Sarah

on my [redacted] rewatch/listen of the trilogy, i think a big problem is that they want very individual Characters with DnD-PlayerCharacter worth of Backstory and agency, but also a big dramatic story, and also the guests are supposed to be the player characters. Most people would probably be happy with a renfaire level of character archetypes and a setting of 'generic fantasy but we also have steampunk because its fun'. Then the actors could have more freedom to do improv and do little things with each other (maybe the tavernkeeper has beef with the pirate queen. it doesn'z have to affect anything, but it could be fun to ask around and get different characters opinion) .

Sarah

Not writing a storyline because they were burnt out and it's hard is insane reasoning to me. Hire someone else, or get another person to help write it! This is such an integral part of your park's identity!

Emma S

seeing as this will be your last evermore vid for a bit, it’s just so crazy to think about how much potential this park had. people love the ren faire and want to have a place they can escape to and they fumbled so bad. my local ren faire is awesome, and while there are many i assume employees there, almost everyone is in character. evermore just tried to create so much lore that isn’t tangible to all visitors. they could keep the lore about what evermore is and the portals lore or whatever that all is. people obviously want to have a similar dnd adjacent and feel like they are on a journey but i think that is an experience that is more or less impossible to recreate in such a small environment. such a shame!!! but ren faires reign supreme with their yelling men selling pickles

Greta

love jenny rambling about her personal experience with kanye west's bbq affinity in the middle of an evermore video absolutely incredible

Jayden Nguyen

you are my comfort youtuber. this month has been rough, as is for most people during the holidays when deadlines are closing in. i've missed your videos and decided to subscribe to your patreon once i realized you post other videos here. not to sound parasocial, but thank you for always being here, i rewatch your videos a ton and im so glad you post here.

Morgan Rowley

The fact that this season pass costs more than the gold Dollywood pass that gets you so much more is crazy.

Cynthia

this is art

Bob

“I’ve been a Patreon subscriber just to keep eyes on the Evermore situation.” I laugh as Jenny makes a funny face and begin to rub my weary eyes. My hands instinctively recoil as they meet a foreign shape. They begin to shake as I look with these unfamiliar eyes upon hands that are not my own. “He’s among us! You guys, he’s here!” Her words barely making it through the panic overtaking my body. I sprint to the bathroom and without daring to look in the mirror, turn the faucet on and begin splashing water on my face. As my dripping hands explore a foreign face, desperately searching for anything familiar, a flash of memories. A tripod, a camera, a manager without media training sitting next to me. Questions. viewers. Blacklists. “This can’t be possible!” I try to talk myself into believing. “I’ve never been to Evermore. I haven’t even been in Utah state lines and over a decade.” But these statements fail to convince me, and like Quincy during the Convergence, all other possibilities disappear before I can engage with them. I slowly tilt my head to look in the mirror and confirm the horrible truth I already know: I was Bob the entire time.

Woody Sims

nice name

Casey Ringer

You, in particular, doing a Five Nights at Freddy's video sounds fantastic. You doing a horror video game sounds ironic. But it is about an animatronic restaurant, which is technically among your specialties.

Scotty

I'm quite literally begging you to make a fnaf video

Gemma

yes please fnaf!

R.G. Nairam

YES! Five Nights of Freddy video please!

arnique

Jenny, I can't believe you did six hours of Evermore videos and only now mentioned they have novels for some reason.

Daniel Ringer

a fnaf video would make people go so insane, if you want to do it you definitely should! thank you for another amazing video thank you for all the work you put in:)

alex

Omg I lost it when she read "ozymandias nodded"

Travis Jackson

Evermore using AI generated images on their website and audiodrama is truly exactly what I expected they would do

Lise K

Please do a Five Nights at Freddie's video!

O

just so you're aware, Brandon Sanderson just announced plans to build a themed bookstore in Utah. they said it's in early development and that they're still looking for land to purchase in the Utah county area (the area Evermore is located). they didn't mention Evermore by name, but their plans for the area surrounding it was ambitious enough I wouldn't be surprised if they're considering that spot

David Pew

I'd love to see a fnaf video, the movie was such a weird mix of fun ban and bad bad

Jacob A Trepczyk

Not only is it astonishing how bad she made the park look, the Q+A woman reminds me of many managers I've had. The type of person who will step on the employees under her and throw them under the bus in order to raise her own standing. I thought Bob really sucked for just accepting all of her answers uncritically until I remembered she is his boss, I guess. The whole thing is so bizarre.

nomchonks

jenny i would like to say that a fnaf video would be wonderful and if you want to do it please do! thank you <3

brenda

I recently joined your patreon because I wanted more Evermore trainwreck videos so I'm glad to see you excited to talk more about it, and possibly create more Evermore content in the future.

A T

Ken making his professional business statements via personal FB is soooooo Utah

Peyton

Thanks for the additional Evermore tea! I'm not tired of it at all! But I would enjoy a FNAF quick video if you were excited about it! Looking forward to Starcruiser when you feel able to finish. :-)

Nadia Wheeler

I'd get used to it and then remember it and be so amused all over again

Elyse

The Q&A is a genuinely jaw-dropping combination of what are clearly the "party line" turns of phrase responding to real criticism (i.e. "outdated" observations) mixed with what feels like thoughtless honesty. The lack of media training is so real and it comes off defensive. I get why when you're *all in* but like...clearly this isn't working Ken!!! Do something actually different, like fix your attitude!

Elyse

Are there any plans to release a preview for the Star Cruiser video? I got really excited when you said last time that it would be out in November. And I know you're busy but a preview would really make my day. You posting a video is really a highlight of my month.

Tiffany Webb

S+ has got to be maxwell

Ash D

I enjoy the Evermore updates and yes please to the FNAF video!

Michelle

It might be: Bonus: The Return to Evermore that was posted a few months back, it's listed in the stickied comment or it's one of the last couple videos

Ted Koutz

Omg pls give me yearly evermore updates, I have just binge watched all three videos and have such a morbid interest in this stupid park

call-me-mothman

This might be the most important video in the trilogy hearing from the park what’s actually going on inside. And to see them directly shade Jenny and her reaction to it was amazing and hilarious. Would love to see a FNAF video, even if it’s negative. I really liked the movie and I’d love to know your thoughts on it!

Grizzly Reviews

I gasped multiple time during this one, ESPECIALLY the live QnA. Big Evermore Brother is watching, spooky!!!

Naorée

where’s the new evermore video she referenced?

Lily

Yeah, I seem to remember she mentioned in a past ramble that she filmed a bunch of content on TN tourist spots! Would definitely be cool to see, though I can also understand if it seems too outdated now :(

Lindsay

FNAF video would be so fun! Also this video was fantastic.

bramblepaws

You being directly shaded in an video from evermore people is just wild and killing me

Matt Bonacci

i am glad im not alone here

Lex

It's wild that people think that going on the wrong day is not a direct sign of a failing business

Caio Santos

I 100% wanna hear your thoughts on the fnaf movie. Especially if they're gonna be in the same vein as ur creepypasta videos where you say what you think works and what Doesn’t.

MacButchPro

YESS MORE evermor

Caio Santos

Ok, the MagiQuest mention got me very excited and hopeful for a Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg related video. It's my fav tourist trap and I would love to see Jenny do a video about it. Also thank you for the continued evermore content, it is getting me thru med school finals prep rn

maculous

I'm glad we got that villain tier list, finally! F Tier: Current management D Tier: Previous management C Tier: Management before them B Tier: The skullduggerous Beldam A Tier: Ken S Tier: That dude wearing Tip-Top's skin

Captain Langosta AKA The Yellow Dart AKA Kyle

I will always watch a new Evermore video

Samantha McClain

i will never get tired of evermore videos it’s at a point where after almost every video i watch youtube autoplays the evermore video bc they know i will watch it in full and i will do so every single time

bunny!

Would love an FNAF video! Specifically your thoughts on the animatronics??? I loved the movie personally and am curious on your thoughts

Logan

fnaf video sounds so fun!!!

cara hughes

I think a five nights at freddy's video sounds so interesting!!

Samantha Castelli

i need a poster of the cover of that ebook novella

Ash D

i, like many, am eternally pro-evermore content. also strongly pro-FNAF video!!!

Sarah Dunavant

Right? And that Bob thought her one-off joke in the Avatar water park video about that being her Evermore was an earnest comment on her part lol. Just a lot of delusion or outright lies all around

Lindsay

My jaw is on the floor with the sexual assault section of the livestream. I am very sorry for all the current and former employees who clearly are not working in a remotely safe environment.

Liz Jones

I love hearing about evermore shenanigans, you think it’s hit its peak and just keeps getting wilder

Zane

Agreed. I get it back when there were more involved stories and actors because you could either be one of the fans that got to have a lot of influence or delude yourself into thinking that you'd GET to be one of those fans, but now there's like, nothing to latch onto.

Markus D

It's that first one; a lot of fans are kids and teens. The concept started off as good for an indie game, even though the plot was contrived, because you weren't meant to think about it, but eventually it got stupidly convoluted and stopped being an effective horror story.

Markus D

The Bob among us reveal was a WILD turn

LilacSunflower6

I miss your old random relatively shorter videos, so I'd definitely be interested in a FNAF video.

IShallRiseAgain

I would LOVE a FNAF Video from you. Not just because I'd like to hear your take on the super confusing Lore, but also because you really love Animatronics and you bring in a lot of knowledge about that. Haven't really seen someone talk about FNAF from that angle yet. As for Evermore the entire story is just fascinating for me. I don't think I'd be ever bored of it. I completely understand not wanting to make a video on it for a while now, if only to not burn out yourself on that topic.

SoWasWieEinFan

It's wild that he tries to defend it while releasing video that makes it look like a dumpster fire.

Iris

why not?

Iris

Love the idea that when this Victorian family's child died, they gave the other kid not just a doll but a VENTRILOQUIST'S DUMMY of their deceased twin. Also, I'm very disappointed they didn't word-for-word copy the origin of the evil dummy from Goosebumps.

Monica McFadden

Bring the FNAF! Also, I don't get tired of the Evermore story since it is quite a fascinating one.

Sara Hjertkvist

FNAF video sounds fun!!

Ziede

I called immediate- IMMEDIATE bull when he said Meow Wolf. I can't believe anyone would even SAY that, let alone believe it...

Becky

I hope you do go back every year. I will literally watch all of your Evermore content at least three times. There's something about Evermore and the way you discuss it that I find incredibly compelling; maybe because it feels like such an exciting and immersive idea but it's just not executed well, so it fires my imagination but doesn't give me FOMO for not actually going. But I've also seen videos online of glimpses of what I wish it was: beautiful locations (shot at night, as you've rightly pointed out, since that works best), compelling character interactions, complex stories guests can be part of. I do hope that Evermore does at least one more season like that and that you're able to go, though from the sound of things it's a little less and less every time as they lose money and public interest/goodwill. :( Still, for as long as there is an Evermore, I have hope, and I think that's what these videos both feed and comfort (since they make me feel I'm not actually missing the magical experience I'm imagining).

Gel D

I'll never be tired of evermore, would LOVE a yearly video

Ella B

We want the fnaf!!!!!!

