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CH685

The room was once more divided with that statement between those who were aware and those who weren’t, with the majority who seemed to know coming from the aquatic side since that was where the murders took place.

Of the terrestrial, it seemed there was a lot more shock. Falk at the very least had been unaware as to the reason for the delay and Ben was getting the impression that it was news to most others around him too, many looking surprised with only one among them coming across as excited more than anything.

Yeah, I’m understanding more and more why nobody wants to look at the spooky girl when she’s going to have a reaction like that. More importantly, murder huh?

It immediately made him want to know more, both about the circumstances and the details of it. The why was a big one and he had to hold himself back from doing anything given that he’d somehow already gotten far more eyes on him than he’d planned on when all of that started, doing his best to wait for anyone else to speak up before he resorted to plundering the murderer’s memories to sate his curiosity, with his patience soon being rewarded.

“What? What did you do?” Yuzu asked as she rose from her seat, looking like she already had some idea, with Regnal seeming entirely indifferent to the matter.

“I did exactly what I wanted, should that really be so shocking? And whatever power they held is meaningless when I’m easily worth a hundred of them.”

“We don’t count lives so easily,” Killi told him. “You don’t get to decide who lives and dies because of some personal grudge.”

“Why not, your gods do and I’m supposedly going to be one eventually,” He shot back. “And for that matter, how dare any of you natives judge me, you have no right. Bringing me to this world to fight your enemies and expecting me to forgive mine at the same time, I’d rather this entire world be destroyed than accept those animals.”

The table didn’t take such a statement quietly, opinions were immediately being shouted back and forth in a scene that reminded him of a miniature version of what he saw from the actual gods of the world while Ben began putting together what he was hearing through context, with it looking like all of this stemmed from something Verbum had told him about in the past, a mistake that was objectively on the gods who had brought them to that world.

Among the summoned groups, there was one that was brought who had been equally split between two races in what sounded like some sort of interstellar war, with one being invaded by the other in a scene that didn’t sound entirely different from what their world was currently going through.

He was sure the thought process behind the act was to get a bit more variety with the groups they took but it was obviously a bad choice from the get-go, destined to end in the current situation the moment it was discovered that one on the defending side had come with a skill at the third tier.

Really, if anything it was just lucky that it had taken so long to happen at all, though it didn’t seem like it was going to resolve itself any time soon and made it clear why the meeting was expected to stretch on for a few days. Everyone had opinions and these were the sorts of people that couldn’t be beholden to any governing body. How was any mortal meant to rule over someone who was destined for godhood? The most they could do was toss it to their equals and hope they’d somehow sort it out amongst themselves.

“While we live on the world we are tied to its laws,” The divine chef sighed, wanting things to end even a few moments sooner to get back to her work. “It doesn’t matter what anyone else says. It’s not acceptable now and it won't be acceptable when you ascend.”

“That’s easy to say I’m sure,” Regnal sneered. “And I’m sure you’d be all so much better in my position, wouldn’t you? If you were ripped from the world after seeing those you love killed by demons, only to be told to fight obediently by their sides, you’d all do it without a word and just make peace.”

“I would choose peace in a heartbeat if I could.”

“How noble.”

The tone was mocking and it seemed things would never end with the conversation running in circles from there. He couldn’t be allowed to take his revenge while ignoring the law and it was unfair for anyone on that world to judge him when he’d been brought specifically to fight in a whole new war while being told to forget about the one that killed him. It seemed like things would only keep going nowhere too so since he’d already been dragged into things more than he’d hoped, Ben decided to add a different fuel to the fire.

“Hey Killi, sorry to speak up like this but am I right to say all of this boils down to whether or not a third tier can get away with murder?”

“A simplification but yes.”

“Okay, cool,” He nodded before pointing at Rook. “When I arrived here yesterday, Rook attempted to murder me by teleporting me way up into the sky and leaving me to fall.”