Nick Oswalt

I had no idea Brandon Sanderson wants to open his own bookstore, but I love your hypothetical EverSander fusion

Towers of Hanoi

The picture really looks like Kanye to me

Tzivia Kleinbart

a ) i'll never be tired of hearing about evermore b ) omg yes please do a five nights at freddy's video

carlee elizabeth

Trapped on an island with Bob from Evermore...

Franki Lew

Not even much of a larper myself but Dickens fair is so cool! So atmospheric. I'm sorry to hear anyone gets hurt when it comes to stuff that's supposed to be fun like cosplay like that.

Franki Lew

You should invest in a top to spin.

James Palermo

Yea i struggled to maintain my calm during that.

James Palermo

that q&a portion was surreal. like obviously they knew about your videos but how absurd to be a theme park and publicly address it, and to do so in this really unprepared format.

Lauren Jorges

The woman in the livestream saying that if your evermore video had come out a week later the suggestions you made would have already been would have been done is so funny. Like you JUST made those changes the week that video came out? And that's just a coincidence?

Mac Monkeyhat

The lady in the livestream.. is that the same woman as those Evermore videos with the puppets? She sounds familiar. Also, I'd love to see a FNAF video! It's got that theme park/restaurant situation so your take on it would probably be really interesting :)

Machati

hi, bob!

god’s favorite sacrificial lamb

honestly i had a good laugh in the return to evermore video when you said you were scared to show your face because i was like, jenny, you’re acting like they have your face up in the back with PUBLIC ENEMY NO 1 written above it……but clearly they kinda do!

god’s favorite sacrificial lamb

i for one love evermore content

Douglas Savage

i would love to see you make a fnaf video! i know from your twitter youre not familiar with the games and as someone who also isnt i think that perspective makes it like 50x funnier so i think it would be great content

Uspre

Project Managers are like, the DMs of the office world. A thankless job, everyone thinks they could do it better, but if you don't have one, NOTHING GETS DONE.

Sarah

I am like a small Victorian orphan going door to door begging for Evermore scraps to feast upon, and Jenny has provided a hardy thanksgiving meal. There is literally no end to my hunger for more Evermore content, it is just such a baffling story.

Sunny

I also would love a FNAF vid! I’m interested in all scary movies, and so those tend to be my favorite vids of yours, when there’s anything remotely scary involved.

Keith Hasperg

Oh also, the Q&A reactions to talking about the Convergence were so weird. Even if they didn't consider it their event, the park's buildings were closed to guests with no actors during VIP days, right? Are they suggesting that that's all Quincy's fault and he didn't actually reserve the park's actors for the two VIP days? Wish we could get a clear answer on that but pretty weird either way. I don't understand their nonchalance at throwing away free advertising like that while also thinking it doesn't impact Evermore's reputation if an event like that goes sour.

Xylia Stargazer

Great video! I loved watching it, but oh my god, I don't think I could watch the part with the manager again. Just so sad and aggravating to hear about those issues from the general manager and no suggestions to do anything about it besides a blacklist it takes multiple strikes to get on. Would love a FNAF video though!

Xylia Stargazer

I'd like to see a FNAF video just so I can finally understand what people see in that franchise. In every horror movie discord I'm in there are always like obsessive FNAF fans comparing it to classic horror and saying things like "it's better than anything Stephen King ever wrote" and it takes everything I have to stay my hand. Either these people are all 13 years old or this franchise must be the best thing since sliced bread.

TalkieSoundBox

You’re telling me there was a rumour that Kanye West was going to invest in the park that had a feud with Taylor Swift? I wonder why people believed that

Polly Flores

Building onto the impossible but lovely dream: if Evermore merged with Magiquest, you could introduce different classes. Instead of only wands, you could have short swords, tiny bows, daggers, lutes, a tiny imp (for warlocks) and so forth. Straight up build off Evermore's existing guilds. Regulars could then collect the different merch and quests for the classes. It'd be LARPing at a new level. That'd be so much fun.

Abba Slurm

i would LOVE to see a fnaf video

mikey reid-cain

I can never get enough of the rather good but not quite convincing English accents

Rolf Regensburg

I’ll never be tired of Evermore and yes 100% do the FNAF video!!

Laura H

Me watching videos about Jenny watching videos about Bob watching Jenny make videos about Bob's workplace... makes me wonder if someone's watching me type this

Tim Price

yes please talk about fnaf!!

Chelsea

PLEASE do the five nights at freddies video

Holly L

WE WANT NUMBERS, QUINCY!

Frank McCormick

please jenny do a fnaf vid

adora

fascinating. like a train wreck

Dylan Maleno

Thanks for the vid Jenny. I would love a five nights at freddy's video

Millie

Thanks for another great video Jenny. We know it takes hours and always enjoy your stuff!

Petie

Though, I did wonder-- if the park really is telling the truth about the Convergence and they had nothing to do with ticket sales, wouldn't that mean that they weren't the ones selling the $1k tickets, and they wouldn't have been offering them to influencers for free to get free advertising? (Not sure I believe them when they say that, but Jenny seemed convinced that them only being involved as a venue wouldn't mean they weren't involved in the scammy parts of the operation, and I wasn't sure if there's something I missed, since to my understanding the ticket prices were (primarily) the scammy part of the whole thing.)

Mickey

While I personally agreed that animatronics was a better fit for the season, and that an Evermore video would be more appropriate in a month or two, I absolutely was not disappointed by this video! The live stream alone made it worth it. My jaw was on the floor pretty much that whole section just... yikes. I almost feel bad for the park rep. I don't think Ken thinks things through enough to intentionally designate someone as a scapegoat (the rest of that clip about the set design guy really sheds some light on the type of person Ken likely is to me), but that is what is essentially happening. I get the feeling she has worked with the park for a while, but I also get the feeling that she not only hasn't done media training, but that her customer service experience is probably limited to basic things, and nothing that requires more nuance (like a guest services position). Because in positions that require any degree of nuance you learn that you've often gotta couch what you're saying so that either what you're saying is possibly taken better, or so that it isn't taken the wrong way. And it's clear that while she is well spoken the rep just...does not have experience navigating those kinds of things on likely even a smaller level, much less on a larger scale (like acting as an official rep in media appearances). But even beyond that, stuff like openly admittedly the park has a huge issue with guests' assault of actors that likely has been a problem since day one and has continued to this day, and openly addressing Jenny's video (at least in this casual a manner) are beyond unbelievable to me. Then of course there's Bob's entire character arc in this video, only to find him in these comments. Genuinely wild.

Mickey

(I would love an fnaf video.) It was really fun to see MagiQuest! There used to be a standalone one in the town I grew up in, and it was my favorite place ever--I completed all the quests and got as much merch as my parents would allow me to spend my money on. I think I even got one of those wand holsters. I was never brave enough to dress up but always wanted to, so MagiQuest in a place where cosplay is expected would be a dream for me!

Madison Nuss

Yess like this is another movie he could act out in the island ❤️

Skylar

I don't really keep up with reddit(s) so idk who you're talking about but I have heard that several times about going right after covid. I think at one time I also believed it was true cause I kept hearing it lol. Probably because the time of my visit was pretty shortly after things opened back up for californians, the vaccines had just become widely available, so it was the first season since their reopening that I could do non-emergency travel. I think I expressed that poorly in my video. But yeah I think in actuality they only ever closed for like 3-6 months of 2020, in fact I think the Carpetbagger video I used clips of was shot in like summer 2020 because everyone was still halfheartedly trying to mask per county requirements. So by the time I visited it was like their 3rd or 4th season of being reopened

Jenny Nicholson

Ok, Editor Jenny’s summary of the skull situation was one of her funniest moments…BEWARE!

Keith Hasperg

A Five Night's at Freddy's video would be REALLY good I feel

Scott Carter

Sorry, had to skip the whole Discord chat section of this video, I cannot stand hearing "managers" be so disingenuous. "I wasn't here when it happened so I can't speak to that." "Will it happen again?" "No!". These people are genuinely so brainless they don't even realize they display their lies so clearly. I grew up thinking people like this were trying to be clever or devious, but it looks like they're just flat-out mentally dysfunctional.

Who Are These People

Was the gaslighter the the random guy on the Jenny subreddit who kept insisting that Jenny's video was filmed the day Evermore reopened after Covid? That dude would not shut up and was just wrong. Was he the park gaslighter? He also insisted that the second visit was all Quincy's fault. Repeatedly.

Brett Lassoff

I was thinking of Trapped in an Island with Josh Hutcherson the whole time I watched FNAF. I would loooove a video on it!

Kristine Kristensen

i honestly love the evermore content and i really appreciate how much you focus on actor safety in ur criticisms!! also idk if you’ve ever heard of a haunted house called the darkness? but it seems like you’d rly like some of the animatronics/puppets in the scare maze

evie sligh

loved this video a lot!! thank you for the updates!!! i would KILL to hear a fnaf video from you!!

lunatalks

Right now I'm about 1.5 hours in and in the middle of the video with the manager. It is wild that not only do they have someone with no media relations experience giving official statements on behalf of the park, but that they either did it as a live stream or filmed the video and thought "yeah, that's good, put it out". That absolutely should have been filmed ahead of time and reviewed before releasing it. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we got it. But from a business perspective it is beyond shocking that it is an official, sanctioned video put out by Evermore.

Kyle Williams

„The Illusion of Building a Theme Park“ by Ken Bretschneider: Learn all the secrets to the „fake it till you make it“ method and (Ever)more! …Although it would probably have to be a what-not-to-do and pitfalls book for it to be credible and have a shot at the New York Times bestseller list (: Maybe then there will be enough money to revive his theme park?

Mandarin

Bretschneider is such a perfect example of the Idea Guys who float around any creative field shouting about how if THEY were in charge they'd totally make the most badass thing ever and show all those dummies how it's done. Turns out when one of those guys actually has the money to take a swing at it he does stupid stuff like blow the entire budget on real gravestones because actually making a theme park/movie/game/etc takes a lot more than just a cool idea. I'm not surprised he responds to criticism by lashing out and moaning about cancel culture or whatever; I'm sure he'll spend the rest of his life thinking Evermore failing to catch on was everyone's fault but his own.

Evan

Mad respect to that actor for selling it as best he could

Ann Parker

And it seems like people may not be aware that sexist intent doesn't have to be there for it to be illegal. Like even if all the male candidates negotiated up and the female ones didn't, if the net result is men being paid more than women for doing the same job, you're still opening up to a lawsuit.

Ann Parker

I never get tired of Evermore videos! And YES to a Five Nights at Freddy’s video!

Val

Literally

Erin Dugan

On the subject of pay inequality, it's really bad in Utah. Men earn 37% more than women on average. And among BYU graduates specifically, men earn 90% more than women. It's egregious. And it's really sad to see a Utah based woman pretending it's not happening. The general ignorance about this situation is a part of what perpetuates it.

Franquette

Alnwick I'm guessing? I once spent several hours clearing pondweed out of a pond in their garden as "volunteering" so the Evermore parallels are oddly apt...

Thom Kitimat

in my home town in the uk, what has been described as 'the world's biggest play park' has recently opened. it's themed as an 'elven village' (but is supposed to have houses associated with multiple clans of fantasy creatures??) and at one point the gimmick was supposed to be that it was 'christmas all year' until they realised that was dumb. it's basically our very own evermore but what's extra fun and weird about it is that instead of a former tech ceo, it was built by a literal duchess who lives in the castle next door to where the playpark is (a castle that was famously used as a filming location for harry potter) so it's kind of like a cross between evermore park and marie antoinette's hamlet at versaille in that its a fantasy village she built on the grounds of her castle. also, she stated she wanted to build it to 'get those damn kids off their phones' (her words paraphrased) which is pretty funny to me. the reviews have been pretty bad so far, there have been injuries and also its almost entirely staffed by local teens who dress up as elves to interact with the kids. it has been a fascination for me to watch and hear about its development (there's even been a weird propoganda-y 'documentary' on british tv following the duchess as she develops it) and when the first evermore video dropped, me and my friends were all joking about the similarities.

sappho's scullery maid

fnaf video sounds fun!

spookylinguini

I'm 100% here for Evermore-related content.

Collin Vickers

FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S!!!!!!!!!!

Spublii

It kind of baffles me that there are still diehard fans of evermore. How have they not become disillusioned by all of its bs ?? It doesn’t even seem like a very fun place to go lol

Day

I don't have words for my reaction to that Q&A. The amount of times I audibly gasped in pure horror listening to the things that woman said... I mean, some of it because I was shocked at her mean spiritedness in some of her comments like the "too bad for you" remark, but also because of the things that she described happening, and the statistics she was presenting, and the stuff she talked about happening to her, holy shit. I think in the end I can only really feel bad for her and how she's another person being exploited by this carnival huckster scheme of a theme park and one in a line of workers mistreated and traumatized by it while also being forced to be the public face and speak for it. Good lord. I mean I don't know that she's being forced maybe she sincerely volunteered but still, what a difficult position to be in. (also that overly convoluted ghost story is genuinely the funniest shit ever omg I think the way the actor presents it so seriously just makes it better)

Lambda34Delta

Yes, please do FNAF!

Fiona

i would adore a fnaf video!!!

Sydney Horses

Hi Bob

Braden

@evermore bob what do u have to say for yourself 🎤🎤🤨 also yes pls x1000 to FNAF vid :-)

Caroline

do they have a show writer? how is it simultaneously so clear that nothing has been planned but also crazily draconian in its plot developments?? why not give the actors a real monologue for the finale (and even some stock lines for everyday interactions) so that they don’t just ramble inaudibly about stuff that happened offscreen?

Mike Musker

LOVED THIS LONG VIDEO!

TwinSauce

fnaf yes!

Mike Musker

YESSS FNAF VIDEO YES!!!!!

roo

Did anyone else notice around 2:18:56 there's a girl that looks to be dressed up as Greg from over the garden wall during the Evermore livestream! Totally random but I love that show and thought that was cute lol

amnesty.lodge

This is pretty old but I would love to hear your thoughts on Patrick Spikes and his interrogation video when he was caught for the Buzzy theft. I know you did a video before they caught him so it be interesting to hear you speak about afterwards

David Arroyo

More Evermore please

David Arroyo

I'm normally like that, but I have a positive interest in Jenny's content and I'm pretty sure she's only thinking of covering the movie and not looking to have a researched deep dive into the games.

Markus D

evermore? more like everless 😤

Tomasz Ogrodowski

I will never get tired of evermore content Alsoooo scrolling through all these comments to see if Bob popped in definitely paid off 👀

MLC

The amount of weird twists in this video omg. That skull story sounds like a kid playing pretend, especially with the affected accent lmao

Lindsey Keefer

I'd definitely be interested in a FNAF video, even as somebody who knows next to nothing about the franchise- your videos on new films are always fun. It would also be nice to see some Christmassy content at some point, although maybe it's too short notice at this point. Not that my opinion on these things counts for much, just make whatever kinds of videos you're passionate about. :P

Oliver Mumford

The call was coming from inside the house

Hempfancier

Okay, the management Q&A part is absolutely mind-boggling. It’s buck wild that somebody affiliated with the park would come out and say, “Oh yeah, sexual assault happens ALL the time here.”

Tristan Kernick

The star of this ramble was Jenny's fairy voice 😂 I watched that scene 10 times in a row it was amazing! Oh also if the FNAF vid happens I'd like to see Jenny try and dress as Chica with that evil cupcake thing.

Luis

still sad williams full potential wasn’t in the movie because his backstory n stuff is compelling

Munki

Hi Bob

Lucy J

as a huge fnaf fan for a long time a video on it from your perspective would be interesting especially since most parts of the movie i was thinking how much people who don’t know the franchise would be so confused

Munki

Fnaf 👎

Cattt

When I've gone to events with interactive actors, there are signs up at the entrance and in the park reminding guests that they are not allowed to touch the actors and that doing so will result in immediate expulsion from the event. The local amusement park does a big Halloween event every year with multiple haunted houses, and you get a spiel from the door person at every haunted house with the reminder not to touch the actors. One guy was like, "You may not touch the actors. The actors may not touch you physically, but they may touch you emotionally." Like, they're very clear about it, and that's not really that hard to communicate.

Anna O.

Hi Bob! I understand trying to defend and stand up for the park. But the park is a mess and will never get fixed because there is no money to fix it. And the way to do the storytelling is a time loop. Where everyone can perform the same act each day and repeat guests can view other actors performing to get more of the story. And it can still build to a finale.

RonLad

Oof, the candid discussion of how people at the park were mistreated by guests (and how ultimately little the park was doing about it) was so hard to listen to. "Our actors have PTSD from working here" is an insane thing to have to say (and like you mentioned, it's extra insane that she's saying it as an official representative of the company interacting with press)

Morgan Venkus

so down for a fnaf video

Wyatt Crouse

As someone who works in continuing TV drama - yeah, people burn out all the time! Jenny is right, they plan for that and get more people in! It's a very strange excuse to be like "long form storytelling is simply too hard we had to give up" when shows have run for DECADES. Speaking of, knowing the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes of even quite chaotically plotted shows makes Evermore's "just throw any old shit at the wall" approach genuinely professionally stressful.

Just Helen, but also, Indecision

I mean I just narrated multiple paragraphs from Evermore Historium: Coins of the Revenant: Book 1: Chapter 2

Jenny Nicholson

Okay I'm just at the part where you're reacting to the livestream and she's talking about stuff that's happened to the actors. Which I'm very sorry for, that's gross, and if the percentage is that high it's mind blowing the park has done nothing to fix that very real problem besides apparently give their actors a speech about not interacting with fan pages, but anyway I digress. The thing that caught my attention is that she said she started as an actor and was then promoted, and other people in management were in the same position, and I just have to rant about this for a second because this is a problem I've run into in the workplace a lot lately. Promotion from within is not always a great idea for a business, and sure, it can be great if staff are given the proper training, but something I've noticed with the corporation I work for is that they like to promote from within so they can skirt around the up front cost of getting somebody with proper training for the position. The owners, or whoever is in charge, have favorite's and these are usually the people who end up getting promoted, and because they have no experience in management the company can get away with paying a lower wage because they're "in training" and they're also a lot easier to manipulate. It makes so much sense to me that Evermore would have a toxic promotion cycle like this because if they were to hire somebody who actually had training, experience, or education, they wouldn't put up with all the bullshit, and they would cost more, which is something the park needs, but also will probably never do. It just bugs me because it almost always ends up in the people being promoted having way too much responsibility thrust onto their shoulders with none of the proper preparation. I've seen so many people get promoted this way and then slowly dissolve into a withered shell of themselves because they're so stressed. It's notable too, that often times they were promoted in the first place because they were recognized by upper management as a hard worker, aka. somebody who will sacrifice for the company and be pushed around easily. Which means they're now in charge of fixing the mess they've been promoted into but they are still completely restricted by the instructions of the upper management who actually created the mess in the first place. Its a system that sets it's people up for failure and makes the turnover rate make so much sense.

Naomi

YES FNAF !!!!!

nina ♡

i will never be tired of evermore videos. i let out such a gasp of shock when bob said he was subbed to the patreon. hi, bob.

Sarah B

First of all, I would never get tired of yearly Evermore videos. I'm not even a theme park person, but the way you talk about them in general, and Evermore in particular, is so interesting. I also know nothing about five nights at freddy's except that it has scary animatronics and apparently lore? I'm not gonna watch the movie so your video would be my only real exposure to it. It sounds like the Starcruiser video has been such a slog to work on, so if you think it'd be nice to do something a little more casual, go for it!

Emma Nelson

Bob is literally amongus

Ren ☆

Please check out Wizard's Quest in the Wisconsin Dells someday!

Shauna Volkening

Watching you live-respond to people talking about you was awesome content. I hope it doesn't cause drama or anything.

PamperYamper

I’ll never tire of evermore

sam beach

Utah does have a renaissance festival, but it’s quite small. No real solid or permanent structures like I’ve seen at every other ren faire I’ve been to. When I last went to the Utah ren faire (a few years ago), it was mostly tents scattered along a trail. So there could definitely be a market for a more permanent and immersive setup like you describe.

Kalli Mago

I think a more casual approach to the facility would be a good place to start, with the anchor store/castle with interesting and fun grounds to walk in, free admission, as described by Jenny. With various vendors in the buildings, people might have reason to go there more often. I could imagine a farmers' market, florist, coffee shop. It's far less interesting, not really a theme park at all, but also a more reasonable goal. Is there a Renn fair in Utah already? Ours in Maryland has been profitable for 35 years I believe, and they are only open two months a year.

Kavi Montanaro

hi bob!!!

bluewolfie

Philadelphia mention!!! \o/

Bumblepuppy

DRAMA

Dip

I don't mind a yearly update but we had a 2.5 hour video just 3 months ago, and this was a monthly topic video. So basically, Evermore gets its own videos and then also hogs the space for the monthly videos. It obviously only happened once so it's just a bit annoying for me, and the video was fine. However, the topic is also becoming more 'generic company and generic company shenanigans' and less about a very specific theme park with very specific issues and very specific details. 'Evermore runs a Ponzi scheme, Evermore screws its employees.' That's basically any company.

Trystan

Yesss to FNAFFFF

Jason Hoskin

There can never be enough Evermore videos, I disagree with he naysayers in the vote's comment section intensely. I love every single one. A yearly Evermore update would be amazing!

James Walter-Smith

I'm obsessed with your ghost headband

Jamie

"one of the witch's skulls" needs to be tier

Gomgom Jimboi

more like.......nevermore...

thequeerquartz

I like the idea of building a castle as some sort of anchor point for the park, but I thought Jenny was going to keep on with suggesting, I don't know, some sort of Central Thoroughfare leading towards it from the front gate, or maybe off to the side a sci-fi area called Future Place

Ham

The first video of yours I ever watched was your Fantastic Beasts movie discussion - so I'd love to see a more casual FNAF video in that style!!

Freya Gill

1:58:20 "The Spider Queen"? Just me or is that a dig? What would Plush Aragog say?

Ham

yes fnaf!! I love the shorter vids about unhinged movies i haven't seen! (but i also love the long ones just as much : D)

Bridget

That was all Bob!