All at once the arguments at the table stopped, the room falling silent enough they’d be able to hear a pin fall while Killi in particular pinched her brow before speaking in strained words.

“Rook, explain yourself this instant.”

“Hmm, me? What’s there to explain? Are you really going to trust this kid?”

“Over you? Any day, yes. I feel confident that’s something any one of us could agree on. Now, since that means you absolutely did it, you explain yourself right this fucking instant.”

“Or what?” He grinned. “Gonna kill me?”

“If you think I haven’t put any of my vast knowledge towards figuring out the numerous ways of dealing with an immortal then you’re sorely mistaken. Now explain, lest I prove myself to you.”

 “What’s the big deal, he’s just being dramatic. Who dies from a bit of a fall? And in case you’ve forgotten, we’re fucking gods. I wanted to so I did, it’s as simple as that.”

“In case you’ve forgotten, we’re still mortal, as flesh as any other with any future of divinity as uncertain as the fate of the world. You do not just get to kill people. Now, why did you want to murder Ben?”

“He was asking me to dinner,” Thera chimed in, not looking at the man. “Although he didn’t get very far into asking.”

It seemed like the room heaved a collective groan when she said it, with Killi’s mood changing from anger to disgust.

“Ah, so you flagrantly ignored the law to once more be rejected by a girl centuries your junior. Pathetic. I count my blessings you’ll never ascend.”

“Fuck you, I’m actually free at least. You can have your little meetings and debates and whatever the fuck else you want but in the end it’s the ones like me and Regnal who actually know what’s up. Being a god is about using the power you have and not being bound by whatever stupid feelings mortals have on the topic.”

“I’d prefer not to be compared to you,” Regnal cut in. “Our reasoning is as different as night and day.”

“Both in the sky. Screw all of you anyway, what do you hope to accomplish here? Yeah, you know what, I do what I want and if I want to find a lady who’s going to still be attractive in a couple centuries to have some fun with before she loses her looks then that’s up to me and how I get it is up to me too, if it means getting rid of some brat in the way then that’s my business.”

Huh, I wonder how many levels of his… I would assume immortality probably sprouted from something like healing enhancement so I’m going with that. Either way, how many levels did he get from people beating this shit out of him? A personality like that, I’m not betting on it being a recent development. Although centuries is the sort of span a person could use to change.

He felt strangely indifferent to hearing that someone was trying to murder him to make a pass at his girlfriend, he’d already had a person try and fight him for her before along with some of their pre-dating dealings with Ather and Roan, with the only thing really popping into his head being the question of if he was ever going to get a taste of it from the other perspective.

Would it be fun to have some psycho decide they want me badly enough to attack Thera for a change? Mmh, no, pretty sure I’d hate that. It would be easier to solve though considering she could probably squash anyone else like a bug, no clue how the hell I’m supposed to deal with this asshole if he isn’t giving up and can teleport, gonna have to spend some brain power on that or just steal whatever ideas Killi has on the topic.

“So then what are you going to do?” Rook asked as he looked around. “You think I haven’t been through this song and dance before? The answer is a big, fat, nothing, now more than ever. You think you’re going to punish us now especially when there’s still another wave coming? Keep dreaming and stop wasting our time. Now if that’s not going anywhere, what do you say we move on already?”

Killi looked ready to snap but it was the divine chef who spoke first, sounding resigned to it all. “He’s right. As awful as a bastard as he is, what are we going to do about either of them? I move that we put an end to this for the day and reconvene tomorrow as planned and put the issue of the both of them on hold until the end of the third wave. If we live we can figure out how Regnal should be punished then and how we should deal with the other idiot. All in favour?”

A round of ayes went up once more, with enough of the group looking done with things that they were happy to stop there and push the matter to the distant and uncertain future, letting things end in the hopes the air would clear by the next day.