Jenny Nicholson

I do want those things

Jenny Nicholson

But are you going to narrate audiobooks

Ishaan Sahai

'I bought all of them and I skimmed all of them" is the faintest praise of all

Ham

I NEED MORE EVERMORE

Anon

I have zero knowledge or interest in FNAF.... so yeah by all means make a video and I'll end up watching it 20 times if the past is any indication

K2

Venture capital is weird.

Rob Fitzsimmons

Would love to see trapped in a fnaf with Josh Hutcherson

Jack Avalon

Evermore Bob being on here was a dramatic revelation.

FZA

fnaf video would be wonderful!! hope you didnt get too sick!!!!!

Kevin H

I think a FNaF review (or any movie review) like 20 minutes or less would be great and should appease some of the people who miss the shorter videos

Chase Cargal

Omg thank you for reminding me, that name sounded so familar lol

Rae Abigail

I would love to see a FNAF video!

Xandir

fnaf!

roffmo

all hail the evermore trilogy

Sarah Patterson

Meow Wolf (Santa Fe) does hire actors in the summer! They’re in amazing costumes, some dance, they mostly add atmosphere and make the space more alive.

Veronica

fnaf video yes please absolutely. good idea for multiple reasons: 1) topical 2) you get to talk about animatronics 3) i would like it (most important)

Abbie H

I don't mind a FNAF video. All I can say is every time my partner asks if there's a new Jenny video, and I say "no," she gets angrier and angrier. I don't know how much more anger she has left to muster.

Daniel (cat whisperer)

It is crazy to me that anyone could get tired of the downward spiral that is Evermore. Would love to see some more casual content if you’re up to it Jenny! I think if there’s something you’d have fun talking about, then you should do it, because I’m pretty sure we’d all enjoy watching it.

Moira Laidlaw

This is a really patronizing message to send to a stranger

KL

I'm so mad at all this Evermore content. Just hours upon hours upon hours of Evermore! It never ends! I had to cancel Thanksgiving plans. "Sorry Mom, she just won't stop making Evermore videos! Tell Dad I said hi."

Bryan Sutton

58:00 As an IT guy, you don't use wireless for high bandwidth applications, like video, in public settings, cause of interference. Too much consumer electronics in one place wreaks havoc with the unlicensed WiFi wireless spectrum. You'd have to use industry WiFi tech on licensed spectrum to escape the consumer electronics flood. And that's not cheap, nor easy to maintain.

tobo

i got jumpscared when you said the name "judge atkinson" cause i honest to god for a split second thought it was going to be judge adkins from troll

Chuuli

I had secondhand cringe so hard with the Q&A started talking about Jenny omg. Also, I love Meow Wolf and I think have commented in the past that they are a great example of how to do what Evermore tries to do better, but yeah I don't think they would buy Evermore, it's not their MO at all

MW

i know, i find it so hard to watch any clips like that from the park because the awkward energy and bad accents are just too much

Liz

At first I thought that witch story was a reference to the Baba Yaga because she is an old hag that has a fence decorated w/ skulls & "Evan" sounds pretty close to "Ivan." But then it just... went off the rails

Emily

Yes please regarding the FNAF video!! 🙏

Johanna Ecker

MagiQuest is incredible!! It definitely succeeds at what Evermore tries to do.

BagelBitez

I have such an acutely negative interest in anything FNAF related at all, so I will probably not watch it if you make it, but follow your dreams, y'know?

BeatButton

I’m personally not “tired” of Evermore, but the people side of the story is a bummer. People putting in extra unpaid work for a mess of a park. Weird stuff with actors calling out guests by name in a story. The lack of security and people being harassed in a park. The revolving door of people being fired or laid off. The details of how this park became a mess are funny and fascinating. The human story behind the park just sad. I like the idea of a yearly check in until the park eventually closes or gets sold off. I would be down for a FNAF video.

Michael

omg i did a magiquest once at a great wolf lodge as a kid! it's stuck out in my memory all these years because i really had a blast doing it, but i could never remember what it was called. thank you for the segment on it, i feel like part of my memory has fallen back into place!

Rachel Heiderscheidt

Ok, I love hearing more about evermore (clearly we're invested) BUT ALSO I SEE THAT MUSHROOM STOOL BACK THERE

Totesnotasheep

Yes please re: FNAF video

Courtenay Balvin

I worked at the Dickens Fair for a few years (funny to hear it come up haha), and the conversation about all the reports of bad behavior by guests was very interesting. There’s a certain amount of creepy guest behavior you can’t control in live theatre, but it sounds to me like almost no measures are being taken within Evermore to minimize these situations. For instance, it seems like Evermore has a really minimal, maybe even no backstage. That makes it really hard for actors to leave when a creepy guest interaction happens, because there are no easily accessible areas where patrons can’t go. That’s the sort of thing you need to think about when protecting your actors. Getting reports every single weekend with a cast of that size is ludicrous, and it won’t be solved by lecturing your actors about not talking on the fan Discord.

Natania

that's 100% kanye

Andrew van Baarsen

Make as much Evermore content as you want, I will happily follow this story to each increasingly sad ending.

Sean OLeary

This is WAY better than part 2.

Hedrigal

Jenny I want to be you when i grow up (I’m 27)

The Wizard Sprinkle

Yes please FNAF!

Komori

I do want a quickie FNAF video, I really do. I still cannot decide if I want to watch it or not, having zero knowledge of the games.

Dan Gibbins

A casual FNAF video sounds fun! I don't plan to see the movie itself, but I think a review from you would actually be more entertaining 😆

Landon J

Like this comment if you’re Bob

sam batty

Im totally in for a casual FNAF video 👏

Hanna Hays

the magiquest mention jumpscared me i loved it so much as a kid and there's this crazy rabbit hole to go down about the change in management and stuff lollll

zanna

PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT FNAF

Aiden Cordon

Chiming in to say I'm not tired of hearing about Evermore. But I do think maybe one vid per year at most would be the way to go. It'd be an interesting progress report type of thing.

puhtahtoe

53:11 Obsessed with the fact that the graphic designer for the Ghost Tour webpage has just slapped the Snapchat logo on there like no one would notice. Nothing to see here just a licensed vector image.

Alexis

I did not vote for this topic because I foolishly thought what else could there possibly be to say about Evermore?! Boy was I mistaken. This was excellent and I look forward to yearly Evermore vids until the park finally closes for good or who knows Evermore might outlive us all 🤷 I would also welcome a FNAF vid. I watched it the other day having never played the games and thought it was fine, but would love to hear Jenny's take on the movie :D

Luis

This place seems like a nightmare in absolutely all respects.

Cleo Oops

i thought the same thing omg im so glad it wasnt just me hahah

Suzy

Is the Starcruiser video far enough along to get a preview video soon? Really excited to get to see how its coming along, even if its a WIP!

Eric MacMillan

BOB! Be chill!!

Austin P. Smith

My head cannon is that Stephen King left this comment.

Moomin8577

If the Meow Wolf rumor gets enough attention, especially if someone high up has money they just gave Ken which would partially legitimize it, Meow Wolf would likely have to make some kind of public statement clearing up any confusion - to not tie their name to the park and its controversies.

Devin M

I believe, in Bob's mind, the fly was Jenny.

Matt Skuta

Your videos are all perfect!!! :) don’t make yourself sick stressin!!!

Desiree DiBerardino

I am not tired of the Evermore content. Also I am totally down for a FNAF video.

Kotah

Anyone who's read John Carreyrou's book Bad Blood, about Elizabeth Holmes might see similarities between Evermore and Theranos. Is this how tech people normally get money?

Iris

OMG PLS A FNAF VIDEO

bonnie h.

A FNaF video would be so cool! Oh my gosh I would love to hear your thoughts on the movie. FNaF fans would probably be annoying in the comments about you not knowing every piece of lore but I think that makes it more fun. :D

mollie

Silently highlighting the typos on their website was peak comedy

Hoons

Don't underestimate the amount of MagicQuest merch at Great Wolf. Not only does it have its own store for wands, capes, and accessories (including guilds!) but they also have their own Build-A-Bear line of original MagiQuest characters. Want a plush version of Foli, the leaf creature caretaker of the Source Tree? Only $10 more with your $99.99 Wolf Pass!

Theresa

FNAF video would be very fun!

Mady, you know, from TV

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THE FRACTUUURE

Patrick R.

I, for one, would adore a FNAF episode, that sounds fun! Also, more Evermore content sounds delightful. But who cares about all that Coral is dressed as a spider <333333

Samantha the Demoncat

What do you mean the ghosts in haunted mansion aren't real

Jenna Stoddard

I'd love to watch Jenny take on FNaF as a concept. Sounds pretty entertaining

Alex

Also, the power and energy of scrambling for investors meanwhile park officials are pettily responding to reviewers by name while disclosing that the vast majority of employees are experiencing assaults at their workplace. I wonder why no one wants to fund and link their brand to this!

Emil

I personally love these Evermore videos, it's practically dense Jenny lore at this point.

Tharaxis

I can just picture a year from now: someone bulldozing that expensive rare archway and not even knowing.

LS

I think a fnaf video sounds really awesome! I'd really like to hear more about what your takes are.

Derek LaCombe

I didn't think I wanted more Evermore but I was wrong. I wonder if Ken has approached the hilarious disaster millionaire Nile Niami? Seems like they'd make a great business pair.

LS

Forgot to mention this in a previous comment but since you talked about Lagoon, I also went there when I visited Evermore and it was fun! I'm a bigger fan of coasters and thrill rides than you are, so it was definitely more worth it for me than it might be for you, but I also found the spooky little dark rides really charming. They were pretty short, around Mr. Toad at Disneyland length, maybe a little longer, but I enjoyed them. They were cute. Halloween is probably the best time to go though if they have mazes for additional theming. Definitely don't go in the summer though. It was like 103 degrees when I was there so. Rip.

Steph K

I want to believe that it was Kanye West and it's an escalation of their feud with Taylor Swift. At the Christmas event we'll see Jake Gyllenhaal drinking hot cocoa in a red scarf and fake elf ears

Emil

Salt Lake City has like 3 very high quality scare mazes and Utah county (where pleasant Grove is) has a few fine ones. evermore is a fine one.

Treyden Talbot

They had aerialists the last two seasons, but I don’t know any behind the scenes info sadly

Katherine S.

I would love to see Jenny go to wizards quest in the Wisconsin dells seeing how much she enjoyed Magi quest. Someone else mentioned it already but it’s kind of similar to magi quest but geared more towards adults while being still fun for kids. The environmental design in the whole building is phenomenal and they pretty recently moved into a huge new building that’s three floors and very expansive. So many secret rooms and areas, each area is themed to a certain element. There are no actors but I kind of prefer that since the experience is so engaging on its own actors aren’t really needed. People tend to pass it up since it’s in the middle of a tourist trap downtown but it’s genuinely one of my favorite places and I have been going since I was a kid. The one thing I will mention is some of the puzzles require use of black light and the ones they give u don’t always work well which can stop u from completing certain quests, but there’s so much to do that u can just move onto something else. There are also some quests that require crawling through some tight squeezes and as a tall person that can be pretty dicey but for a kid is extremely fun.

Emma

FNAF would be so so fun! Love the evermore vids, can't wait to watch them all together

Mia S

We see you Bob….. We see you…..

Amy

(Q&A voice) We didn't change that because of her, we knew about the stinky tavern for YEARS. Re: six flags/cedar fair, I don't know what to think because both companies do such underwhelming work lol. I do worry that with them becoming one oversized company, it'll just be a more Walmart operation and be even easier for things like maintenance to fall through the cracks

Jenny Nicholson

I just want you to know finding out about two more Evermore videos absolutely made me pledge on here, so thank you for the rambles! I always wondered what their response to your original video was and now we know 😂 Also, FNAF video would be amazing.

C Martinez

OH MAN that's another thing I could've talked about, I listened to a whole podcast about their then-audition process and it was comically rigorous for how meager the pay is. Like a million rounds and weird Mr Miyagi level challenges that don't even feel reflective of skill in any practical way, like "give your monologue standing next to 2 guys also doing their monologues, and then we surprise you by asking what their monologues were about." Just tasks that felt unreasonable and like some kind of power trip to impress them with how intense the process was. I think often their failure to yes-and is just uncertainty about the story. Like they know there must be one and don't want to guess wrong, but don't really know what it is.

Jenny Nicholson

Right? Just mind boggling

Lindsay

HAHAHAH oh i love this, a spot on reference. i’m due for a Balance relisten

cheyenne 🌠

Crap hit Enter. Anyway - I've been to the Great Wolf Lodge in my area and they do have MagiQuest and my kids happily spent hours running around waving their expensive cheap wands at everything, it's good times. And I think you, Jenny, would like GWL in general, it's really themed and just super cute.

Tally

- FNAF please oh my god. I don't know how one can make a simple FNAF video but I want more animatronics people to talk about it.

Tally

Jenny is wearing her future Evermore disguise on her head- sheet ghost

Laura McRaniels

I just realized upon reading your comment that it isn't and I'm still not totally convinced until I watch it again myself.

Markus D

Okay wildly hilarious that if you go to the evermore website today, the Christmas theme is up and it’s a “Dickens Christmas with a T W I S T!!!” What are they odds that went up in the 18 hours since this video posted?

Jesse

In the theme of FNAF, have any of y’all checked out the Rockafire Explosion documentary?? I think it gave an interesting look into the animatronic band craze of the 80s while exploring the hold that nostalgia can have over people. The thought of the creator of the band just pacing through his big warehouse full of deteriorating animatronics and tech was so eerie to me!

Meg Kubesh

Every video i am getting more and more annoyed at Brettschneider. I have had a boss like that, who dreamt big, and thought up cool concepts, and was personaly insulted when I said demoralising things like, "Hey, i've worked a couple of events, i don't think we can find a location, organize catering, and advertise to visitors in a two week timeframe for a 50+ people event." Like, no. I haven't done it. And if you can pull it off, I'll be very impressed at your skills. But asking "how will we actually do this? How are you accounting for the worst case scenario? What's your fire safety protocol? Who on staff is responsible for first aid?" isn't being mean when someone is running a business.

Sarah

Great video! Every scene from Evermore is like a video game where the NPC's have written the story and dialogue...

VermiciousKnid

Would love to hear your thoughts on fnaf!

Valentina Friedrich

The dead end roleplay makes me think of that moment in TAZ… “What’s your story, Cassidy?” “I don’t think I should tell you guys this. You’re here to kill all of us and steal my root beer barrels.” “Good improv, Cassidy. way to say yes. Let me try again. So what’s your story?” “Well, I’m glad you asked-”

Rae Leo

> Hell, you can even characterize it like they take pride in all the things they know about Evermore and the worlds. That is SUCH a good point! Make them a scholar, or a scientist, or a teacher. Someone who likes knowledge and likes to share it.

Sarah

I think Christmas is a big missed opportunity for Evermore. It would not be too difficult to have a Yule celebration (it is Utah though, and maybe that would upset the majority Mormon customer base they probably have). They could also easily do a Victorian Christmas and have carolers, a lights display would not be too difficult to pull off, and that could be a big source of income for them. As it stands, Philadelphia City Hall has a bigger Christmas festival than evermore. And it isn't even a theme park, it's an operating municipal building.

Libby

TFW you watch a Q&A and they're talking about YOU

AU

yes I think more casual videos would be fun! like someone else commented recently I think you're stressing yourself out too much with thinking of main channel videos. we're here for you on patreon!

Anna Glin

a fnaf video would be amazing!!

thecroodsfilms

Bob the EverMole

Jaz Mei Luo

The fake British accents in the audio plays 😭😭😭

Marissa Collins

Not the plagiarism of CS Lewis in the podcast

Eliel

can't wait for the next video of him sheepishly going "Hey guys. Don't worry this time i didn't write seven books in three years! I bought a themepark and i wrote a compendium, an rpg rulebook, several books worth of character backstory, fifty questlines, and a ten year plan for our storybeats going forward. Normal stuff"

Sarah

love this ramble, and would love an FNAF fun lil vid. I haven’t seen FNAF but your Dumbo/Fantastic Beasts/Joker videos are all so good

Cabbage

Firstly, I would love a FNAF video even if it slightly pushes back the timeline on the starcruiser one! Take your time. Secondly, hi Bob (everything Jenny said about "convergence" was right).

Malini Correa

Reminds me of Table top horror stories. Someone makes a character who's a cool loner. They don't do teamwork. They're to busy being cool and alone. And it's like, okay, but this is a group game. You need to come up with a reason why your character WOULD work with the other players. Thats the buy in. In evermore, you're not larping, you're facilitating a guest experience. So your character should be someone who, even sarcastically, is helpful. If they are rude, they can go "What, you haven't heard about guilds??? Are you a baby? Are you a stupid newborn baby who doesn't know guilds are people with the same job and goal? You think the hunters play songs all day? No! they go out and hunt monsters."

Sarah

You should deffo do some smaller fun videos - it sounds like you need a palate clenser! Only working on the epic long things can be draining...

Gareth Eade

It’s also strange, if they’re not disseminating the story to the actors so they’re all solid on what’s going on (and not perpetually surprised guests are asking?) that they apparently don’t provide improv training, or hire for it. Maybe just cause I went to an improv-heavy college, but it seems to me like a very obvious first step to give at least a few days of training in yes-anding and other fundamentals. I’ve seen teens grasp how not to kill the scene pretty quickly, and these character interactions seem to always be exactly what not to do. Maybe they get penalized if when talking to guests, they establish some lore that the writers didn’t expect? But that leaves them in a no-man’s land of not having anything prepared and also not being able to make anything up.

Ann Parker

The convergence wasn’t a scam! They just marketed a scam to their loyal following for a flat fee

Ashley Norton

i wasn't expecting the sanderson crossover, that would be a cute idea

draav

They definitely changed stuff because of your video. I went there a couple months ago and noticed there was some kind of scent being pumped into the tavern. It made me think of how you said it stank in there before lol. Also, since you mentioned Six Flags and Knott's, did you hear those companies are merging? I wonder if it'll be good or bad for them.

Steph K

If you're reading this, hi Bob!

coeur_de_liqueur

It’s wild how much Evermore storytelling is “telling, not showing” when it’s LITERALLY a show

Ann Parker

I thought that the clip of the person asking for a quest and about guilds and getting completely shut down was from an early season when the park was new and they hadn’t quite figured it out yet. How was that was years after opening???

Zachary Coleman

i 100% believe he tried to fake it til he made it with investors. that is exactly how tech companies do it

Aimee W

Also I thought I should point out that on Ken's fb bio and on his Xitter handle it says that he is now the CCO, instead of the CEO.

The Huldra King

I didn't vote for this but I love all jenny videos so I'm still happy to get this one

Anna D

Wow the Q&A part was a ride!

Jason F

Would love a FNAF video!!

apelsindipp

please please PLEASE do the FNAF video, I LOVE your super long and high effort videos but I really do miss the old laid back spirit of the channel as well. I also think it would be a good idea to have a shorter and less intense video in between Evermore and the cruise video.

viruviruviru

"judge atkinson" omg that's almost the same name as the dad in Troll. collab of the century????

Austin F

I had to step away for a few seconds and forgot to pause and when I got back thought that convoluted skull story was somehow the new backstory for the haunted doll, adding a whole extra level of confusion to it.

NHakan

The magiquest callout is amazing. Went there as a kid every year I could in Myrtle Beach, and I'd go as an adult if it existed and was aged up a bit. Evermore seems like the perfect skeleton for it.

Daniel Calvert

We would love more of your casual movie reviews, and I dont know anything about fnaf, so having you describe it will surely feel like a fever dream

Majima Cookie

The word "beldam" was not invented for Coraline. It's just another word for witch/hag. Striking deals is something that happens in a lot of folktales about hags. It's just kinda what they do. It's just a bad story, definitely not a reference.

egg

I mean, there was that waiver that Jenny talked about not being able to sign in the first video, I assume they still have one?

mysticaldesign

omg i would so love to hear your thoughts on fnaf

lydinair

A FNAF video would be awesome!! I also think if you haven't seen Willy's Wonderland (the Nicholas Cage FNAF rip off), you would get a kick out of it. In my opinion, it's way more fun than the real FNAF movie, and goofy in a good way.

Katy Blessing

Yikes, that fireside chat is the stuff of nightmares. I don't know if it's because the set and video quality makes it look like a witness deposition, but I'm like half of a mind to suspect that the park closing/firing the actors could be a direct result of it coming to light. I'm not a lawyer, but looking at it from a layman's perspective, the statements therein would expose serious legal liabilities and threat of lawsuits. Where before it could be regarded as rumor, now here is an employee (a spokesperson, even!) of the park stating directly, on video, that it has and is taking place. Am I reading too much into it? It seems like a big deal.

Antalion20

I would be so down for a classic Jenny style FNAF video. I went to see the movie and my boyfriend didn’t, and I just could not articulate the like nonsensical exposition and weird moments well. I feel like hearing it all second hand in a similar fashion to the fantastic beasts video would be so perfect.

Pip

I know people's mileage varies a lot on the quality of Sanderson's work - I at least like almost of all of his novels and love a decent few but he has genuine limitations and also a very... distinctive narrative style that I know drives a lot of people up the wall (and I completely get it). All that said, two of his strengths that I don't think many people would argue with is his ability to envision fantasy worlds that feel genuinely unique and, though by no means outstanding prose, at least very clear prose in terms of bringing across visuals and what's happening in any given scene All of which is to say, yeah, his work is, in my view, tailor-made to create an interesting themed venue even if you're not interested or even outright dislike his novels. That said, because his worlds generally are so removed from typical fantasy, I can only think of two iconic castles he could be thinking of, one of which would be a very ambitious build and not exactly pretty, and the other... I have no clue how you'd build convincingly given that its main distinguishing feature is that it's on top of that world's equivalent of Mount Everest.