Comments

Ben just needs to tell them what happened to the last "super important and powerful" fool that tried this whole stick. I bet Rook isn't stoked on visiting a certain Demigod. Maybe add a bit of rocket fuel by mentioning he already executed a bunch of unruly gods without batting an eye. Oh, and all of us already know that "absolute defense" worn by a lowly t3 fool means nothing compared to the level of raw destruction Ben can casually dish out on an ill intended whim. I mean dudes a menace to the actually ascended gods.

Michigo

Memnun, don't shoot in your own foot. Don't speak ill of Brazil. We are everywhere!

CataFlan

Sounds like a good setup to bring sacrilege to the 3rd tier.

Zadumu

Rook being a 3rd tier might actually be somewhat to his detriment here. It makes him inherently divine, even if he hasn't ascended yet, and King of Sacrilege lets Ben attack divine beings in ways he normally could not.

Alice_Because

Two unrepentant murderers will kinda kill the vibe

Silverias

JC.Angel he would have to bypass the absolute defense to get the foreign matter into his stomach in order for it to overwhelm his absolute defense. A little redundant. Chris, he would need to be able to bypass the absolute defense in order to stab him and suck out his soul with the soul prison knife. I am confident it will happen, but these don't seem like options.

Carl Mason

The god slaying dagger he used on the forbidden gods

Chris

This meeting lasted a whole 15 min before they broke for the day. And here I thought I hated meetings.

Chris

A lot of gods don't like Ben

Alex

Its Ben, he'll figure it out :D

Alex

neither conect or soul mages could see his stats, only verbum skill because it comes directly from the system, and the absolute defence seems to be everything, mind, soul and physical, I still think if you hit him hard enough it should work but it would be something harder that whatever any T3 can currently do, Maybe if Ben materializes a bunch otherworldly matter inside his stomach, doubt absolute defence stops that.

JC.Angel

Depends on the specific origin and combination of skills involved in the Awakening I think, and exactly how Absolute that Absolute Defense skill is. Considering his implied age, if his Immortality has any amount of adaptability to it then Space Asshole could be legitimately able to recover from anything and everything, from Soul Effects to disintegration. My gut says that his Soul is a vulnerability though, just based off of the likely routes of Growth that Ben will need to take to kill the Demon God.

Thomas Keller

Ben used connect to use the stronger senses of Verbum and the soul mages. Connect can't read Rook's soul because it can't get past his defenses

Corvusamous

I thought that prevented damage to his physical body. I don’t think the mind is the soul. If he can scan someone’s stats without they ok. I can believe he can use “connect” to drag his mind into his mind space.

IdolTrust

can’t get him in mind space due to the absolute defence.

JC.Angel

Ben can’t detect his soul so I am betting connecting isn’t so easy.

Silverias

Even if he is immortal. All Ben has to do is trap him in his mind space and torture he in time dilation until his mind cracks. That should give him a enough levels to complete world killer and maybe get a tittle, “Insane in the Membrane”.

IdolTrust

That's how they may still contribute towards the war effort

Duck_Giblets

The absolute defense is easy to get past, move his soul to a phylactery, and boom, infinite fuel source.

Torbjørn Nilsen

As far as I know, they need their souls to ascend rip it out of him, and trap it in a phylactery. Use it to fuel a spell.

Torbjørn Nilsen

Maybe a quick trip to hell for Rook might do the thing temporarily

Tristan Thibault

Ben still has that soul draining knife. He can also be a stabby bastard at times. Not out of the realm of possibility that he puts rook into a tree next to the other gods.

uthr

He received a title which comes from gods or the system

Corvusamous

If you take the system's estimation of ?Ouan? As the god of everything then every god, besides Myriad, be kinda similar. But yeah Rook be surviving, for now

Corvusamous

“Ben decided to add a different fuel to the fire.” Pretty sure the whole series can be summed up by this one sentence

Ralend

Since the Demon God is a soul God, and skills are directly tied to Souls, you'd really think he would create a team of demons with the immortality skill just for fun

TheLostGolem

he didn’t kill aether nor does killing people gives experience, he got a title because of the gods.