Kav

They had Disney imagineers and other qualified people running originally, Ken just couldn't keep them... I mean at this rate, maybe if evermore is open 2 more years the cast will consist of 14 year olds /hj

The Huldra King

Ah yes. Kanye. I remember getting a heads up about that and to act normal, then driving to the studio (when they still had it) in order to get into costume, seeing black SUV(s?) and being approached while still in my car, being told to keep my phone in my pocket, all of that. And I was like neat... anyways I just want to get into costume and start my shift. Also the magic campfire thing was from a different outfit, and they used the Evermore space to demo it to people for maybe one night? One person went around with an earpiece and chatted with guests waiting in line, and what information she gleaned from the next in the queue would be passed onto the one voicing the fire, so he could weave that into his presentation as a sort of clairvoyance. https://www.infinitekingdoms.com/magiccampfire

The Huldra King

Bellam is also just a name for a witch so I think calling it a rip off is a stretch, especially since the stories are nothing alike

Francesca White

plz Jenny drop the Star Wars hotel video I can’t take it lol

Wren

I would love to hear your FNAF hot takes haha. I always love your movie videos!! P.s. hi Bob!!

Virgil's Inferno

When I watched the evermore video I assumed the livestreamer was one of your friends and I was impressed how quickly she defined "guild" lol I feel like that would have been a "name a woman" moment for me.

Ashley

hi bob!!!

mysticaldesign

That MagiQuest section was so nostalgic for me to watch because I LOVED that game the couple of times I went to Great Wolf Lodge as a kid :') Also Evermore has so many problems, thank you for continuing to make videos about it! Such a horribly-managed park and I feel so bad for the actors

Shannon D.

The Jenny Patreon comment section is the only social media platform I still like

Madeleine Jubilee Saito

I'll be happy if they close only because then I know that Wen Weaver will finally be free from Kierstin playing with her like her favorite broken toy in her toybox #teamweaver

Tommy M

The Beldam is the villain from Coraline. The story sounds like a rip off of the movie

Brett Lunde

If I can see anyone walk me through the convoluted, nonsensical mythology of FNAF, I think it would have to be you.

Andreas Stahl

as an east tennessean i've always wondered what magiquest even is because no one who lives near pigeon forge like i do is willing to stop anywhere over there but the national park, so the magiquest clips were an unexpected little treat for me lol

sawyer tsaregorodtseva

That doesn’t look like Kanye, I agree with you

Sara

YES!!! I was there in the fandom when it came out in 2014 but Im sooo out of the loop now XD IDK Vanessa either, but despite some weird decisions the movie was pretty cool as an old fan :)

Starlit Rain

Does anyone know if they still have the aerial performances? As a professional aerialist myself I am so curious about how that came about and if they treat them well

Caroline Shepperd

Im SO excited!!!! Yippieee! Jenny youre the best content creator!

Starlit Rain

OOOH Jenny a FNAF video would be such a treat! I’ve been relentlessly haunted by the absurdity of the lady cop character since I saw the movie, please help me exorcise her from my brain!!

Nickel Brady

Yes! They are not taking any responsibility for the fact that they designed a game that seems to actively discourage healthy, casual play. The main way to have "fun" is to obsess over every tiny action of the employee-characters. Its like if Disney forced you to list the names of your favorite cast members before boarding pirates of the caribbean.

Drew Hitchcock

honestly as much as I appreciate the transparency and honesty from the manager who did this live Q&A, it seems like she created excellent grounds for a lawsuit by employees! it's like a tacit confession that management is aware that the park is a breeding ground for the physical assault of employees!

Ella Dawson

I do think that you should take a bit of a break when it comes to the Starcruiser video if you feel burnt out on it. Like, if you do a casual FNAF video, maybe it'll help raise your spirits just to get something finished? (And so sorry to hear that you were feeling sick at the end of this!)

Markus D

I was unhappy about Evermore winning initially because I thought that there wouldn't be enough to actually SAY about Evermore, but I'm very satisfied with this, because there WAS!

Markus D

I think the best way of having an info person who is going to be lackadaisical and holding a fan is by having them laying on a chaise longue and starting up conversation with people approaching, like a socialite, but one who shares useful info to guests. Hell, you can even characterize it like they take pride in all the things they know about Evermore and the worlds. Though, of course, this is assuming that the actor knows what is happening in the park around them, while it feels like Evermore is giving basically no instruction to anyone.

Markus D

FNAF is so on-brand you gotta do a quick video

blitzball

best logic ever

Mariel

Hiiii yes, please I love your movie videos, I think the FNAF franchise is one of the most fun to comment/critic/review etc, due to the amount of craziness and fun nonsense surrounding it

Gamaliel Miranda

I would love a five nights at freddys video so so much. I was hoping you would do one. I'm a having the most rotten day ever. My dog (not one in my pic) is getting a cancer mass removed. I'm scared. It helped having this long video to listen to.

Mariel

I’m having trouble pulling up the link but I’m 90% sure one of the early rambles is about Jenny’s experience working at Disney, it should be in the masterpost!

Evan Bobrow

screaming (laughing) at Witch Beldam’s Spooky Skull Exchange

berry beinfeld

Wow, thank you so much for that link. It matches so much of what I get from my own parents. "We all make mistakes!" I'm not saying you did irreparable damage, but choices you made affected me and I'd like to talk about it.

DJ

I'm feeling kind of dizzy and tired today, but this video has majorly cheered me up.

My Summer Rain

In regards to the safety issue, I'm surprised there isn't any major disclaimer when purchasing tickets or a code of conduct for guests to sign. I know Sleep No More had this issue and when I went last year, there were quite a few disclaimers that you would be removed immediately if you broke the agreement you signed. (Plus they have designated staff in every room who are not actors to watch guests.) If it's regular guests behaving this way (as the manager is implying), it seems like that would be a huge step in prevention if the consequence was "You will be removed and never allowed back."

Brittany Rees

Justice for the skull witch beldam lady

Max Nink

Obsessed with the reading of that ebook... I love that they do the classic My Immortal move of never being able to just use "said" as a dialog tag, everyone has to "interject" or "ejaculate" or whatever.

Shiny Skunk

Definitely says a lot about the company culture

Caroline Shepperd

Putting someone out there untrained makes them the scapegoat. It puts her at legal and reputations risks, making her the face of bad news without that being her job. It’s super unfair, and I feel bad for her!

Miranda Miller

So are Evermore's entire management staff made up of former actors/low-level employees? Instead of people with experience running theme parks/events/etc? Have they ever had an experienced management staff trying to run the park? I would dearly love an expose of how this thing is actually run at the higher level.

Isaac Lawton

hi jenny! i know it's pretty unlikely that you'll respond to this, as it's not super related to the video, but hearing you talk about your experiences working at disney (as someone who would like to work in the park in a similar capacity someday), i was just curious what your journey was like in getting into the company? i know a lot of people my age use the DCP as a springboard into working at the company, but is that the only real entry-level way to become a cast member at this point? love your videos; they're always a surefire way to cheer up my day!

Jennie White

Looks like this has been added now, discussion is within "haunted doll" timestamp at: 26:54. Save watching x

Laur

FNAF holiday video titled “On the Fifth Night at Freddy’s, My True Love Gave to Me”

Mitchell Herring

I'd be interested in a FNAF video!

Ryan Eynab

wait is... is the ghost story a reference to coraline? they call the monster "the Beldam" which is lifted from coraline, who replaces eyes (skulls) with buttons (skulls) and she also strikes a deal when she has the upper hand... except it makes sense in the story. wild thing to lift from and the name makes it especially obvious lmao

Knockoff Airpods

hearing your perspective on fnaf would be cool, would be fun to watch!

MelvinIsANiceBoy

I would love to see a Five Nights at Freddy's video. I think it can be very funny and attract many views.

Chantal

I know nothing about FNAF, but I also haven’t seen most of the movies you talked about in your older format, and I still love and regularly rewatch those videos. Suffice to say I would love if you did something with FNAF and I would watch it probably a dozen times minimum

Mike Carpenter

The Q&A was so bizarre. It's also weird that the woman in that seemed to be blaming the guests so much as if the company shouldn't have safeguards in place to stop these incidents from being so common in the first place. Like, I'm not removing the blame from said abusive guests, but the sheer volume of harassment suggests that there's something wrong at the core of the business, because it's unlikely that it just happens to be that Evermore is really attractive to sexual predators.

Markus D

your take on fnaf would be awesome

Andrea Barlow

I feel like *I* have better PR skills than the lady in the Q&A. I have zero training, but I know not to say something that's basically "maybe the alleged abuses against employees is just them being offended by our tone and they have to deal with it because that's the real world".

Markus D

Jenny, and anyone else looking for a good time, should really check out the Wisconsin Dells (the self-proclaimed waterpark capital of the world) and WIZARD QUEST!!! I think Jenny would absolutely love it based on her review of Magic Quest. Wizard Quest is a different experience and, according to their site, "created for adults, with children in mind." There are riddles, hidden entrances, and many 3D characters. It's so interactive and fun (assuming it hasn't changed much since I last went some years ago)! Going to Wizard Quest is one of my all-time happiest childhood memories. https://www.wizardquest.com/

Zzzzerk Ronzzzerk

If you do a video of lagoon in utah it would be worth looking into their collection of animals. It’s the worlds saddest zoo. Lagoon also has a waterpark.

Dannielle Moriondo

I went the Evermore website (because of course I did) but they have announced the winter season too. Bets on whether they actually open or whether they just take people's money for tickets and then close anyway?

Keri Riley

Nice! I knew this ramble was late and figured you were editing it, didnt expect it to be this massive though! Also yay for more evermore, essentially a part 3 at this point

Majima Cookie

Who in their right mind trusts the influencers who went week one to starcruiser 😭😭

Niki Rakauskas

I fear the chaos has begun to spread beyond the Realm of Doors & Portals to our own world.

Sqand

ok, this video was extremely entertaining, from possibly kanye to the nonsense talking skull story, to the absolutely unhinged q&a stream, to the reveal that bob has been lurking on the patreon (and then commenting on this thread)... i hadn't laughed this much in a while, thanks Jenny! also it's a huge yes from me on the FNAF video, but also literally any content from you. i'll watch you talk about literally anything.

luizamor

I'm not even 5 minutes in and Mr. Brett Schneider's perpetual victimhood is killing me.

Kimberly

He is among us...

Joe-Joe Louis

wow, the Lore plotline resolving with a numbered list...... jenny's influence on evermore fr

Emily McNally

I will never get tired of Evermore content.

warriorsmurf

Jenny, regarding your speculation about whether Ken was bluffing to try to get investors, that was definitely the impression I got reading between the lines on your first video. When they were comparing themselves (favorably) to Disney in their early marketing spiels, I actually paused your video the first time I watched it and googled how much it would have cost to build a Disney-quality ride at the time they were building Evermore (170 million for one ride, if I remember right). I'm pretty sure a single ride would have been too much for him, and there's no way he could have afforded a whole park built to that level of quality. Which means either they didn't do 30 seconds of research, or everything they said in the early days was a lie. So it really seemed like they were putting on a big show for investors. I got the impression that it was only later, after that failed, that they changed their tune to bragging that not having investors was a good thing. But by that point, the writing was already on the wall that the park was never going to see significant improvements over the state it was in. (I'm posting this just after watching that section of this video, so it's possible you discuss it more later.)