JC.Angel

Im a bit surprised none of them tried to pray to the Gods to ask for their opinions on this. Its very important to the survival of the whole world, Gods included. Also surprised that none of the Gods chimed in when nobody asked their opinion. Maybe next chapter? The Gods have been pretty clear how important Ben is. If they gotta pick to kill Rook or Ben, who is more important to the fate of the world? Rook implied he still intends to kill Ben at a later date.

Emily Gurnavage

Memnun, his space magic is tier one, it is conceivable that he could be teleported somewhere. Especially by what amounts to the god of space magic. Send him to the moon hogtied, and gagged, with a distracting wound in place to prevent immediate counter action.

Carl Mason

Honestly, I want to see Ben learn how to harvest skills off of other people's souls by connecting (forcibly) and then killing and stripping part of the soul while it is loose and unprotected by the body.

Carl Mason

Still, he looks a little lonely.

Carl Mason

given rook has space magic, it's unlikely more space magic can stop him. my bet is on Ben sending him to the Infinite Brazil

Memnun

Yeah, ki d of fits with the style of "immortal death/imprisonment" that always shows up in stories/movies. You know, where the person is drawn and quartered and placed in multiple boxes and buried around the world in different locations. Could go a step further and enchant each box to destroy its contents over time, that way ACTUAL torture is included in the individual's sentence.

Carl Mason

Ben, desperate to try and awaken his sacrilege, turns him into a nice set of impervious armor

Clara

Just jeet him into interstellar space.Let him be immortal there. Or you know, into the sun. If he survives a few billion years stuck in the gravity well of a star, and likely encased in the brown dwarf it'll eventually form, then... Well, problem solved regardless.

Swinter

Soul trap.

Vayash

Honestly ? infinite hells

Samityaou

5: he actually becomes Ben's drinking buddy (...NOT!!!)

Alexander Semino

What's your opinion guys? How is Rook going to be "taken care of" in this arc? 1: Space great spirit's help 2: Ben's effort 3: Something/someone else (perhaps Killi) 4: None, he survives this arc

Cheuk Hin Ho

Ather's dead, Ben received EXP for it a chapter or so after the fight.

Cheuk Hin Ho

Is absolute defense a conscious/activated skill? if so, then surprise attacks. If it's always on the who, or what determines what needs to be defended against with absolute defense? Too much oxygen can become detrimental. Or over-healing to the point of cancerous growth. Or any number of "healing" procedures that actually do something else like adjusting biochemistry. For example, adjusting insulin levels. convince his body that it is a foreign invader and trigger a super enhanced immune response, consuming him from the inside out. Sabotage a portal so he never comes out the other end. Also, from an energy perspective, assuming that in this universe that energy can not be created nor destroyed, only changing of state then even his skill would have to have an upper limit of what it could defend against. Or could it just shrug off a planet destroying amount of antimatter? How would the skill defend against drowning? or being exposed to the vacuum of space?

Scott

I can totally see Ben making the argument - "Hey why don't you let me execute them? There's a decent chance that will allow me to awaken to the Third tier, and who here doesn't value me at the third tier more highly than these two?"

Person8

The funny part would be this. I imagine that a god cannot ascend if there is no soul or the soul is imprisoned. So wouldnt it be a great expirement to kill a fledling god while destroying or capturing the soul? Nothing quite as sacrilegious as denying the ascention to begin with.

Tatsu

kill them, they become gods, kill them again, awaken sacrilege, and make something useful with their body parts.

Scott

I was actually thinking about sacrilege. We know that he can to a limited extent interact with the system thanks to it (like the grant permission to a god and such). So wouldn't the next step be to hijack someone else's status and disable/delete some of their skills? I would see that as the ultimate sacrilege as he would literally be undoing the god's work. (Edit: meaning both the system creator gods as well as the 3rd party user).

Alexander Semino

Rook's theoretical domain as a god would be kinda similar to the demon god

Clara

Quote " Would it be fun to have some psycho decide they want me badly enough to attack Thera for a change? " Did Ben just jinx himself with the creepy hollow eyed Outsider descendant girl?

Alexander Semino

Absolute defense makes that a bit difficult, I don't think any magic magic can even affect him.

TheCrazyDuck

TFC

Rain

At this point its just better to nip the problem in the butt and deal with them. A loose cannon as an ally is worse than not having an ally to begin with. Just as liable to sabotage you as they are to help you. Puts into perspective how very mortal the gods actually are. These are the people they originate from after all. They are in the end mortals with more power than sense and you rely on good people getting to power, which never really worked out all that well. Them being paralysed on the decision also hangs a sign on the wall that might makes right. Just be strong enough and you get away with everything. Time for Ben to put it to the test and awaken sacrilege on mr imortal.

Tatsu

he can just drop him in hell, give aether some company .

JC.Angel

If he was immune to all magic then Thera could not launch him in the sky. More than likely time-chamber would work to trap him.

Luboš Hemala

I wonder if Bens Soul extracting knife could deal with rook, it works on literal gods so I doubt it wouldn't work on someone with something as simple as immortality

Joshua Schneiders

Do you think his immortality entails his soul being a separate being than his body like Ben on that life tower trial or that his body regenerates from even a cell like wolverine type deal. İf it's the latter, I would like Ben to try using antimatter or exotic matter to destroy the body so it can't come back. Trapping him in the earth's core or the infinite hells might also be a way to keep him outside of their influence. Being eternally tortured as a bonus on the side.

SacredSteel

Absolute defense probably makes such traps useless, if it was just immortality sure but with absolute defense in play I dont think that's gonna work

Sammot

Wholdn't immortal be a great source of energy? Like let's make him a living fertilizer or sth like that

roxurio10003

If the people in the world are not worth saving due to being irredeemable dicks that can get away with whatever they want, then what is the point in fighting to save them? It's better to let the demons kill everything. At least their kind don't put up any pretenses of being the good guys. More and more, I'm on the bandwagon of noping the fuck off this world and hoping they all get flavor enhancement. Hanging out with the greys waiting for the heat death of their world, seems far preferable.

Half Life

With that logic in play, why are they gathering all the tier 3 holders in one room? If that collapse holder snapped right now, he might kill at least one of them if not more. Before dying himself, but then he'd just ascend to godhood. That's an enormous risk to take with the world. If Rook desided to go and bash Killi's head in, there's nothing they could even do to quickly stop him. Also hope that next chapter Ben traps Rook in a time chamber or something, he's already getting on my nerves more than Ather.

CherMi

Seems a bit off a let down. Being waved off because they can't be touched seems like a bad idea. Being trapped for perceived eternity in Ben's mind or a device like a archive or the demons gods confinement until they are needed seems like a better use. Also aren't these people aware the gods could be forced to be in human body and killed and harvested for parts. Ben made their bones into broth. Like they have the god killer with them and have no idea...

SacredSteel

Hmmm. Yeah, no, this end result is essentially saying "We're all so important to global survival that any crimes won't be punished until after the Third Wave, if even then" which is *horrible* precedence in general, but hilarious for Ben in specific because with that basically put on the books and with a Soul Mage saying "Ben is More Important Than Any Else Amongst The Summoned Group", that means he'll be able to do whatever he wants and then point at the Murderer and the Immortal Asshole as to why he should be able to get away with this scot free. Time to see just how Immortal that dude actually is!

Thomas Keller

Yeah, that’s pretty much the unavoidable conclusion for basically every version of this debate. The world is facing an existential threat, and in the face of existential threats all measures become morally justifiable. Of course, the flip side to that reasoning is that if someone (*cough*Ben) finds a way to make their deaths a net boon for the world, then their execution is perfectly fine.

Sesharan

It seems Ben has the same thoughts on Rook as I do.

Vorquel

Ah, my morning paper

Daniel Aguirre


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