Ivy Veritas

It’s so surreal knowing that bob is among us. He and Jenny are like in orbit, keeping tabs on evermore and each other in their own ways ….idk it’s really wild and was surreal to see in this video

Nicholas Balda

*grift

Shan

also, if it's not too much to ask, would you be able to add a cw/time stamps for suicide?

Taylor Brown

I would love a FNAF video, I genuinely think your real life knowledge of animatronics and themed environments would give you a fascinating perspective on the movie/franchise

Haley Hansen

hi bob

Zachary Coleman

I have to listen to the audio drama

Erin Dugan

1:59:40 oh my god. Maxwell’s theme coming in is transcendent. This is like end of act one of les mis

Erin Dugan

yes!! i would love a fnaf vid

Taylor Brown

That looks like it could be Kanye to me, but I just can't imagine Kanye walking around with zero entourage? Wouldn't he at the very least have a bodyguard with him?

Jower

so is this the part where we say "hi bob! hope you enjoy jenny's non-evermore videos!" because. what a twist.

TalysAlankil

Why is there a character who is named after an actual famous Italian math wizard.

Hedrigal

i don’t know how evermore continues to shock me but that “fireside chat” has my jaw on the ground

Rebecca H

lol definitely not tired of evermore content. ill take anything you want to talk about. not complaining about the democratic process of this patreon, but my personal, least favorite topics are like “make up something from this prompt” meme type things. i love hearing your opinions and analysis so when its just for the memes im not super invested.

Creamer

FNF video would be good

Will Crouch

The interview is astonishing honestly.

Hedrigal

I would go feral for a Jenny FNAF video 👀

Leona Lee

The part where she said that they do their own internal investigations into fan harassment of their actors was really hard to hear. Untrained general employees keeping a blacklist does not constitute an official response by the park, and should be considered a liability NIGHTMARE on multiple fronts. I’m glad that she, as an individual, seems to be taking the problems seriously, but she’s still looking at it from the perspective of a boots-on-the-ground employee, not management: “how can we minimize the harm when these incidents happen” rather than “why are these incidents happening and how can we ensure the safety of our staff”. I hope her upset over these incidents is taken seriously by the next generation of management once she is forced out, but I suspect she’ll just be treated as a malcontent, precisely the way she dismissed her predecessors.

Dale Willey

@Bob: Y'all should set aside some of the parking lot as Employees Only - No Trespassing. Then you can reach out to the local martial-arts scene to offer them a designated hunting ground, because any non-employees in that area will be either creepers or thieves -- or at least trespassers -- who will deserve whatever beatings the black belts deliver.

Steve Ray

totes. Also a big fan of roofs

Birthe_bird

Well come to think of it that would explain taking him to what looked like a quick service/walk up bbq place. I mean not saying kanye is a food snob, as I said he loved the disneyland food lol. But if you're courting an investor it feels like you'd try to take them to a fancy table service dinner where you'll be sitting/talking a while, especially if it's a big celebrity who could get swarmed at a casual place. Unless being seen is your goal! (Also it's so sus to me that for 2019 or whenever, the only pictures are low res and from a distance like he's a cryptid)

Jenny Nicholson

Evermore should be applauded for having a representative with no media training. In what wonderful world would we live if all companies did that... Having PR reps after allegations say stuff like:"Sorry to say this bro but sucks to be you." People would burn down company headquarters on a daily basis.

Benj

"And all of its walls and stuff" is also what I look for in a building

David Cock

I'm declaring it now: I'll never get tired of Evermore content. And that's a goddamn promise.

Candice

My tinfoil hat theory is that Bretschneider hired a professional Kanye West impersonator to walk around town with him and make it look like Kanye might invest in the park, as a way of attracting REAL investors who might want to get in on whatever Kanye is doing. It would explain why so many people are saying those are photos of Kanye even thought it doesn't really look like him, since celebrity impersonators never really look much like the people they impersonate, and it sounds like exactly the kind of dumb idea Ken Bretschneider would come up with. Also, I would be excited for a Five Nights at Freddy's video, since I have no intention of ever watching the movie, but I still want to be entertained.

Steven Clark

Agreed! That part was horrifying! It was SO much worse than I imagined! It sounds like it's become normalized as a routine problem too. Like not a terrible one-off, but a regularly occuring issue they're maybe 'trying' to fix. If Ken cared about his employees, surely you'd shut everything down immediately until you could put in real safety measures. How many people have been harassed or assaulted from his sheer carelessness?

Candice

Total agree - A free to enter, extremely themed shopping center really feels like the best way to fix things up there. Finish the buildings and add shops, bookstores, bakeries, etc… and then Ken can just charge rent to the stores and continue to run annual scare mazes. Finish the church and start hosting weddings inside. Put a good restaurant in. Make one of the stores an antique shop and sell off all of the insane props lol With the building architecture, I feel like it would make a good “Carmel by the Sea”-esque tourist/shopping experience. I would hang out in a place like that all the time!

Liz Marie

I have personally never really interacted with FNAF but I feel like a video on it would ABSOLUTELY fit in with your canon of Creepypasta/ 2010s Internet Horror videos and I'd be excited to see it!

David

Yes please, FNAF video.

Jubei

This video was amazing! I love your spider's costume!

David

Hope you feel better soon Jenny!

Eric MacMillan

Jenny, have you heard of Phantom Peak? It sounds kind of like a British Evermore with a Steampunk Western aesthetic

Chloe Imogen

BRAVO, Jenny. Bravo.

THORnews

I can't describe how much I love the evermore trilogy

Najeeb Khadim

Also… a FNaF video sounds amazing!!

Mimosa

I am pro-fnaf video

Caden Meyer

FNAF vid would be fun! I’m so invested in the insanity of the FNAF lore/fandom from, like, an anthropological standpoint, despite having never played any of the games. I saw your tweets about it and I feel like a video from the perspective of someone who only has the movie for context would be a good foil to all the super-dedicated fans just enumerating every reference and Easter egg.

Porge

A fellow Critter! Bidet! 😁 I wonder how many of us are lurking here... (Also, seconding your point!)

Candice

He’s among us!!! But where???? Where??? This was a fantastic video. We patreons sure are well fed!

Mimosa

When I told my boyfriend that Evermore was supposedly closing, he fully took his lunchbreak at work and called to ask me to book a hotel for the weekend before Halloween to visit. We are those people who would have loved to know if it was closing, so we dropped everything, just in case. We also visited Lagoon, which was better, but Evermore was decently fun.

Georgia

Noooo no fnaf

lyrium

Skoolls

Julian Wren

I would love FNAF video. Super random but I saw it on Halloween and to my surprise I was sitting next to Mike from Stranger Things all his friends lol. Movie was just alright but sitting next to a famous person made the experience really memorable.

Clayton

I think a casual video would be fun and maybe from the creator perspective a nice break from working on longer content. I don't know anything about FNAF but then again, a year ago I knew nothing about Evermore, and now I've watched like 8+ hours of your videos on it, so that's hardly a problem.

Ash Gabrielle

I’m so happy Jenny got to go to the free standing magi quest. I went to the one in myrtle beach every year in the 00s. I still have a magi quest rune hanging from my review mirror. When I first saw the og evermore video my first thought was why they didn’t just do a beefed up magi quest for an older audience. I would have loved to see that park :(

Olivia Grillo

na i'm never going to post a response to these, i just really enjoy watching them

Bob

It seems like the only benefit they have to joining a guild is that you might be less likely to be assaulted by someone in the park.

Kevin

Wow you should record fairy audio books, perfect character voice

Aaron Lutes

I was silently thinking to myself that the Evermore topic was beating a dead horse but I have to admit I was wrong. This got juicy and there was plenty more to say! Thanks for another great ramble video. And I think a more casual movie review video would be great!

Mortalfingies

PLEASE do a FNAF video. As someone who only watched a single let's play on an episode of Critical Role's 4-Sided Dive, I thoroughly enjoyed watching a fun silly movie that had no idea who its target audience was and I would love nothing more than to hear you talk about it like the olden days of Lore .....get it? Lore?

Henri Sudy

I have consumed exactly zero FNAF content (never played the game or watched playthroughs, I'm vaguely aware there was a movie?) but thats true of a lot of things you've talked about on your channel and I've still found it all interesting, so I say go for it, especially if its something you want to talk about. I think as long as its something you are interested in, there are plenty of people in your audience that will enjoy it, the Evermore video seems to be proof of that. You certainly got me extremely invested in this park I hadn't even known existed.

Celozon

I would absolutely LOVE a fnaf video!!

Alicia Young

Please do FNAF I love rewatching the shorter video reviews too relax

Peter Brown

"a skull in the hand is worth two in the catacombs"

syds

Did they stumble onto a business model that caters to guys who behave inappropriately at Renaissance Fairs

Ted Koutz

Hi bob cant wait to see you post a response to both evermore and jennys subreddits

Saacool

dying at Jenny just casually throwing out a story about Kanye West eating BBQ behind her Disneyland petting farm away from prying eyes

Jennifer W

I love that there's ALWAYS more Evermore tea to spill. FNAF video sounds awesome!! I love the long super polished deep dive videos, but the more casual goofy stuff à la the Jurassic World video is so fun! Especially if you're feeling burned out on the Starcruiser it might be a nice change of pace.

Katherine Robinson

Hi Bob!

Pineapple Greyhound

Oh my god PLEASE do a FNAF video :o That would be the best thing!!

Madhavi Baiju

Omfg I rewatched the whole Evermore saga this past weekend + did a lil digging into the current state of affairs. Everything made me think "wow I hope Jenny covers this" lol. This is so perfect and timely, thank you!!

kduds

I almost can't believe that the staff were so blasé about so much information. I hope that they deal with these issues or stop putting their actors in such perilous positions. I do hope you do the FNAF movie video, it was so weird and I'm so curious what you have to say about it!

Eva Thurston

I hope Evermore Bob is as jump scared by the shoutout in this video as Jenny was from him mentioning her in the Q&A. also yes please to the FNAF video!

Juleshortstuff

I just feel like it should be emphasized again: a management level official of this park said that 85% of employees had been harassed, and that there is a harassment incident every single weekend that the park is open. Like what the actual fuck. I legitimately think this park should be shut down by the government. It's clearly unsafe for workers, and is arguably defrauding customers with its marketing.

Sajan Ramanathan

Your evermore videos are like going through a rotten onion, each layer is just more rotten than the last but I can't stop looking at it... also hi Bob!

Kieu

The Meow Wolf rumor is fascinating to me and I'd be shocked if it was anything but wishful thinking. You're absolutely right that Evermore is way off-brand for them. Meow Wolf always collaborates with local artists on the core design of each installation, and always builds in big destination cities (or popular touristy suburbs of big destination cities). And though the installations are all unique, they're similar enough in genre and style to include easter egg references to each other (e.g. Convergence Station includes a kiosk that displays Omega Mart products) and I kinda suspect that there might be actual narrative throughlines between them all. I can't even imagine what they'd do with an extant medieval fantasy park in (I'm sorry) a nowhere town like Pleasant Grove.

Dean Morgan Camp

Just got the the Beldam part of the video with the skull fence. Is he combining Beldam with Baba Yaga's skull fence/hut? I feel like he is just mashing stories together.

DiscoDame

Also I’d be interested in a FNAF video! if you’re feeling dispirited abt the Star cruiser video I do think maybe diverting into something a lot lower stakes might be a good change of pace ykwim

Janelle Rose

Ngl if meow wolf, magic quest, or Brando Sando managed to salvage something from the park & integrate it into their brand that would kinda own. And I’ve never read a Sanderson book. I also doubt meow wolf wants it but. A girl can dream

Janelle Rose

Yesssss, I had been wanting this to win SO MUCH. It's incredible to me that with every new Evermore video, I find more things to be horrified by. That Q&A session was PAINFUL, and I cannot understand how she had no prep for what is basically a PR interview. At least, I hope she had no prep because I refuse to believe that anyone could give the worst possible answers to every question if they had been in any way prepared. (Also I agree that part of the reason why Evermore refused to officially announce closing was due to monetary issues, but I would bet that an even bigger reason is Ken's ego. He is definitely the sort of person that would never admit to ever doing anything wrong or failing in any way.)

Katrina Kaufman

this is so real

Brit Wigintton

Evermore is just the gift that keeps on giving

Birthe_bird

also YES PLEASE to FNAF!!

Brit Wigintton

BOB IS A SNITCH

Brit Wigintton

I'm so glad we're all trying to find bob lol

Madhavi Baiju

I gasped out loud when I saw it was another Evermore video, it’s the train wreck that just keeps giving and never disappoints. 😂 I also would LOVE a 5 Nights at Freddy’s vid.

Tori Rittenger

AKL

Hi Bob!

Thomas Dziura

Lmfao the new disguise... 🌳🌳🌳🌲

Andrew Hill

the part where jenny realized bob was going to be watching her react to him reacting to her is MY convergence

Emma Dewil

Million Sub special where Jenny buys and reboots Evermore

Hempfancier

back in june my manager and his gf went to evermore for her birthday and it took so much willpower to not mention the evermore video or really just anything about evermore in general

Lunden Anderson

It's on my list! Along with the Epic campus around there, but idk when I'll ever make it out

Jenny Nicholson

I just want to point out that at 53:00, on the webpage for the ghost tour, that's just a silhouette of the Snapchat ghost.

Joel Eblin

(in a Randy Moore voice): 0 days without being sued by Evermore

Elisha Summers

This video was absolutely incredible. between the absurd q&a, annual pass shenigans, and ye rumors, truly a worthy send-off to this cursed park. if you don't care about five nights at Freddie's outside the movie I would love an old-school movie review (but your opinion on the series as a whole would also be interesting)

Anya

you should check out Wizard Quest in the wisconsin dells! it is magiquest on steroids. they just built a new space, which i haven’t been to yet. but it was amazing and now looks even better

Richelle Olsen

I love the Evermore videos but fear more exposure to “Conflict in the Ruins.” If there is a PTSD disorder except from cringe, I have it.

Eric Williams

The fact that the annual pass is close to the price of a Disney annual pass is crazy! Those two experiences are not comparable!

Hazel Singh

This was a level of Tea that I was not expecting to see today. Thanks for the vid. I sort of feel like the video you showed of the live feed is going to be used as evidence in a lawsuit at some point. The woman in the striped shirt straight-up admits that employees have PTSD from all of the assault they're subjected to while at the park. Also, Hi Bob!

Moczydlowski

ghost hat ghost hat ghost hat

Coral Peterson

Hi Bob!

Pineapple Greyhound

when i tell you that Q&A just took the wind out of me --

hannah

hi bob

Alissa

hi bob!!

Lauryn Goates

🫠Evermore videos give me SUCH secondhand embarrassment. I am addicted but also so very aware of my small town theatre roots 🫣

S.R. Harper

I am 100% sure that was not Kanye

Preston Do

I think devoting a bit of time as a rebuttal to that weird and bad live social stream wasn't bad at all.

Brian Tatosky

Is that-

Jenny Nicholson

I would LOVE a fnaf video

Brian Murray

Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Kat Black

I must know the origin of this headband

Kat Black

bob is here... somewhere....

evergreen

Jenny has an Evermore stringer reporter. She's better equipped than the newspaper.

Max Falkowitz

The Evermore trilogy might now be my favourite on screen trilogy.

Matt Reynolds

Hitman better ask for that payment up front

Jenny Nicholson

What if the lawsuit was a last ditch bid to impress kanye

Jenny Nicholson

That Q&A really goes places I did not expect

WGM

Just waiting until we learn Ken Bretschneider has placed a hit out on Jenny at this point good gracious.

e6n.

I have watched 8+ hours of content about a theme park and i'm not even that interested in theme parks.

Geoffrey Cline

2+ hours 🥹 wooooo!!!

B Hair

That business about the annual pass is BONKERS. Just... wild, wild stuff. It honestly feels like there was no research done on how similar/competitive businesses operate.

Alice Becker

Beldum is also a pokemon :)

JG

The beldam is the sort of unofficial name for the Other Mother from Coraline (she was called that a couple times and I think fans decided that was her true name) And I’m not convinced they aren’t directly lifting that name from Coraline for their spooky skull ghost story

Ophelia Brock

I'm now picturing an alternate timeline in which Evermore partners with Kanye. The first of every month is the Taylor Swift effigy burning.

Christine Govas-Robert

i have worked at evermore and still go to evermore park almost every time that it is open and i always look forward to and dread these videos. and in this one, once again, a lot of the stuff that jenny said, i found myself being like, "yeah! that's a good point!" if there's any common mistake in these videos, it's just that she gives evermore too much credit sometimes. like when she questions "i do not know why they would do that, or what their thought process was here." the answer is always "neither do they". the assumption that they are thinking about any of this at all and making deliberate decisions about the topics that she is bringing up is very unlikely to be true. they are not proactive about the things that they do; they are rarely even reactive. they just try things seemingly at random, and keep them or drop them with no statistical correlation to its success or failure. there are things that they do that work very well that they inexplicably stop. and there's things that are hated where they close their eyes and move forward with. evermore just is. this is not a defense of the park in any way.

Bob

Thanks! I left it open in case I needed to add followup info myself but it's set to hold for review so none will make it through

Jenny Nicholson

The joy i get seeing a new evermore video from you is unmatched in the modern era

fperrytheplatypus

I just finished playing games with friends, then thought to myself "now what am I gonna do", and then the patreon notification went off. perfect timing, thank you Jenny! EDIT: also just a heads up, you forgot to disable comments on the youtube video, it looks like

Blastoise_M

The borderline rude pr is definitely some poor college student trying to imitate the duolingo style

sam batty

omg bay area queen 🙏🏼

Kiana Leong

The ghost skull story has me dying

sam batty

Oh and it was for 15 months this year instead of 12

Billy Campelo

I just renewed my annual pass for Universal Orlando and with sales tax it was the same price as the Evermore annual pass which is insane. The universal pass is two theme parks, no block out dates and discounts for food and merch.

Billy Campelo

amazing headband!

Jax Dolman

The annual pass pricing is shocking lololol. I used to work at The Winchester Mystery House and we sold annual passes for $70 if I remember correctly. I think if you went twice in one year it would be a good deal but I was always shocked when some bought one.

Gina Pasquinelli

So much about Ken's writing, behavior, choices, reminds me of this one person's deep analysis of the language on estranged parents' forums. Here's analysis of the "we're not perfect, we don't have a ton of money" he said in that facebook post, for example: http://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/themes-perfection.html

Madeleine Jubilee Saito

Yay!!! We love to see it!

Madeleine Jubilee Saito

Ghost of Tip Top

Isaac Reid

JENNY THANK YOUUUU

reagan

Wake up babe a new episode in the Evermore Saga just dropped

man mann

I want to watch a FNaF video

Will V

Yeah last time I went they still had dolphins, but that was also crazy because the dolphin area was the former orca enclosure - so it was even weirder thinking of whales in that tiny tank. And their last whale lived for a long time all alone with no orca companionship (last I heard she's at a Sea World so at least she eventually saw other whales)

Jenny Nicholson

No better way to end a Monday then a new ramble, thanks Jenny!

Eric MacMillan

Listening now as a local to SLC and this is so good. I love following the Evermore saga as someone who has been to the park during Lore without knowing what it was and being sorely disappointed. I will say that SLC has a surprisingly super solid haunted house scene (Nightmare on 13th, Fear Factory, Castle of Chaos, many more) that have bungee actors, running water, animatronics, etc., but there's no way Evermore would hold up to those at all. My husband and I were walking through the crypt before it got closed off for the scare maze and there was so much fog accidentally pumped into there that we were coughing and gagging and lost for a long time before we made our way out.

Sarah Weyand

oooog I am so EXCITED

gabstar

I saw this and thought it must be a reupload. But no. It's EverMORE.

Joe Bloe

I went back to Marine World/Discovery Kingdom in early 2009 and it was horrifying. They still had some animals and they all looked like they were dying. You’d see an otter in a dirty tank directly under the Medusa roller coaster. I think they had dolphins at that place! Just in a hot six flags

Matt Grippi

Thank you I love it so much, I bought it secondhand which I wouldn't normally do with hair stuff but I think it's handmade

Jenny Nicholson

was the ghost headband made in-house or sourced directly from a European graveyard

Mak

A ghost ?? 😱 *screams*

Ryan Kearns

The feeling when I see a new ramble drop right as I'm plugging my phone as I go to bed AND it's about Evermore.

Kimberly J

omg..... Evermore (the Taylor Swift cover of the Jenny Nicholson bop) was playing in the grocery store this evening so I got very nostalgic about the original Evermore video and was craving a rewatch. Thank you for this fresh content 💌💌💌

shmemmali

I feel like you’ve put more effort into Evermore than Ken Bretschneider ever did.

Moomin8577

Fantastic headband 👻👻👻

SaraSeki

jenny i love you so much<3

Audrey K

Or one $5 weeding masterclass

Jenny Nicholson

2.5 hours more about Evermore? This patreon continues to be my most valuable subscription

TJ Westen

I was a bit concerned when voting that there wouldn't be too much more you really had to say about Evermore, but now seeing the 2.5 hour runtime for this 'ramble' I realize I owe you an apology. I wasn't really familiar with your game.

Erik Stevenson

At this point, Jenny’s made enough people so deeply invested in Evermore that if the park was even like, a LITTLE BIT DECENT, the park now has a large and loyal enough fandom to keep them alive. But they’re literally so bad that even this incredible, life changing opportunity was completely wasted 💀

Katherine Allen

(Complimentary)

Ishaan Sahai

Oh my god that’s 8 hours of Evermore

Ishaan Sahai

HELP I LITERALLY JUST OPENED THE PATREON APP TO SEE IF THIS WAS OUT

viruviruviru

<3 I’ve been opening the Patreon app every few minutes for the past half hour; my senses were tingling, I could FEEL the ramble coming

Grerutin

We now have an entire American work day of Evermore audio.

Justin

2.5 hours jenny you’re my hero

Kit

Ayy, I knew it!

Abbey Burch

So excited! Stayed away from all Evermore news waiting to see if you would talk about it again.

Hazel Singh

Evermore video 3: the return of the queen

Deanna

YES MORE EVERMORE YIPPEEEEEEE

Katie Kraynak

just happened to open patreon the moment this was posted lol

Ellie Wilson